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Bames20 Asked June 2019

I am the only child of 81 and 83 year old parents. I feel that our relationship has become very co-dependent. Thoughts?

My Dad (81) is physically very healthy, but has struggled with anxiety and depression since I was a teenager. His medication has helped immensely.


My mom (83) has had a huge number of serious health issues, starting with a near fatal collapse on a cruise ship in 2012. Nothing was determined 100% - maybe an infection in her brain, maybe not... anyway, she has some permanent brain damage, along with loss of smell and taste, some vision loss, severe hearing loss, and some trouble controlling the left side of her body. Her courage and determination are AMAZING. She is the strongest person that I know. She fell in March and broke her hip. She's already progressed to walking with a cane.


However, as she was recovering in a nursing home, she and my dad decided that they were ready for assisted living.


I'm still working on getting rid of their stuff - I have 3 storage units, a garage, and a basement full of their belongings, and the belongings of my aunt who passed away in January. Yikes.


So, anyway, they've made this move to help me, and it has.


The one struggle that seems to be worse than ever is that they fight, and fight, and fight. They are both used to being very independent people (they married at 36 and 38). My dad still walks up to 5 miles a day, so that gets him out of the house. But, when they're together, they bicker about EVERYTHING: bills, laundry (they don't even have to DO it anymore), the newspaper, the television (volume), what time to go downstairs for dinner, what time to go to bed, where did an item get moved, etc. etc.


I get that all of this is perfectly normal. What's not normal is that we've all become such an enmeshed little "team" that they each tattle to me about the other. I have had problems with anxiety since I was a teen, and it's pretty regulated by medication. I do call my parents 4 times a day, at set times. This is my choice - it calms my anxiety to know that they're ok. BUT, when I call and they're fighting, my anxiety skyrockets. The easy answer would probably be to wean away from calling so often. They're being taken care of. Someone from the facility will call if anything happens. But, I have trouble letting go. That's co-dependency in a nutshell, isn't it? Thoughts?

JoAnn29 Jun 2019
My husband and I banter. Let them go and just walk away. I really don't think its good to call them as often as you do. If u don't visit then call after dinner before the settle down for the night. Just asking how their day went. Don't let them become dependent on you. They have to adjust and find their way. You need to learn to relax. At this point you are not going to change them. Concentrate on getting rid of their and Aunts stuff.

Good Luck.

TNtechie Jun 2019
My parents were both strong willed and determined personalities who argued often. I remember being 12 and enduring a day of car travel where my parents argued and picked at each other all day long while I was trapped in the back seat. This continued through dinner and after we checked into a two double bed hotel room and watched some TV while taking turns in the bath. I was shocked when my father walked out of the bath in his pajamas, turns off the lights, pulled back the covers and gets into the bed, turns on his side and stretches his arm out toward my mother while she immediately rolls into his embrace as they kiss and tell each other good night. Where did that bitterly arguing couple from 20 minutes before go?

Just because they are arguing fiercely doesn't mean they are not devoted to each other. Try to avoid being in the middle as a referee. They may be sharing/venting to you because they have don't any other close friends left; a situation that may change now that they are in AL.

You need to walk away a bit and leave your folks to settle into their new community. Break up the "team" a little for both your sakes. Take small steps, like only calling Mom and Dad twice a day, then once a day, maybe even every other day.

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Ahmijoy Jun 2019
Years ago, we lived next door to a couple who screamed at each other, swore and fought (sometimes physically) all night into the morning hours. No one was more surprised than we were when the wife wound up pregnant. My dad laughed and commented that their constant fighting was probably their version of foreplay. Some couples just aren’t happy unless they’re embroiled in disagreements.

You are living a totally “what if” life. Are you fearful that if something does happen, you will be blamed because you didn’t call them constantly that day? Or that you will blame yourself? When you call and they’re fighting tell them you’re sorry you called at a “bad time” and they should call back when it’s a better time. Must you listen (and most likely put in your two cents) when they ask you to referee their fights?

If you have no hobbies or outside interests, it’s time to find some; photography, blogging, volunteering, etc. A few sessions with a therapist would be a good idea as well. Find your own place in this life and expand on it. Your parents will be fine. They’ve made it this far!

MsRandall Jun 2019
Tell your parents:, "I won't solve your problems or listen to the two you argue" when I call if you are bickering with each other I will not listen and I will hangup."

When you call and they are bickering say:
"Just checking in to see if you okay. I can tell by your bickering with each other, that you are. I'll talk with you later. Bye!

Hangup immediately.

Don't threaten. Just do,

JenniferLeigh Jun 2019
Calling four times a day?! Yes, if anything happens, someone from the facility will call you.

Do they have a newer mobile phone by chance? What about having them wear a Fitbit or similar health tracker? Then you can log in and check the website and see their heartbeat and number of steps to know they're alive. :)
MaryKathleen Jun 2019
Oh God, I love it, make sure they are alive. My mother in her 90's moved so little that she couldn't keep the watch she wore running. It was one that wound when you moved your arm. She did walk though and I think it is a hilariously wonderful idea.
Harpcat Jun 2019
Part of anxiety is feeling loss of control. So yes it does sound like you are co dependent and want some control as it makes you feel better. Are you working with a therapist on this?
Remember the serenity prayer? Lots of truth in that. I have become much wiser and dare I say hardened since I've been on this 6 year journey with my dad. YES they will call you if something happens to them there. That's the whole point of living in a place like that. Calling 4 times a day is a lot. I hope you can wean yourself off that as it's not serving you. But one thing I also see is a lack of boundaries on their part by tattling to you and on your part by not telling them it's not ok. That is where a therapist can help you if you can't figure out how to get the backbone to tell them. There are good books on setting boundaries which also help you feel like you have some control over what happens in your life. Henry Townsend is one author I can think of. SO don't let them gossip to you and try using you to pit one against the other...it's not healthy. You can't control whether they bicker...these are patterns they've adapted. Is it healthy? No, but you can't change it only they can. And I doubt that they will.

sandy1955 Jun 2019
When my girls were young they would call me at work and be fighting and one was on one phone and the other on another one. I told them that any time they called me fighting I was hanging up and I did. It took care of the problem.
Might not work for parents though.

MaryKathleen Jun 2019
it took me about 4 years of therapy to learn to say "I don't want to hear it, if you have a problem with XXX go to them".

After my father died, my mother didn't have a good word to say about him. Finally, and after therapy, I just told her that she picked him to be my father, I had nothing to do with it, and she stayed with him. He left her a decent retirement and I didn't want to hear any more bad things about him. He was my Daddy, that she picked for me, and I loved him. After that if she forgot herself and started talking smack about him, she would look at me and say in a nasty voice, "Oh, That Is Right!! you don't want to hear anything bad about him". I would calmly say, "That is correct."

Don't call so often, call once in the morning to make sure they made it through the night, and once in the evening to be sure they made it through the day. And, try not to take 4 years like it did me to get some backbone.

Llamalover47 Jun 2019
Do not engage. Do not engage in arguments. Do not engage in any conversation that is so ridiculous that it elevates your blood pressure. So - Be like an auto that will NOT start. It does NOT serve the wellbeing of your health!

DizzyBritches Jun 2019
Their marriage is their private relationship. You are not a part of it. My parents bickered all day every day, but they were devoted to each other. They ADORED each other, and we kids came a very close second, and that was the way it should be. I assume your parents loved each other enough to go into assisted living together.

You probably don’t need to call them as often as you do, especially since it clearly stresses you out. When one starts talking to you about the other, you can gently refuse to engage or change the subject. If you don’t, it’s not going to stop, and you have already heard your share of complaints.

Good luck. It doesn’t make you a bad person to set boundaries with your parents for the sake of your own mental/emotional well-being. Don’t walk into that trap. We all need to set limits on what we can and can’t realistically deal with.

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