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My mother in law has early stage dementia and has live-in care provided by my brother-in-law. He knows she's not bathing as she should, but as a son, he's uncomfortable bringing it up or providing assistance, if that's what she needs. We're considering hiring a female aide to come part-time to get her to shower, and also provide some respite for him.


Does anyone have advice on how to address this with her? She is in complete denial of her memory issues; says she's driving, socially active, physically active, but none of that is true.

I think it's probably best not to bring it up, just have the aid , say hey we're gonna take a shower today. No question, no asking, just a simple statement.

Dementia patients, don't remember if they did or didn't shower , when you ask, to not stress them out , it's best to not ask them questions, or explain to her, the need to shower.

That's my opinion and experience anyways.

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Your MIL is dealing with anosognosia, not denial. Denial and anosognosia are distinct concepts. Denial is a psychological defense mechanism where a person refuses to accept a truth, often to avoid unpleasant emotions. Anosognosia, on the other hand, is a neurological condition where a person is unaware of their deficits, even when presented with evidence. 

Your BIL should hire a part time female aide who's got experience showering an elder suffering from dementia. I stress the word experience because it's very important. You need a woman who's got moxy, not a timid little thing who can't handle the job. This aide will also give your BIL respite and get MIL showered 2x a week. He can introduce her as a friend who's coming by to hang out if MIL is opposed to help. My mother insisted there was nothing at all wrong with her, and that SHE could help ME, until the day she died with advanced dementia and in a wheelchair at 95, speaking of anosognosia. But she loved "her girls" in Memory Care and would do whatever they asked her to do.

The shower thing can get tricky bc oftentimes the elder is afraid of something. In Mom's case it was "the slippery shower floor" which wasn't slippery but you don't argue with a broken mind. So we tried this that and the other thing which didn't work until the thought Water Shoes popped into my mind like a gift from God. They worked perfectly. You have to be very creative when dementia is at play. Some are afraid of mirrors and a towel must be put up over them. "Strangers" are in mirrors bc they don't recognize themselves sometimes.

Wishing you the best of luck with all of this.
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How I figured it out with MIL. Wait till she has to go to rr. Sit on stool. Finish. Take off clothes. Say nothing. Have Shower chair previously prepared with towels and all at the ready. Have her stand up and pivot and sit on shower bench with plastic on it so I can pick up feet and pivot into shower floor. I get in (tight but works) turn on shower and we do it. After I am wet but we are clean!!! Then I put in robe, wheelchair and file her toenails, lather her body with lotion, massage her shoulders and back and then dress. She feels so good at the time though 5 min. later it is all forgotten. The less said the better. The receptive communication center of the brain so the more you talk to them the more confused they become. I used to think it was better to talk about things ahead of time and prepare them but it is all forgotten in a minute and does nothing but build up negative feelings caused by confusion. We are getting close to where she can barely support herself standing with walker so on bad days I wash under her diaper with warm soapy water when on toilet. The rest of her can be done that way too…just throw some thick towels on the floor. And every time you change diaper, use disposable wash clothes to wipe her down from front to back then apply barrier cream with zinc. It is a labor of love.
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Tandemfun4us Jun 29, 2025
This is exactly how we do it. The room is warm and I sing a familiar hymn. Mom usually doesn’t resist when I promise I will be very quick and we have to because she had an “accident”. My mom doesn’t like to be dirty.
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Your brother, if he wishes to continue caregiving, is going to have to read or get classes on how to just sort of walk people through these things very matter of factly. He should watch how the aid handles things and learn from the aid how to do this. But that hiring one on to walk an elder through this, and to learn how to do so, is such a good idea. It is best just to matter of factly say "I have the shower running and all warm and your new clothes are here on the bed. Let's get this done so we can go have a walk (lunch? whatever works)" and just kind of move through while talking. It is a skill learned like any other and will take some time, but well worth getting doc involved to suggest where he may attend a class with an OT (occupational therapist) to learn some "tricks". There are many books out there on caregiving as well and youtube is FULL of things on short video.

Good luck.
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My experience: My mama I just said "Let's get ready for a shower" no resistance.
My daddy-I had an aid come in A because my daddy was 6'2" and 250LBS and willful! But also, I am a female, his daughter and I felt that he needed that privacy. My brothers were not able to assist at that time. After I had him in a facility then the aids at the facility would just go in and he had no resistance to a shower.
I think because they approached it as -- ok this is what we are doing now no asking if they want it.
I also have a neighbor who has ALZ and I assist her caregiver with bathing and other chores. When its bathing time her caregiver gets everything ready and uses the words "let"s" or "time to do A, B, C".
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I second hiring a female aide.

My mom didn't bathe for months before we brought in caregivers. Even then we didn't know how to proceed. As her daughter she refused my help.

But the caregivers get the job done. Perhaps when interviewing, you could express your concerns, and hire someone who has experience in dementia patients who don't wish to bathe.
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I was a hoomecare CNA for 25 years before going into business. This is how you address the hygiene issue with your mother.

Hire a CNA/caregiver. Then tell your mother that because she refuses to bathe, shower, or wash-up her doctor is sending a nurse to come and do this with her. If she refuses, the doctor will have her admitted to the hospital and she will be moved to a nursing home from there.

Before the homecare CNA arrives, make sure they know to refer to themselves as 'the nurse sent by Dr. (your mother's doctor's name) to give her a shower and do skincare'. If the CNA is wearing scrubs and looks official, you should be okay.

Also, your brother-in-law is NOT providing live-in care if hecan't even bring up the issue of hygiene and washing in discussion with his mother. He needs to get over himself and his nonsense.

Never has a woman been given a free pass on the gross parts of caregiving due to their sex. The same should damn well apply to men as well.
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BlueDew Jul 2, 2025
You seem to really love your job.
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Wow. I'm sure your system works very well for your agency. Flat rate paid by family that would cover up to 2 hours of hygiene care for their loved one.
Not having the CNA coax or argue the patient into anything. Leaving when done if under 2 hours. If patient refuses hygiene care, as you said "that's it". But I'm sure the flat fee is still paid for their time there.

I absolutely know what I'm talking about when it comes to my husband's care. And that's what matters to me. He is bed-bound with Parkinson's Disease. His body is stiff and painful, even with appropriate medication. He has some cognitive issues. But he is a human being who is very loved by family. His aid is able to give him gentle care and still get his hygiene completed in under 2 hours.

Burnt, this is all I will say about this because you always want to be right and have the last word. So complain all you want, and throw in my face your 25 years of experience. I don't care.
I'd rather have 1 caregiver who possibly had less experience but who understands my husband is my loved one and that he needs to still be treated with respect and dignity. People who hire aids for their loved ones know it's through a business who needs to make $$$. But if the family could perform these tasks for their loved ones, with the care and dignity deserved, they would. Sometimes the family member is no longer the person who can best coax the patient into tasks they don't like. I wish I was still physically capable of doing my husband's hygiene tasks. I wish he would allow me to do them the way he allows our hired caregiver. But that's not the case. I thank God his caregiver is kind and gentle and will coax when needed. I just thank God for it.
"There but for the grace of God go I".
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Dear MiaMoore,
I understand the issues you present with tub baths. And yes, showers or bed baths may be safer for a patient. My husband has bed baths because he is bed-bound. But I have purchased body wash that lathers well and has a mild fragrance that is soothing to him without negatively affecting his skin.
I don't expect it to be a spa experience, but if the experience can be gentle and caring in any way, that's what I hope for.
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MiaMoor Jul 2, 2025
I've never known carers and nurses to be anything but gentle, although they also need to be firm for their client's/patient's safety. (I'm including my mum and my aunts in this assessment, as well as those who looked after my mum and other family members.) I'm sorry if you've had any negative experiences.
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Are you asking how to address this with MIL? You mean to get her to agree?
I don't think it matters. Hire an aide to come weekly to help with bathing.

You've been considering this, so you already know that it is the next step. Just do it. Add some caregiving hours for respite. It would be great for the live in brother-in-law to get a break.

And, don't bother trying to re-connect her to reality that she no longer understands.
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