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We rented a mobile home on my dad's property to a couple (no kids). The wife became one of my dad's caregivers and now is his only one. We have a rental agreement with them that was signed prior to her starting caregiving. It is becoming apparent that with dad's declining mental state and her PTSD that she will not be able to care for him when he gets farther down the road of this disease. Right now he is mobile (shuffles), he eats by himself and toilets too.


I was speaking to a gal who told me that even though she lived in a separate residence she is considered a "live in" caregiver. I am thinking of giving her notice to move and perhaps her notice as caregiver too. Perhaps not immediately but probably sooner than later.


Can she cause me trouble if she is declared "live in"? I've heard of caregivers (live in) not moving out after they were released from their jobs.


Kinda concerned.


Thanks. (I know, I probably need to talk to an attorney).

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If you are the Durable POA, I'd get legal advice on firing, hiring, evicting, etc. I'd make sure I was on firm legal ground, before taking legal actions, that could impact me or my dad's estate.

And, maybe, the extra family members do annoy your dad. It's understandable, but, I'd keep in mind that except for the early stages of dementia, a person with that condition really can't be left alone in a house. Even with people living next door, it's quite risky. You can explore the safety aspect of it. But, I'd also explore how likely it will be that these family members will be bathing, changing, feeding, staying up at night, etc. with a person with dementia and how stressful it would be for your dad living with a loud family, as he struggles with this condition.
Is your dad still competent enough to say what he wants?
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I do think that the consult with an attorney is wise, especially, if you are anticipating that your father may need to qualify for Medicaid in the future. Because, her living on his property, could cause all kinds of issues when they determine assets, income, etc. for his eligibility.

Plus, like you said, someone with PTSD caring for a person with severe dementia is just very concerning. That type of care is extremely stressful and requires a very stable and mentally healthy caregiver. I'd be concerned for both of them.
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Janny61 Aug 10, 2018
His property is already in an Irrevocable Trust so that isn't a worry.  My daughter and son in law and their 3 kids moved in with dad at the end of Feb. It seems to be a lot of stress on him having them and all their noise living with him.  So I'm thinking of moving the tenant out and having my daughter's family move into the mobile home. 

She's been a caring caregiver but I have had to put up with her PTSD issues (mostly with strangers coming to visit. she doesn't know them; dad doesn't remember them). 

She is involving herself too much in our family business and is causing "drama" between everyone.  I'm just tired of her and all her problems that we get to hear about too.
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Give it more thought. Even though she will be unable to do any lifting, she may still prove to be very helpful as a sitter and also helping with his meds. Can you free her from caregiving duties altogether and go back to being a regular tenant who pays rent?
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Janny61 Aug 10, 2018
I could free her from caregiving duties and have her be a tenant again. My daughter and her family moved in with dad and so I'm thinking of having them move into the mobile home.  They need more space and he needs some quiet.  She has 3 kids: almost 5, 19 months and a newborn.
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I’m not certain why you would ask her to move out if you have a rental agreement with her. Are they bad tenants? Do you have a legal, signed Caregiver Agreement with her? Even if you did, it shouldn’t preclude you from telling her you’re ramping up Dad’s care and he needs someone more qualified to deal with his declining mental state. It sounds like she just kind of picked up caregiving for your dad because she happened to be in the right place at the right time.

You need to ask an attorney if she is considered live- in or not. I think she’d have to be under the same roof as him.
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Janny61 Aug 10, 2018
Read my reply to Sunnygirl1.  I don't think she has a caregiver Agreement. I'd have to double check.  When they moved in in July '16 she stated she did not want to be a caregiver.  She had cared for a man (alcoholic like my dad but not with dementia) and she was done with that.  But I think she saw the opportunity to make some money and in August dad had a car accident and lost his license and then he needed care in recovery.  I had already been thinking I needed someone to cook and do some cleaning.
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