Follow
Share

We have 6 children living close to us. In August 2023, we moved closer to them at their request so they could "help" us as my husband has Vascular Dementia. They rarely call to ask how he's doing, or how I'm handling caring for him. I finally "lost " it and complained how difficult the last 18 months have been for me as his 24/7 caregiver. So they got together and decided that I should sell our home, get rid of our dog, and move to Assisted living with him. I am fully independent and competent. He doesn't qualify for Assisted living. He requires memory care. I've been diagnosed with Lymphoma and can get exhausted. I have PTSD related to all the trauma as the children informed me that because I complained about caring for their dad, I've lost my family. Only 2 of my sons and a daughter in law are supportive. The rest of the children won't call me or let me see my grandchildren. I love my husband and took excellent care of him while he was here with me. His agitation increased and he was becoming violent and it wasn't safe for me to be alone with him any longer. While he was home with me they visited with him twice in 18 months. They've been visiting with him now that he's in the facility and think they know enough about him to take him out to visit with family for a Barbecue, etc. , without my presence. Recently he's been put on medication for anxiety. He experiences sundowning, doesn't know how to pick up a sandwich, needs his food cut in small pieces, forgets there is food in front of him, doesn't do well with excitement or loud noises, rarely communicates, and needs assistance in the bathroom, etc. They think that because he's comfortable when they visit him at the facility, he'll be fine to go for an outing and needs a break from the facility. I'm all for him spending time with them outside the facility, but they need to understand his needs to be comfortable. I don't think a surprise gathering with 6 of his kids, their spouses and the grandchildren is a realistic plan for a happy outing. They haven't asked me for advice and think they know better than I do, what his needs are. If I restrict their ability to take him for an outing, they'll start a war with me, that I can't handle right now with my anxiety. They don't respond to any text messages or voicemails from me. I love my children and miss them terribly. But I've been disowned for admitting him to memory care. I miss my husband. We were married for 31 years. I've been his caregiver for 8 years as his Dementia progressed. I have a hard time getting myself to go visit with him and feel so guilty for only going twice each week. I tried to be the best mom, they always said I was. We always had love in our home. I'm trying to understand and I know that losing their dad this was is so very difficult for them. I realize that I shouldn't have complained a few times that I did about how difficult it was to take care of him, but I never showed impatience or frustration to my husband and am proud of the way I took care of him. It sounds silly, but if it wasn't for my service GSD and my best girlfriend, who's been an angel, the emptiness would be unbearable. My son's are supportive but extremely busy with their jobs and families. I understand that and don't want to be a bother. I'm the mom and supposed to be strong for them. I wish someone could explain all this to my heart.

Find Care & Housing
I agree let them take him. Hopefully he will get violent and see what you went thru. As POA you have a right to not have him taken out of the building. I would ask that u be notified when he is taken out of the building. I would ask, too, if the staff has problems with him after an outing. If so good reason to stop the outings.

I have a friend who allowed her kids to take over her life. She now lives a hr away from friends with no car. She is 74.
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to JoAnn29
Report

Valentine, is there a caregiver's support group at the facility where your H lives? If so, you might consider attending some of their meetings. I don't normally think that everyone should belong to such a group - and I don't - but I know it's there if I need moral support. It will be mostly women, and you might find solace in their concern and sympathy. Oppositional family isn't uncommon! Maybe they can help you to stay on course with what's best for YOU rather than ungrateful family members, especially if they've been through something similar.
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to Fawnby
Report

You had said "I realize that I shouldn't have complained a few times that I did about how difficult it was to take care of him"...

I say you had every expectation that expressing how difficult caregiving can be to your children about their dad whom you love so much would result in maybe your feelings being validated, or at least some sympathy, not disowned! Don't blame yourself you had no fault in any of this. I hope the staff decide it's not wise medically to take him out.
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to casole
Report

Valentine, I am so sorry for your situation. Your daughters sound like wretched humans.

I would let them take him as much as they want, they will find out how very ignorant they really are.

Hopefully it is not to damaging to your husband to educate them on the reality.

You have done wonderfully for and by your husband, now it's time to take care of you.

May The Lord give you strength, courage and healing for this season of life.
Helpful Answer (2)
Reply to Isthisrealyreal
Report

Valentine, I'm going to add something else to what I said before. Your children should realize that their father can no longer circle around what they do, rather he is now like a stone in a river, still here, but not flowing with the rest of them. They must now alter their path slightly around him. They could have a short little gathering at the memory care that is about him, then they could go do their thing and have a bigger party. I don't really like the idea of them learning what his limitations are by making him confused. He could, in fact, get really sick from it. He would, however, probably enjoy a little party at HIS place, where he is comfortable. They are acting on their own feelings that being stuck in a facility as confining for him. It isn't. It's comforting.
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to ArtistDaughter
Report
Valentine7 Apr 30, 2025
The kids surprised me with an "intervention " after telling me to come over for just a family gathering. My doctor later called it an assault. I was told that the decision was made. I had to sell my house, get rid of my dog, (who is trained for my PTSD to prevent my panic attacks), and move into assisted living with my husband so he wouldn't be alone. He didn't qualify for AL but needed Memory Care. "I was an awful person for letting him move in alone ". He doesn't even know my name. That meeting was followed by a chain of accusatory emails that broke my heart. They said that I would lose my family if I didn't do what they wanted. My daughter's are keeping that promise. I can't find a place in my soul to cry my heart out. They're gone, my husband's absence has made this home so empty. My Oncologist said the stress is creating an environment for my blood cancer to grow. And so it has. God, my sons and daughter in law along with their precious children are giving me the strength to fight for my life...along with this crazy, loveable German Shepherd!
I agree that he seems fine to them and well enough for an outing. But they don't realize that he seems well because he is comfortable and feels safe where he is.
(2)
Report
See 3 more replies
As POA you can decide who visits and when and if they can take your husband out of the facility.
I would put in writing your instructions as to how they should handle visitors,. And if there is anyone you want not to visit that should be in writing. If you want supervised visits you can specify that so if anyone shows up the facility can contact you and if you can you can meet them.
I know how you feel and what you are going through I hope things are resolved.
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to Grandma1954
Report
Valentine7 Apr 30, 2025
What angers me is all the times we invited the children to visit and told them they were welcome, they rarely came and called to speak with their dad. Now that he's unable to experience the visits he would have loved before, they're all involved and concerned. That ship sailed 18 months ago. And now I'm the one they fault. I don't understand. We offered so much love and welcome. They threw it away with both hands. They had better things to do...until now.
(1)
Report
Tell the don in writing that no one is allowed to take him out without your permission.

Edit. I see you’ve already done this.
Helpful Answer (0)
Reply to PeggySue2020
Report

I'm glad you do have some family support, but it appears that you're better off without the others. I'm so sorry.

My husband is in memory care now with many of the same issues that yours has, so it's easy to put myself in your place and try to figure out what I'd do if I were you.

First I'd have a talk with the administration at H's facility. I'd be very candid and honest as to how this family got to this point. I assume you pay his bills there and are his POA? If so, you are the boss. I'd ask the management what they'd advise. They've seen it all before. You don't want kids to remove him and not take him back and conceal where he's gone. H may tell them that's what he wants, but he is legally incompetent to make such decisions now, and his children need to know that.

The facility may very well say that it isn't in H's best interest to go out with your children. The facility doctor may sign a form saying that he isn't to be released to them. Check it out.

If he is allowed to leave, you decide if it's in his best interest. I don't think it is. But I also believe that taking care of H for an afternoon or a day or week would open your children's eyes to the true situation. Don't expect them to apologize, though. Tell facility that no one can take him out without your approval in writing EVERY TIME.

You are entitled to be yourself. Everything isn't about H! Being yourself means that you get to express emotion, ask for help (which it looks like they didn't provide), tell them how sick you are and feel, and cry in front of them. If you haven't, do it soon. Drive home the pain you feel. Then do it again.

You are no longer the strong mom, and thats okay. You are beaten down by H's illness, and you miss him terribly. You are deeply hurt that those children you raised together are unkind, lack compassion, and don't understand. Own those emotions and don't let your kids tell you what to do.

In a family I know, the parents have always, since their kids' early childhood, been afraid of making their kids angry to the point of being ludicrous. As if the kids are the authorities when it should be the parents! Don't be like that. Be you. The tired overworked you that doesn't have to kowtow to the kids. You know what? You owe them nothing.

My husband has an estranged grown stepchild. If said person shows up, I already know what I will do.
Helpful Answer (2)
Reply to Fawnby
Report
Valentine7 Apr 30, 2025
Thank you for understanding! I'll be taking your advice and consulting with my husband's doctor today. She and I have an excellent relationship. She and the director of the facility are well informed regarding my children's actions as well as staff.
(2)
Report
See 1 more reply
Wow. This is a mess. Have you talked with the memory care staff about how they feel he would do on an outing such as this? When my mom was in memory care they allowed me take her out because she was considered high functioning, but when I did that a few times I noticed she was just not able to comprehend where she was and why, go so confused and agitated that I stopped taking her out. Instead I'd just take her for walks in the fenced in garden. Any other family that visited her would do the same. They believed me. The staff would not allow other not so high functioning residents to go on outings. Not sure if they actually had that power, but I didn't ever hear of an issue with their determination. I'm so sorry you are not being respected for what you've done and what you know about his condition. For goodness sake, we have all complained about the difficulty of care giving. Could you get one of the reasonable sons or the daughter in law to speak to the others about this situation since they won't listen to you?
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to ArtistDaughter
Report
Valentine7 Apr 30, 2025
My son is an Anesthetist and certified in Pain Management. He's been speaking with his sisters but is losing his patience with them, himself. Perhaps they do need to experience what is required of taking care of their father during an outing, since their listening skills need an adjustment.
(1)
Report
I agree with Slart. Let your heartless and ignorant children take their dad out for the day. Let them see what they haven't yet seen because they have no time for their father, yet know you're The Bad Guy here. Let them wake up to the horrible truth of dementia and understand what you've been dealing with for years now. They owe you a big apology and I hope you get one, after their bright idea blows up in their faces! It angers me greatly that Armchair Critics DARE to pass judgement on those in the trenches. The younger generation we've raised of know it all's actually know very little about real life and need to be gobsmacked with a reality check once in awhile so they can develop the humility they so sorely lack.

I'm terribly sorry you're being mistreated by your daughters while you're suffering such loss yourself, not to mention illness. May God bless you with courage and strength to deal with all the issues you face.
Helpful Answer (4)
Reply to lealonnie1
Report
Fawnby Apr 30, 2025
And may God send a blowout Depends moment as soon as he sits down at the BBQ table!
(6)
Report
See 1 more reply
I suspect that if they carry through taking your husband to a BBQ and being around a lot of people, they will be quite surprised and unable to "handle" him. I think this could be a situation where they only take him one time.
I am so sorry that this is such a painful time for you.
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to Hedgie
Report
Valentine7 Apr 30, 2025
I think this may be the best way for them to "see" their father with a better understanding of Vascular Dementia.
(1)
Report
It certainly sounds like you have done everything you could and for the best outcome. And now you’ve done such a good job getting him proper care they think he’s “fine”.

I hope I’m not overstepping and I certainly understand your instinct to keep them from taking him out resulting in agitation and heartache for him, but maybe you should let them. Let them see his real condition and perhaps they may get a clue to value the choices you’ve made.
Helpful Answer (4)
Reply to Slartibartfast
Report
Valentine7 Apr 30, 2025
Thank you for your advice. Perhaps in this case an outing would prove informative more than words.
(2)
Report
Ask a Question
Subscribe to
Our Newsletter