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Is it wrong that I want to enforce boundaries and live my life for me so I don't end up like them? They are overly obese, riddled with health problems, extremely toxic and refuse to accept responsibility. I am 46. I have time to revamp my life to not head down their path. Why do I feel I am not allowed this? My brother took off to another province and is a multimillionaire. I have a chronic pain condition and am on disability.


I guess I am seeking validation or to vent. I feel helpless and that none of my family care about the burden they are placing on me.

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*Return* to the city?

Correct me where wrong, please: you and brother were born and raised in rural Canada. As adults, you children moved away. Brother went his way; you went yours; you came back to live with your parents (why?); he didn't, and has no intention of again getting involved.

I can't see, at first sight anyway, why your brother has any responsibility in this situation, so let's leave him out of it.

Are there any other family members - aunts, uncles, cousins - on the scene? Is your home properly isolated or part of a community? If your parents are contemplating moving with you, what circumstances have they in mind?

If you have the opportunity to move on and reboot your life, you should take it. No arguments there. But if you would like to fill in the gaps and say more about what's happened and what you would like to happen, I hope we'll be able to offer far more in the way of support.
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BreakingFree Jan 2022
I wasn't clear. I apologize.

My parents moved from our local city to a small town upon retirement. I bought a farm about 20min away, 12 years ago. I am selling it and returning to the city. My parents wish to piggyback on my plans and have me purchase a house that suits all of their needs and I live in a basement suite while they take main suite.

My brother agreed to participate in their care as they aged. He was going to financially support, Id be the one here. He doesn't do any of what he agreed to... but apparently me inheriting our parents hoarding filled house is my "reward".

On my mothers side, she only has an older sister, 2 provinces away, who is even more toxic than my mother is.

My dad isn't too bad. But I can't take him without her.

Their home is in a small town and not far from one of dad's brothers and one of his sisters... but neither even visit them.

The issue is my mother.

I was distraught when initially posting and left gaps in the narrative. I am not a weak individual nor unable to establish boundaries... its having them respected that is the challenge. I do not seek to be martyred nor play a victim. I am simply overwhelmed and struggle to see a solution given my circumstances.

By posting, I was hoping for some strategies and I guess permission somehow that the supposed "family values" I had drilled into me are okay to break to save my own sanity and live life.
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Your brother has made his own choices and you’re free to do the same. Don’t accept guilt, taking care of yourself isn’t wrong. It’s on your parents to figure out the help they need and acquire it.
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Just leave.

So what if they "cast you as the villain"?

Call whatever social services organization assists vulnerable seniors and let them know that your parents will be without help as of your move out date.
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Your family can only place the burden on you if you allow them to. And perhaps you feel that you're not allowed to live your life the way you see fit, because you don't believe that you're worthy.
But I'm here to tell you that you are worthy, so get out there and start living and enjoying your life!!!
You are not your parents keeper. They are grown adults and should start acting as such.
Your brother was smart to move away and live his own life. Now it's your turn to do the same. I wish you the very best on your new life journey!
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I'd suggest "returning" to a different city.
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"My brother moved away to another province and is a multimillionaire.

When I lost it on my brother and told him off, he didnt want to hear any of it nor take responsibility."

What kind of responsibility do you expect him to take?

And why do you think YOU have to take responsibility for their lives?

What is their financial situation? Are you their POA? HCPOA?
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Please continue with your plans. A member who often answers on forum has the advice that when you are labeled as the villian your should "embrace it; live it". I think that is sound advice. Let them know when you are leaving. That gives them time to arrange their lives. Let your brother know. Let them know it isn't open to discussion or argument, that you will be leaving. Stay calm and kind and claim the life you have a right to live. If you are the scapegoated victim in this family there is no way but to walk out into the wilderness on your own. Embrace that and make a life. Tell them you love them but you will not sacrifice your life to them. Parents are obligated to raise us. We are NOT obligated to then care for them. We are obligated to make solid worthwhile lives with family of our own, whether blood or friends, and to contribute to the greater whole. I sure wish you luck.
By the way, you feel you are not allowed this because they RAISED you to feel you are not allowed.
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No one is forcing you to take care of your parents and deal with their dysfunction. You *choose* to do it. At 46, you know how to make different choices and what you want to do. It's your life, not theirs and not your brother's.

Your anger at your brother is misplaced. No one forced you to apologize to him and fall on your sword. He has made his choices and you're angry that he has moved on with his life. Yet you want the same freedom he has taken for himself.

You are only as helpless as you allow yourself to be. As long as you choose to accept the burden, nothing will change. It's a new year. It's a great time to prepare to move on with your life.
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rovana Jan 2022
I believe there is a saying: "Freedom is not given, it must be taken." You need not ask anyone's permission. As for family values: I always recommend that when in doubt, you talk to someone who is a sound spiritual adviser, because all too often these "values" are NOT morally sound, they are in fact secular propaganda all too often meant to exploit people. There simply are not issues with should cause you to feel guilty.
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When I saw my in-laws heading for a giant elderly train wreck, the guilt of standing by and watching it was intense for me. My solution was to help them to find/get the help they needed -- enough so that my husband/our family wasn't their solution.

You can be less of a "villain" by assuring them you'll help them in ways you are willing and able. Once you feel satisfied that you've helped as much as you wish, then hopefully your conscience will feel clear. Not that you should feel guilty about any choice you make, but I get it. Been there, done that. May you receive peace in your heart no matter what you choose.
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This will probably be an unpopular response, but here goes. From your profile it seems that you retreated to your parents' home when you needed to be away from the city. You are caring for your parents while in the family home. You now wish to extricate yourself from that situation as you don't wish to be a full-time caregiver (understandable). That's fine. While some say you have no responsibility for them, I disagree, there is some level of responsibility that you should accept as they let you back into their home. So that before you leave, consider setting them up with some sort of services. Are they eligible for a home health aide at least part time? Can food be brought to them by provincial services? Can you discuss a plan for them with your brother that does not involve either one of you directly caring for them while overseeing a long-distance plan of care? Unfortunately, whether we like it or not, responsibilities come with being part of family unit, no matter how dysfunctional.
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BreakingFree Jan 2022
My profile may not have been clear. I live on my own farm. They live in a small town. Separate residences.
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BF, the "values" that you had drilled into you benefit ONLY your parents, not you.

Children are not a retirement plan; their plan seems to involve you becoming their nanny/slave.

Nope. Don't do it.

Sad that your brother reneged on his offer of support, but leaving that aside, there is no earthly reason that you should subject yourself to being at the beck and call of toxic individuals, even if they are your parents.

Simply saying "no, I don't care to do that" is sufficient. If they rattle on about, tell them that you are making your own arrangements and they are free to make theirs. Perhaps give them the phone number of social services. And then either leave or hang up. Don't engage.

You are an adult. You get to decide what you want to do--and what you DON'T want to do.
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You say, "By posting, I was hoping for some strategies and I guess permission somehow that the supposed "family values" I had drilled into me are okay to break to save my own sanity and live life."

Women are always expected to be the caretakers for our parents while the 'menfolk' are often free to do their own thing, as evidenced with your brother. Your profile does seem discombobulated (you live in Beverly Hills CA but own a farm in Canada, etc) so I'm not sure if your mother does suffer from Alzheimers/dementia as you say? If so, before you move away, I'd suggest you get the folks set up with some in-home caregivers coming in to help. Then, you should definitely feel free TO move on with your own life as your parents are young and can live another 2 decades. Let them know that you're happy to arrange help FOR them when they need it, but that you're moving on alone b/c you feel that to the best path for YOU at this time.

I am an only child so the entire burden of having elderly parents is automatically placed on me; there's nobody else to help me with any of it. Consider yourself an only child too and leave your brother out of the picture entirely, unless he tells you he wants to help in some way, financially or otherwise. If you rely on anyone else but yourself to accomplish your goals in life, you ARE 'helpless'. If you rely only on yourself, you're powerful! Do as you see fit w/o relying on anyone to tell you it's 'okay' or it's 'not okay'. As an adult, you have the right to move on with your life now. You're not 'deserting' your parents, you're just taking your OWN life by the horns and running with it.

Wishing you the best of luck moving forward with no guilt and no looking back.
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BreakingFree Jan 2022
It wouldnt accept a Canadian postal code. The only American one I know is 90210. Sorry.
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Sometimes a plan is so preposterous I find myself grinning from ear to ear and chortling helplessly. I know it doesn't look like a kind response but to me it's the one the plan deserves.

So. Your parents' plan is that you now invest in a grand family home where you will care for them with the privilege of being allowed to live in the basement. Really? Sweet of them to think of you.

Nah. If they want to move so that they're not too far away from you, which is not unreasonable, they'd do better to set themselves up in appropriate, adapted living facilities where they will have access to support and services that help them function as an independent unit. Meanwhile, leading your new life, you will perhaps come once again to enjoy spending actual family time with them.

Does the city you have in mind offer retirement communities/facilities that look promising?

Values shmalues. Focus on the practicalities. You don't want them guilting you at an inconvenient distance, and on the other hand if you're not over-burdened with responsibility for their lives you may well find that you want to stay involved. You know what they say about keeping your friends close..?
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Beatty Jan 2022
Yes! I too was goggle-eyed with shock/inappropriate laughter at the suggestion the OP buy parents a home & live in the basement. I pictured the house complete with the old servant bell system.. ding ding, Mother will take her tea now. Then her pillows plumped & her feet massaged..

I also agree, that with good functioning boundaries, a good family relationship may continue.

The ability of the parents to adjust to aging & downsize etc may hinge on who is 'driving'? If Mother (with cognitive decline) is in the driver seat - look out.
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"My parents wish to piggyback on my plans and have me purchase a house that suits all of their needs and I live in a basement suite while they take main suite."

This cracked me up too. Your brother is a multimillionaire and they expect you to buy them a house and you live in the basement.

If Mom is 72 then Dad cannot be much older. He needs to care for her that's what being married means. Children are to grow up and make lives of their own. You don't have to physically care for your parents. You don't have to live with them nor them with you. You can be there for them. Find resources they need. But your life does not revolve around them.

Move back to the city. Make a list of resources in their area. Make sure they have brother's phone#. Remind them they have 2 children and one is a multi-millionaire. If they need any help financially they need to call him.

"My brother agreed to participate in their care as they aged. He was going to financially support, Id be the one here. He doesn't do any of what he agreed to... but apparently me inheriting our parents hoarding filled house is my "reward."

Don't you just love people who plan ur life for you. Move back to the City. Brother can hire people to care for Mom without lifting a finger. He can hire someone to oversee their care.
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BreakingFree; I want you to watch a movie-- "Now, Voyager". If ever there was an instruction manual for "breaking free", this is it.
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The burden is yours, only if you accept it. Set the boundaries and live your life. It’s your life. If others do not approve, so be it.
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Run as far away as you can.... loving parents do NOT expect their children to put their life on hold to care for them. Life goes so quick and before you know it your parents needs will grow and grow. If they are chronically overweight then you will need a hoist to bath them eventually, change them etc. etc.

Tell your brother that you are moving and to help pay towards their help. Tell your parents that you have had enough of caring for them and if they need any help their are agency’s out there that provide good help.

setting boundaries is the most important thing we can do with parents. Expect push back but stick with living your life.
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bundleofjoy Jan 2022
dear cazza and breakingfree,
:)

happy new year 2022!! :) :) :)

"loving parents do NOT expect their children to put their life on hold to care for them"

totally agree.

as for your wealthy brother --- i'm shocked he doesn't help your parents financially. a millionaire. he could easily solve the whole caregiving problem for his parents (for example, hire good in-home care).

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i'm not saying this applies to your brother...
there is a joke:
--how come that wealthy man is so wealthy and stingy with his money?
--that's how he became wealthy, because he's stingy with his money.
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Well, I'd like to say its not the fault of farm life that has made your parents obese, ill of health and toxic. So moving to the city in itself isn't going to change much of that. Set a deadline and move. Your brother being wealth can step up and provide caregivers or relocate them if that's what is ultimately the answer. Obesity is a, to me, a result of bad decisions with no excuses. If one can't take responsibility for at least their health it shouldn't be your place or actually anyone else's place to sacrifice their own health to compensate. Set the deadline, make the plans. Let your brother help with their care expenses if that's possible.
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Your not at fault. Take care of yourself and move. Tell them to ask their other son for help if they need help.
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Your validation is here. Move and move quickly. Before you move, write down a list of reasons that you are moving alone and write down why. "once I move and am away from my parents I might be able to sleep without grinding my teeth due to anxiety". " once I move I won't have to hear constant negative comments about my clothes and how I never seem to dress nicely enough to please my mother". Include everything on this list that your parents are doing and why you are waiting to set boundaries. Keep the list and 6 months after you move look at it again and go over and see if your move helped.
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They need to go to assisted living. Stay strong and stay alone.
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No guilt, no shame, pack those bags and don't call them till your moved.
I have had to do a similar thing with my Sister.
You have to set boundaries because they don't have any.
They lived their lives, made their choices, you have the same option to live your life.
Sometimes it turns into enabling, where they can't function on their own because out of guilt you do everything for them.
Let them know you are a phone call away and go live your life.
My saying is, "Don't let anyone steal your joy"!
You are in the prime of your life, go live it and have some fun, and you will re-identify with yourself and find out who you are and what you are about and what makes you happy.
You do not have to feel guilty for that, validate yourself as worthy, and excited to start your own life with your own choices.
Now go pack your bags! Bon Voyage and Hugs.
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You're too young and too intelligent to be suckered into this.

Since you don't want to live on the farm in longer, sell it - and buy property suited to YOUR needs, not theirs. Do not think about them when you pick your new house/condo. Buy what you want. Do NOT let them force you into a basement of your new house. If it was me, I'd move in the opposite direction of them!

You are too young for this. And, I am speaking as a physically disabled Caregiver.
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Yes, you are seeking validation for wanting to focus on your own life and health, but you do not need that support to do the right thing for yourself. Why do you feel you "can't leave? ". Your parents may try to guilt you into being there for their convenience, but you are an adult and responsible for your own well-being. If you have doubts about your decision, it means you are not sure it is the right thing to do. If you are sure you are doing the right thing, do not let others, even your parents, manipulate you with guilt.
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Without more information it does sound like you're being made a scapegoat; to be made out to be a 'villain' is a power trip meant to guilt you into doing what your parents want; if they are as difficult as you say it is important for you to salvage your life, separate from them. You are 'leaving the nest' and you must toughen your skin to not care what other family says or 'thinks' about you. Enmeshed families, as with addictive relationships, often get into a 'tizzy' when one person begins to get themselves to a healthier place in life. The others then have to deal with their own lives, face their own consequences. Trust yourself, disengage with love. If your folks want to move off the farm, let them, but not with you.
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At 46 you have the right to start anew somewhere else. I read all the details in your profile. You sound like an intelligent, kind person who realizes your time to put yourself first is here. Don't squander it, don't delay it, just do it.
You state you will assist them if needed and that's all you should do. Your parents are young enough to care for themselves at this point. If you don't make your dreams come true, no one else will. I wish you all the best on your journey!
ps: if you want to "appease" them before you go, just tell them you'll let them know how city life is after you've experienced it firsthand - at which time they can decide to move to the city. ( It doesn't mean they move in with you though).
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You can not care for another if your needs - especially healthcare needs - are not being met. Let your parents know that you need time to heal - give yourself at least 1-2 years - before you can even consider other arrangements.
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Please watch 10 tactics to put a narcissist in their place on youtube.

It has blessed me tremendously.
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You answered your own question.....look at what they do and are. Why on earth would you put up with that and do anything for them? Second, you have health problems and now you must take care of yourself first and foremost. You would be bringing more hell into your life than there is now. I am glad you are seeing this. Stand firm - you want to live YOUR life and take care of YOU and that is final. You will help find them someone who can work with them and look after them but YOU are done. Do not fall into their trap to make YOU guilty. You have no reason for that - they are the problem, not you.
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Riley2166 Jan 2022
And many families will NOT "SEE" OR "CARE" because that means that THEY have to step in and do what you do. If this is the case, see the truth of what is and take care of yourself and if worst comes to worst, sever all ties - what kind of a life is it to live with people like this....horrible.
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