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My mother in law has been sleeping on the couch in our tiny home for over two years. She blew through all her money apparently and has a drinking problem. She has over 200 thousand in an IRA account and she refuses to apply for her deceased husbands or hers benefits for social security
She doesn’t do anything to help with rent or cleaning or helping with kids. My partner thinks she is broke when she is not
She is 64 and is ruining my life. She has the money to pay $750 in storage fees every month but not get at least own apartment. I am so confused. She gets wasted and has gotten so drunk she had to have the ambulance come twice. She is passive aggressive and rude and spits on my floor and makes everything dirty she watches and eavesdropping on everything. She knows my partner and I fight due to the stress of her being there but she doesn’t care. Is this normal? How can I make my partner understand that his mom is okay to be on her own and she is actually not broke?

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I think the actual question that matters here is why are YOU still living there? I'd have been out the door the first time she spit on my floor.

Oh, and if your partner is not your married spouse, then she's not your MIL, and I'm not surprised why he chooses her over you. You're way down the totem pole of priorities if you two haven't ever gotten married.
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Astridlux Oct 2022
You’re absolutely right. When I was younger and we got together I didn’t know what a healthy dynamic was. I came from emotionally immature and dysfunctional family. Now that I am older I see the mistakes and have taken actions to try and work through issues with therapy and such. It’s just difficult when you have built a life with someone and you still care to just drop it. I get what you are saying though. Thank you for your time.
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Maybe he let’s her live there to preserve
her money, so he’ll have the $200,000 for his inheritance.
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Astridlux Oct 2022
Lol he is isn’t going to get anything from her she will leave anything to her favorite grandchild who doesn’t talk to her for years and only calls when he needs money and the church’s she follows
he doesn’t see this or does not want to
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Why? and how? have you and your husband coped with this for over 2 years? Why does your husband tolerate her getting drunk and spitting on the floor in your house? Why did you get an ambulance when she was drunk – that’s not what an ambulance is usually for! How is the marriage going, if he “becomes passive aggressive and mean just like her and he starts to talk about me and how I am and I’m the problem”?

None of this makes sense to me. In fact it sounds too horrible to be true. Have you tried to get help for yourself? Or for the kids who get a mention in passing? If not, why not?
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Astridlux Oct 2022
My partner feels responsible for her and even more now considering how she acts like she will have no money and no place to go if he doesn’t let her live with him. She has been acting insufferable and the other day she actually said in front of my kids that she talked to her favorite grandchild that is not any of them. It’s so insane. I know my partner is stressed and every time I bring this up he gets mad at me and he wants to just sweep it under the rug
I am looking into other options for me and the kids
thank you for your response. I appreciate you and all the answers I have gotten. I started to think I was in the wrong or was being unreasonable because it is his mom
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Why are you staying with him? He has clearly chosen his mother as his life partner, not you.

Leave as soon as you can. Seek counseling to learn how to make better choices in mates.
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Of course it's not 'normal', especially at 64 years old! I'm 65 and the thought of doing such a thing to any of our children is beyond ridiculous.

She's doing this because she CAN and nobody's telling her she CAN'T.

And somebody had better tell her she's got to get out before her $200K in retirement savings is down to $20K in retirement savings and she really IS broke, the way things are going right now. No joke.

It's time for your partner to grow a spine and tell mama it's time to get OFF the couch and on with her own life, elsewhere, and out of your home.
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Of course she doesn’t care! She’s living there for free and doesn’t have to lift a finger.

Next time you have to call 911 on her, Let them take her to the hospital. Speak to a social worker (or anyone who will listen!) and tell them she is not safe in your home and needs placement in a facility. You are in no way responsible— legally or morally— to house her. They will argue and try to convince you to take her back home. Do not give an inch!

Your kids aren’t safe with her either. And it has to be stressful on them to have this insane drunk woman in the house.

If your partner takes her home anyway, then it’s time to go elsewhere with your kids. I realize this is easier said than done. Let him take care of ol’ mama and the house alone for awhile.

He has to make a choice. Mama or his own family. If he chooses Mama, you’re better off without him.
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Astridlux Oct 2022
You’re absolutely correct. I am making arrangements to have this lab in place in case mom is the chosen one by him. Thank you for your time .
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Astridlux, sounds like you need to post on a marriage therapy website. This doesn't sound like a caregiving issue, as your partner's Mom doesn't need that type of help.
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Ur MIL does not have to apply for SS. By applying at 64 she will not get 100%. If she can wait till 66 she will get 100% but only her husbands. She will collect whoever made the most. Thats is usually the husband. She can apply now though just get less. If she "is" broke SS would be something.

$750 x 24 months = $18k. Lot of money. Would have gone to offset the cost of a nice apartment. How do you know she has an IRA for 200k? If so, no need for her to live with you. She is going to need to start using that IRA. By 71 1/2 she is going to need to start withdrawing at least the taxes due.

I think you and ur partner need to get away from the house to talk this out. Tell him she has money if she is able to pay for a storage unit. Also, giving money to charity. Tell him how you know she has this IRA. Tell him at 64 she can apply for SS. Explain that her sleeping on the couch cannot go on. Tell him at 64 she can have a job. She is not elderly.

Do you clean up after her? Maybe you shouldn't. Show him the bottles that she can afford to buy. Tell him this just is not working and will never work.
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No nothing about this is normal. The treatment and lack of respect to your home is seriously wrong as is getting drunk repeatedly. There is nothing right or normal about this and she should leave your home.
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Your partner has prioritized your MIL over your relationship. He/she can deny it, but the facts speak for themselves. Your partner needs to decide. If partner says he/she chooses you, then partner must prove it by moving out Mother by _______ date (and don't drag it out very far). FYI your home is now her legal residence, and if she refuses to go, you will need to go through the eviction process. You apply for the form (and pay a fee to file it) at your county's courthouse. In most cases she will have 30 to move once you post the notice in the way specified on the form.

Next, you have chosen to post on an aging/caregiving related forum. Does this mean you suspect that MIL may have a cognitive impairment? From the info you provided, it sounds like her non-sensical decisions on every front may indicate she may have something more going on, like Alzheimers. I have a 68-yr old cousin who was recently diagnosed. She marrried a dopey guy 20-years her junior, and made all sorts or weird decisions about selling her home, moving, then moving back. It made no sense...until she started getting lost driving to places she was very familiar with, and not taking herr thyroid meds correctly, and it finally got so bad they had to trick her into going to a doctor (about her thyroid) but then asked for a cognitive exam, which lead to further exams and the final ALZ diagnosis.

Your MIL is not too young to perhaps have this problem -- especially if she wasn't like this until recently. If you think this may be at play, then you and your partner need to discuss what your plan going forward will be. But if I were in your shoes, I'd get her in for an exam before kicking her out. That's just me...other responders may disagree but it would be cruel to kick out someone who is no longer medically capable of acting in their own best interests. I wish you much clarity, unity and wisdom as you sort through this.
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Astridlux Oct 2022
Yes, I thought the same thing and discussed this and my concern to my partner. He thinks that her behavior is solely from her drinking. He won’t discuss any really important issues or concerns with her and it’s so frustrating and I try and she just acts like she doesn’t hear me and then talks badly about me under her breath it’s so much stress
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You will not get her to move out, only your partner can and they don't sound willing to do it. It she is impacting your life, you need to change the situation and move out. Even if you feel you can continue to deal with it, she will be effecting your kids as well and no child should be forced to grow up with a disrespectful, alcoholic. I would act now as she is only 64 so this situation could go on for decades.

If it is your property, ask them to move and if necessary resort to legal action. It is not worth fighting for a relationship where one person is willing to destroy your mental, physical and financial health, you need to put your kids and yourself first. Good luck!
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I think that you need to have a "sit down talk" with your husband.
(Actually reading your post again this is not your legal husband (unless where you live recognizes common law marriage))
You can begin packing up your things and look for a place of your own. (Or a friend you can stay with for a while.)
If you have children together talk to a lawyer first about support for them. If the kids are your partners then they become his full responsibility.
Pick a move out date and move. Let them live together for a while and see how that goes.
You should not have to put up with disrespectful behavior from her.
If you want to continue a relationship with your partner you can start again by getting to know each other, date and let your feelings be known.
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Because someone let her in, presumably. Much like the noble cockroach, if you let elderly relatives infest your house, it's a significant challenge to get rid of them.

The smell is oddly similar too...
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Is your husband an idiot? How do you know all about her finances but he doesn't?
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Astridlux Oct 2022
He doesn’t understand and refuses to ask. I only know her finances from what I clearly have seen and heard her say. She has made over 378 thousand dollars from selling her late husbands properties and now when I ask she only has 170 in its account (she told his brother on phone day prior it was over 200 k ) and he refuses to see all that money should not be spent or whatever she did with it within the time period since 2016 to now
its insane
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She acts like it is not enough or something. He refuses to ask her for rent and is basically just enabling her. she never gave him any love and he still wants that from her. I am here with her most of the time and she is awful when she drinks. He doesn’t know how to say anything to her and anytime I bring it up he fights with me and becomes passive aggressive and mean just like her and he starts to talk about me and how I am and I’m the problem and it’s a circular argument. She acts like she is broke and he believes mommy over me. All she does is give her money away to political campaigns and televangelists. I see all the mail they send her. She got an insurance policy to pay for both houses her and her late husband owned and she didn’t do that. she only owed 80 thousand on her mortgage and had plenty to pay that off and have someplace always to live but she decided to sell it for over 230 and then come stay with us for no reason
I didn’t get a choice.
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LoopyLoo Sep 2022
I think you can see where his priorities are. He’s not going to choose you and kids over Mommy. There’s little point in you staying.
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When you and your partner fight due to the stress of mil being there, what does he say? That she must live there because she is broke? What does he say when you point out that she has over $200K in a bank account?
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