How do you know if /when you've done enough? I am brand new to this site--never blogged/commented on any forum...and I just really need perspective. My mom and sister died 5 months apart in 2012 and it totally has destroyed my father. He's severely depressed, isolated, and just has given up. My younger brother and I will do anything for him, but he refuses. He cycles through major depressive episodes not getting out of bed, drinking to excess, sleeping all day, etc. Not a big deal, right? But, he had a neurological disorder so when he doesn't take care of himself, he starts to fall, drinks more, becomes belligerent and so dejected. We have care that comes every day to help, life alert, and my brother has moved in temporarily, and I drive 2 hours ( one way) a few times a week. He won't consider any treatment, outside help, or even leaving the house! Each time we suggest or encourage this he shuts us down. He's a physician and we will never be able to "know" more than him. I want us to salvage what's left of our family but how do you convince someone who just doesn't want to go on? Sigh.