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And... All ALS are not the same. Some have different licenses, and limits on the care that they can provide. Check Medicare.gov for reviews.
What is covered in monthly fees? - like depends, vitamins, soap, shampoo, skin lotion - if you buy then how do they make sure that only your loved one uses them - these extras can add up
What are the recreation facilities or physio or dietians? - these things keep up a resident's abilities to a maximum that they can do - even bingo has a person organizing their thoughts & matching numbers & letters
Look at a place with open eyes - I saw 1 place that had a special tub room with a tv for the more reluctant bathers - another called the tub room 'the spa' which seems so much gentile - it is just things like that which makes a difference in the long run
My mom had issues that are common among alot of elderly - a spine the shape of a "S", she was currently recovering from a broken pelvis from a fall (using walker), issues with blood pressure (potential future falls) and dementia (only short term memory) and no appetite, so would skip all meals if something wasn't in place to make sure she would eat (many meds result in no appetite), and my mom had advanced macular degeneration (eye disease - she was close to legally blind).
I would look for functionality - the place my sis picked was beautiful and decorated - but it had an open stairwell, the floor changed often (cant see & walker - meant potential fall at each change/bump of the floor) and much of the floor was stone/hard for falls. The living area had lovely furniture - but none of it functional as in sturdy (vs sink into) and good arms on the seating to assist with standing - which is all needed if there is any issues with back/spine.
Healthy Meals - are also important - low salt, fresh fruits & veggies...the place we visited did the meals like a restaurant, but the options were things like burger & fries, chicken fingers & French fries - there really wasn't any healthy items on the menu. Diet is very important for everyone(my mom liked all food so was easy to have her eating healthy).
So #1 - don't trust a sales person :)
Look for functionality and health over beauty.
And moving is going to be hard on them - so pick a place that will be able to accommodate any future health issues that may arise after she moves in.
My mom never wanted to go to a facility - siblings wanted her to go, but I stood by my mom's decision. We hired a social worker who specialized in the elderly and would be the voice for my mom. She thought with my mom's issues (and explained how it is important to determine what is hearing, vision or memory issues), she would be better staying in her home and having in home care. It pissed off the siblings, even though the social worker idea and the one we used was my sis recommendation....But the social worker was a godsend to me - as I became my mom's primary caregiver at home and had someone to help with decisions....so maybe find a social worker to help as well - they can evaluate your mom's needs and make recommendations for a facility/inhome care resources/elder attorney.....etc...as that is what they do for a living. Good Luck!
Does the home have a Family Council? Not simply a resident council but scheduled time for families to meet with managers, nurses, and representatives of the care staff. If there is a FC, you can bring your group concerns to management, and this will have more weight.
What percentage of monthly income is spent on food? I was shocked to learn that where my family member lives only five percent of the monthly income was spent on food--and food was a huge sore point with these residents, lots of dissatisfaction.
How many staff are on duty for each shift? This may vary depending on resident census. Not the best staffing plicy but the one used by most homes, alas. The home will tell you that they follow state guidlines and this is probably true. It's just not enough to ensure good, attentive care,especially in memory support homes.
able to take own meds. (Medication administration was an extra $600), but when he started falling a lot at night and couldn’t take own medications the cost went way up and it was less expensive to move him to a
residential care facility where he could get closer attention. But he had a good 1.5 years in the assisted living facility.
I’d say don’t go by the price quoted over the phone. Brookdale has monthly specials the don’t tell you about until you are serious. My dad got $1000 off per
month forever.
Best wishes!
Hope some of this helps, but mostly I hope you find a place and staff where it will put you at peace as much as possible.
And if she runs out of money do they accept Medicaid? Do they have Medicaid beds available? How long must she private pay before Medicaid would kick in?
Medicaid is usually only available in nursing homes, in most states. If she needs a nursing home in the future will you have to move her again?
What are their policies on evicting a resident? Yes, it happens more often than we all know. My mom, in memory care, became a danger to herself and others and was kicked out. She was on hospice at that time. Hospice recommended a smaller care home where all residents had been kicked out of their previous facilities. Yes, it happens. And it was cheaper!
The smaller facility was much better suited to my mom. It was her last residence as she passed after being there about five months. They also allowed hospice to come in for the residents there. Another important consideration in choosing a facility is if hospice is allowed. Not all do.
You may want to call a well reputed hospice to ask about their recommendations for a facility.
Thank you for taking the time to write.
We had my 92 yr old mom in an assisted care place (which was all-inclusive price per month- no add on prices) and she loved it there - but now she needs memory care and government aid. The AL place that she was at did not take any Medicaid or Medicaid Waiver ( except VA benefits) ... while a 'sister' facility of the same ownership a few miles away DID take gov. aid. (Just as resort-like.)
Would have been nice to know that from the get-go, and had mom at the other place to start with. There was a minimum requirement of 1 year stay at full monthly rate before they accepted gov. aid.
Assisted care places are wonderful - BUT if there are any "forgetfulness" issues or transferring (w/c to bed, for example) issues beginning... those places are only 'assisted'... and are not licenced or staffed like a memory care or nursing home would be. Don't expect the AC to "babysit"/ look after closely your loved one. Showers can be refused. They can stay in bed all day watching TV if they so choose to ( certain behavioral stipulations apply in the contract for safety, of course)... but it is like having your own apartment ... with a bit of help.
Watch out for huge entrance fees (sometimes they pool those fees in a general benevolence fund for others who need it) or proof that one can pay full rent for more than one year (One place I called had a three year full rent requirement... for more wealthier people, I guess...)
Mom's AL place had a $2,000 deposit and first month's rent. That was it. (Compare to $15,000 entrance fees out there...)
She had a beautiful up to date studio that was huge - with a front living room, kitchenette, bathroom with shower and a back bedroom. Everything was included. No added "levels of care". (A bargain if loved one needs more ADL assistance)
Call around. Visit LOTS of places. Waiting lists can cost thousands to be on (refundable only if you don't move in there) ... but some places (just as nice) have openings (immediate or in a few months) without any waiting list fees.
Everyone will be on their best behavior when you take a facility tour; but check out room sizes... individual room thermostats? ...hallway sizes (roomy and light filled?)... how new... how dated... what kinds of activities do they offer besides bingo... do they offer free alternate menu offerings, do they charge extra to eat meals in room or not? (all- inclusive places top everything in my opinion...) etc...
What is nice is a month-to month rental with a 30 day notice of vacating/ moving. No binding contract, which is great as things can (and do) change quickly over a few months for loved ones.
• Go for a visit without your LO. Describe to the salesperson exactly what your LO can and cannot do for themselves. Be very forthcoming, don't sugarcoat anything.
• On the tour: check out the finishes and furnishings, do they look reasonably well kept up? Does the staff look engaged with the residents? Do residents look like they are engaged with each other?
• Ask what level of care they will handle. Can you LO age in place there? Some ALs only handle very basic ADLs. Can your LO get PT, imaging, blood work, podiatry visits...in-house? The more that can be handled there, the fewer visits to doctors offices.
• If it's a concern, ask what happens when your LO runs out of money.
• Ask to visit with your LO and have lunch in the dining room (maybe even with a resident) or come to a happy hour or other activity. If they refuse this, it's a red flag and they better have a very good reason why you can't.
• Get them to assess your mom. They should offer to send their nurse to do it wherever your mom is and should be able to get it done within a couple of days, often same day. The assessment will tell you exactly how much her care will cost. If you're looking at multiple ALs, have each one do an assessment, don't assume they will all assess the same.
• Once you've made a decision and are ready to reserve an apartment, it can't hurt to ask if there are any special offers (reduction in community fee, reduced rent for x months, etc).
Make sure both are good or it will be miserable.
If your loved one can still walk and speak up for her/himself, that's even better.
Once that's not available, assisting living facilities becomes more challenging [from my experience].
All the best to you and your family!!
The facility used a point system and as dad’s dementia advanced and health declined his cost did increase.
I could talk with staff about dad’s care any time of dad and would be notified about their concerns. Always doing staff training and they have now built another facility next door as they have established an excellent reputation for care.
See if you can take with other people who have family members at the places you are looking at they will have the best information.
What is a CBRF community? I'm not familiar. (I'll try to look it up.) Do you mind telling me which state you live in.
We live in Paradise Valley, Arizona - next to Phoenix. There doesn't seem to be a good solution. I've looked at both larger facilities and group homes. The patient to caregiver ratio is not good. The best is 2 caregivers to ten patients daytime / and / 1 caregiver to ten patients at night. My 74 year old husband has Progressive Supra Nuclear Palsy (similar to Parkinson's-stage 4), dementia and is clinically blind (all from agent orange - Viet Nam). All other health is excellent, so he could live for a number of years. His family have all live to their 90's and 100's. I need a backup plan for him - should something happen to me. Currently I have a little part-time help - so I can go grocery shopping, doctor's appointments for me, etc. In home care - for our area is approximately $15,000 a month for 18 hour care. We can do that for a while, but not forever.
Thanks for your answer it was helpful. Any other comments / suggestions are welcome.
There is a "buy-in"( about double the monthly fee). The medication may or may not be included in the monthly fee. Just a reminder your parent's current medical plan may or may not pay for it. So, get ready for a sticker price shock. Most assisted living centers get their medication from a specialty local pharmacy with one outlet that doesn't deal with generics that is open from 9-5 Monday through Friday.
Research! You want to be certain our loved one is well cared for. Part of this peace of mind comes from understanding the rights of assisted living residents and the obligations of the assisted living community. But this task is made more challenging because assisted living communities are not regulated nationally like nursing homes. Instead, each state has its own laws, regulations and licensing standards for assisted living communities. I suggest that you familiarize yourself with your rights and the legal obligations of assisted living communities where you live.
Look for amenities that you know are important to your loved one. Read the reviews to find out what other residents think of the community. If possible, go together to visit the community that looks like a good fit, so you can get a feel for the place and weigh in with what your loved one thinks of it before a final decision is made. From my experience, you most likely will not be able to find a AL community that’s perfect in every way and one they will love right away, but you should be able to find one that provides features your loved one needs to be happy.
There are many sites that offer great information.
· U.S. Department of Health & Human Services
· Elder Care services in your state
· AARP
Good luck.
Sometime economics or other care factors have to take priority in selecting a home, but when deciding between acceptable choices, considering these other factors can make our LO'a transition and acceptance of their new home easier.
From what I have seen, Assisted Living offers a private studio apartment for their residents. I use to joke with my Dad about his "dorm room". Dad needed help with showering, sometimes with using the toilet, and taking his medicine. The Aides would check on him a few times during the day. He did wear a medical alert in case he fell. He was mobile using his rolling walker.
My Mom was living in a nursing home. Mom had forgot how to walk or even stand. Yet she would constantly try to get out of bed or out of a wheelchair. Mom needed help being fed, and everything one would do for a child. She could no longer understand a request. She thought she was on vacation and staying at a hotel. She thought my Dad was her brother. Her condition would have been to overwhelming for Assisted Living.