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Speak to your Dr. Your Dr can refer you to either a neurologist or neuropsychologist who can do testing for mild cognitive impairment and dementia.

I’ve heard that dementia can run in families. However, I was just speaking to someone who is also a caregiver and we both said how many times we feel we are getting dementia. Stress alone can give you forgetfulness. Dealing with dementia constantly makes you are hyper aware. I also heard menopause can give some women brain fog.

If you are seriously worried ask your Dr for testing referral. I bet you have nothing to worry about. Your are stressed and menopausal.
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I believe that you are suffering from extreme stress and not dementia, but you need to see your doctor and explain to him/her what your symptoms are. Extreme stress can cause a plethora of medical problems. I do not have dementia, but I have also had the same experience that you are describing when I was in my 50s and 60s. When I mixed up my words it’s only when I’m extremely stressed. I have even mixed up my children’s name, calling one the other one’s name, but it’s only when I am extremely stressed.
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A few years ago when I was working at our office downtown -- on 2 seperate occasions -- I came back out to my car at the end of the day only to discover I had left it running with the key in it the whole time -- for 8 hours. I did that twice. Totally freaked me out. It was during a time of mental stress and it hasn't happened again since.

After the birth of one of my sons I was having a great deal of difficulty finding words when in conversation (which also freaked me out since writing is a main part of my job). That too cleared up and can be characteristic of hormonal changes (it also happened as I entered menopause). I do occasionally put an item in a completely weird place (usually as I'm flying about the kitchen trying to cook dinner) and do something else at the same time (or someone is trying to talk to me while I'm engaged in another activity). I think my multi-tasking skills are are slowly ebbing.
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VVinAshland Jul 2022
Thank you for adding this note, Geaton. I appreciated your stories and could relate to what you wrote. I appreciate you.
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You can get a free copy of the SLUMS test online. I think this link will work. But someone else has to administer it to you.
https://health.mo.gov/seniors/hcbs/hcbsmanual/pdf/4.00appendix8slumsform.pdf
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Cappuccino42 Jul 2022
Lol I read that and forgot the 5 items straight away and the story
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No. The fact that you catch and correct is not dementia. A person with dementia has no idea they just missed a word. Sounds like menopause and /or stress.
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VVinAshland Jul 2022
Thank you, Ella!
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I’m 40 and currently a burntout caregiver to Mum with dementia. I’m also experiencing grief for brother lost in 2019, brother lost recently and slowly losing Mum. I’m also under huge amount of stress with my workplace not being very understanding and putting me through the wringer. I’ve had to sought to fight with the little energy I have. I’m averaging 4-5h sleep.

I can honestly say that I personally feel like I’ve got dementia too due to all the above stressers. I keep losing my train of thought, I’m slow learning new stuff because I forget (I’m relying on physical notes) and i took my mum to her dr appointment on the wrong day and I’ve started making mistakes with writing. As in I think I’ve wrote a certain sentence and then I’ll read it again later and notice mistakes or whole words missing.

I feel like it’s stress and lack of rest ,... well I hope so!!!
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VVinAshland Jul 2022
Dear Cappuccino. I'm so very sorry to read about the loss of your brother and the gradual loss of your mom. I can't imagine what you're going through. I'm also sorry that your workplace isn't more understanding. What a difficult season.

Thank you for taking a moment to send a note despite your own challenges. I really appreciate it. What you shared is helpful.

God bless your good, hard work.
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First of all … consider stress.

second … consider physical problems

Third consider mental problems

fourth see a doctor

certainly it’s possible you have the possibility of dementia but dont freak out and think thats what youre feeling.

there are several physical conditions that can cause brain fog and those are aggravated by body chemistry imbalance or can cause problems even without stress … like your thyroid.

you can ask your doc about an ultrasound for thyroid since that problem wont always show up when they feel your throat at an appointment.

anyway … there are non-addictive anxiety meds that may help with stress. Try to start out on the low end and then get stronger meds if necessary.

check those out with a doc. It’s natural too think about dementia right away but there may be other controllable factors instead that youre not aware of.
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VVinAshland Jul 2022
Thank you, Betsysue. This is kind and helpful.
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I loved ... !
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Wow. I have the exact same question.
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Hello, it’s good that you’re aware of the issue and it’s concerning as well but, don’t stress yourself over it or try not too.
Talk with your doctors about it and trusted family and friends. Take a shot at “ not claiming “ this. We know some things are genetic and others can be stress or fear( I believe the combination of those things are not healthy for the mind, body and soul).
Write a journal, jot down what you’re experiencing. Personally, I say, if you can’t fix it/ change it.. then make
peace with it… the struggle begins when you fight between the two. This is how I view the Serenity Prayer.
If you’re a spiritual person” have faith and trust the process. Our Creator will send all that you need and just when you need it!
Sending you positive vibes💕
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VV, I have to say, if this is dementia, I have been suffering from it for 3 decades.

First thing I would caution about, stress causes funny things to happen with our brains, so worrying about it can exacerbate the problems.

Hormones play a huge roll in our overall well-being.

You are dealing with a double whammy.

Get your annual physical and speak with your doctor about everything you are dealing with. They should be able to reassure you about your health.

Don't forget to take care of you while helping mom and dad. If you are ill, you help nobody.

By the way, my friends have teased me since my early 20s that I have Oldtymers vs Alzheimer's. My brain moves at a different speed then my thoughts or speech, loses things, oh well, could be worse ;-)
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I’m 58 and dyslexic, left handed and wrote backwards initially . I’m always getting words transposed and mispronounced, and I’ve always been a bit clumsy when I don’t take enough breaks.

Sometimes we’ve always been a certain way, not always to do with old age.
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It is stress, often with caregiving and multitasking forget things. Try learning new things and see how you remember them. I am trying Spanish and surprise! I remember one day next, nada.
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There is such a thing a minority experience early onset dementia at a younger age so it’s something you should discuss w your doctor, most likely it’s stress and hormone changes of menopause but I would address it w your doctor to be sure
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I hope you talk with your doctor and mention any other unusual symptoms you may have, even if you think they are insignificant. Let the doc make the determination of whether it is stress or something else. I was having some concerning issues (including word retrieval issues, short term memory loss, vertigo, etc.) and finally went to see my doctor who thought a brain MRI was in order. I have multiple lesions in my brain and biparietal atrophy. I am seeing a neuro in early August. Like everyone else, stress would have been my first thought with your symptoms. But your doctor is the best one to determine that. All the best to you!!!
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Good answers but I have noticed if you don’t use it you loose it. I have found if I keep my brain active. Remembering things. Solving problems. Doing complicated math in my head I do not forget as much.
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ConnieCaretaker Jul 2022
Luminosity is a great daily challenge..........it offers assurances when there is a concern.
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Make an appointment with a Neurologist and ask to be tested. Once you know, for sure, you can plan accordingly, because this forum has enlightened all of us about the disease and the people who care for them: it's quite an education.
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Have you had a break or vacation since you became a caregiver for your mom? Sometimes stress can do strange things to your mind. Are you taking any new medications? Definitely consult with a doctor if it is worrying you. But also take care of yourself, and make sure that you and your father have a plan for your mother's care in case you are not able to help out as much. All the best to you and your family.
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VV, I think it's likely to be menopause-related. I am in my 50s as well and am experiencing similar difficulties. Remembering things, coming up with the right words, and just taking care of everyday things. Even writing this response is more difficult than it used to be! My brain feels a bit foggy! On the other hand, dementia runs strong in both sides of my family, and I have watched my mom's condition develop over the years, and I am certainly on the lookout for symptoms while trying to eat and live healthier. I do question sometimes whether I could be developing early symptoms, but in my heart, I really think I'm just suffering from menopausal symptoms and burnout from caregiving. I find that when I've been around my mom for long, I actually start acting and thinking more like her. Sure, it helps me to empathize, but it really means I need a break! ...One more thing to consider is sleep. If you're not sleeping well, which happens so often with menopause, it will definitely cause mental deficit. If that is the case, you could try melatonin or an herbal menopause supplement or consult your physician for help. I take an herbal supplement, Swansons Menopause Essentials, that helps me tremendously with all aspects of menopause. There are bioidentical hormones, etc, that can be prescribed.
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Cdriver Jul 2022
This is me as well. 53 and full-blown menopause, complete with hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, and brain fog. But I am also super burnt out in caregiving, and being in the sandwich generation and still raising a teenager, so I attribute my occasional loss of a word to all that plus menopause. My husband blames my Diet Coke addiction! 😏
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Hi Caregiver,
You're preforming like a professional juggler, and there are a couple of silly clowns on the sidelines that will throw you extra balls, a bottle of pop, a shoe, and a pineapple into the mix every so often, and it's all jolting. Caregiving is difficult enough for young parents for their babies and kids, but for a pretty much lone adult it is taxing on your brain more than you realize. So, you must schedule breaks when you can. Hire an aid if you must to help your dad while and go away for a weekend, or sometimes just for a one night sleepover trip here and there. Hiring once in a while is good practice anyway for the future.

Forgetting a word can be an indication. Do you remember :D, if your mom started that way? Menopause could be a problem. I only had 3 heat flashes before I happened to mention it to my chiropractor. Telling me to buy the best quality, for ladies over 50, vitamins completely helped. That was 25 years ago. Holy mackerel.

Do you write? Do you socialize? Talk to people much? That's what had me loose my ablitiy to remember words after all these 20 years of caregiving parents and now my husband, until I ramped up writing, attending events and talking to people, rather than just cleaning, cooking, chauffeuring, and scheduling. I also started to sing. I never sang until I was 69. I found that although I knew melodies I remembered few words to a song so I printed out the lyrics, and baby, I just don't care what I sound like, move over Ethel Merman.

Don't skip over words when you read. Look them up and look them up again.

If you are becoming forgetful, get clever, keep a steno pad near the phone, (and a hard copy calendar around). When a friend calls, and half way in the conversation she mentions that she thinks her little toe is getting arthritic write that down - Becky. Right toe, Hurts, and the next time you talk, casually check your pad, ask how her toe is doing. Keep a pad by your bed too. Having such a back up plan allows you to relax and will often result in your not needing to refer to the pad only because you not so anxious about forgetting. You become your own reliable backup plan.

Go for Memory Screening if you'd like, but no matter what, go swimming or do something rhythmic. Schedule fun for yourself to be at your best for your family, but mostly for you.

Be a bum once in a while. It's very salubrious.
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Beatty Jul 2022
"Be a bum once in a while"

LOL 🤣🤣

I forced myself to dress today (1st day off for a while). Into casual wear (comfy elastic waist pants, loose tee, long cardi), no hairstyle, no makeup. In fact this is so VERY similar to my to my PJ evening look. Ha ha.

I want a teeshirt that says Bum-Mum.
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Doctors don't practice medicine over the phone without first meeting the patient and getting a full medical history. They don't do this because it is too easy to misdiagnose. You could easily be led down the wrong path on this forum because the vast majority of responses you receive will be conjecture. Your best bet for an answer is to visit your doctor.
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I was going to ask this question too! I'm so glad to see so many of you experiencing this too. I'm 53 menopausal , helping take care of my 76 year old mom who has parkinsons with dementia.

I have a 14 year old with some minor limitations from being a pediatric stroke survivor and a 20 year old at home. I feel very overwhelmed, work part time, am in excellent shape one of my jobs is a fitness instructor/health and wellness coach. I know all the right things to do but I did tell my psychiatrist. He said it could be due to some ADHD traits we increased my medication for depression/focus. I got a blood test showed my vitamin D was low so I started a supplement. I think I would suggest getting a evaluation by a neurologist or psychiatrist and take it from there. Thats my next step since I'm not quite convinced i'm suffering from just stress and ADHD traits.

Wishing you all the best here dealing with this situation.
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I heartily recommend watching Sandra Shamas’s perimenopause bit on YouTube. She hilariously describes the loss of nouns women experience around menopause (I did!) If nothing else, you’ll get a good laugh.
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You are going to want to follow up with your doctor, but it seems to me that you have a bit going on right now.
Being a caregiver is stressful, and stress plays a big role in health issues. I know this first hand. In fact, when I was once in a very stressful environment, I was starting to forget everything. Once I was out of that environment for a while, it was like the veil was lifted off my brain.
Menopause brain fog is real, too. Every woman goes through menopause differently, but this is pretty common. A friend of mine went through that a few years ago. She would reach for words often, forget things, and always mentioned that she had brain fog. She did not and still does not have dementia. I had read that once menopause passes, full abilities resume.
I also read an article in the past from Harvard that said believe it or not, trying to find words for something is more common than we think. If I can find it again, I'll post the link.
I wish you the best!
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LUMOSITY - https://www.lumosity.com/app/v4/dashboard

I misspelled it previously and cannot correct the spelling.
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VVinAshland: Although most likely this is hormonal, perhaps you should schedule a visit with your physician.
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"Menopause brain fog is real"

This came up in a conversation I had just yesterday with a 54yo - 2 other over 50s ladies then joined in!

But for piece of mind, see your Doc.

Stress, fatigue, lack of sleep, vitamin deficiencies, post infection esp Covid.. all these can cause brain fog too.

I just use the general Scottish term 'thingy' to replace whatever word I need 😁
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San42756 Jul 2022
My favorite word is “what-cha-ma-call-it!!! Lol
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Dementia is not the same as Alzheimer’s.

if you get a medical evaluation consider that dementia is not an actual disease, but a “catch-all” description of someone suffering from cognitive impairment caused by something.

When we hear “dementia” it makes us feel like giving up because the decline sounds hopeless, but that is instead when we should kick into high gear - to find a reason and see if the situation can be improved before it gets worse.

A competent doctor should be able to find at least one medically identifiable reason for the decline, rather than just explaining it as an unavoidable expectation associated with old age.

(if a doctor were to say someone is diagnosed with dementia with no further analyses, they should get a new doctor immediately).

Some causes can be treated to entirely reverse or prevent worsening symptoms. Some examples of potential causes are overmedication, stroke, high blood pressure, emotional distress/stress, Parkinson’s, renal disease, heart disease… there are many more …all can cause a patient to present with cognitive decline or impairment.

Even when a patient is elderly and suffering from more than one health problem, cognition can be improved with excellent medical care. Even if this has continued for a while.

Get a complete physical. Review your CBC when the results are available. (Don’t just wait for your doctor to say you “passed”.). Are any of your values more elevated or lower than the normal range? At the outer limits but still within the normal range? Look over your medications. Make sure your doctors conduct tests looking for potential explanations.

(If they only do the “neurological test” where they read you a page long story about Mary and them ask you to recite Mary’s address from the third sentence, and then diagnose you with dementia or Alzheimer’s, find a new doctor and write a Yelp review of that one).

Unfortunately there are a lot of incompetent doctors. Many are eager to prescribe another prescription and shuttle us out of the office, shouting “Next,” with inadequate follow-up. The doctor’s office and the hospital are two of the most dangerous places you can go.

The patient and their family has to take on the responsibility of ensuring adequate medical care through education and advocacy.
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Hope, Calm, Peace, thanks for sharing your input and solutions. I would completely, totally agree that interaction with others and discussions to share opinions is one of the most healthy and valuable methods to address if not solve so many issues that we face today.

Beyond that, it's also good for each of us. I'm reminded of this when I watch nature programs and see various species of monkeys, from small to large, grooming each other.

And when I'm upset I call a friend or relative. After we've discussed the issue, I feel much better, and that works both ways. Friends and family call me when they're upset; we put on our thinking caps and hash out the issues.

(Hope posted on 7-29; her post is on the second page, but in reviewing it, I thought it was well worth bringing to the forefront of the discussion.)
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Pleas see a good neurologist. You don’t really know what’s happening yet.
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