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He was diagnosed 2 1/2 years ago. Before the diagnosis, he made it clear that he didn't want to know if he had ALZ, so we call it ADHD or simply memory problems. We went on a vacation recently, and especially at night he got disoriented. He couldn't picture our house, for example, and thought that he had been married three times,instead of two. That's all kind of normal.

The upsetting part is that he is noticing that he doesn't remember large parts of his past. He has started asking what is wrong with him, and if he should go to see a doctor about it. I answer his questions and assure him I will never leave him, but that sometimes isn't enough to calm him.

Naturally the worst part is that these discussions take place at 1 am or 5 am or 45 minutes before we have to get up!

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I'm dealing with this the second time around -- 10 years with my husband, and now in the 3rd or 4th year with my mother. I wish I could speak from wisdom, or at least from experience. Sorry. This is just a very difficult topic no matter how many times you go through it.

(And I am very familiar with 2 am discussions of critical/important/disturbing topics!)

Realizing that you have lost/are losing large chunks of your identity must be devastating. Even though I've seen loved ones in that situation, I can't really put myself in that place.

The "every one forgets" assurance is fine as far as it goes. But everyone forgets what they did on their vacation five years ago. That is a very different kind of loss (I would imagine) than forgetting significant events and people in your life. The other day I mentioned, in talking to women at mother's table, that "since I've been a widow" I've done thus and such. My mother was aghast. "Widow! What are you talking about! How can you be a widow!" Oops. I explained that my husband had been sick a long time and died more than two years ago. "Where was I? How come I didn't know about it!??" I understood that her grief was at being left out or somehow missing the very significant milestone of the death of a son-in-law she truly loved. I hugged her. I said, "Mom, you did know about it when it happened. You were very sad with the rest of us. You were very nice to me. It is just that your memory is not working so good today. You were part of that, and I was glad to have you there for me. It is not your fault you don't remember it now." There was just no way I could diminish that event by "oh, everyone forgets things." That seems to me to dismiss her very real suffering at thinking she'd been left out or being very disoriented about her own life.

Once my husband asked if I was his first wife or his second. LOL. I couldn't very well say, "Oh, everyone forgets things now and then." I sat and held his hand and said, "It must be very scary to have things like that mixed up for you. I am your second wife. We have been married 30 years. Let me explain a little of your history."

When Mom can't remember what she had for lunch or even if she had lunch it is easy to say, "Oh well, there isn't going to be a test. And the helpers here keep good track of who has eaten so even if you forget they won't let you miss a meal." But when she is upset about not remembering if her sister is still alive, I think it takes a different approach. I wish I could spell out what that is! I wish I knew.

As you discover responses/reactions that seem calming to your dear husband, Jinx, let us know. We learn from each other.
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It may make him feel better to know that most people can't remember most of their past. Unless something stands out as being particularly good or particularly bad, it goes into that gray space of memory that stands to be lost at a later time. If we think back over our school or college days, we can remember some events, but most things just fade away. We can remember where we were during the time, but not all the things that happen. I get embarrassed when an old friend talks about a memory that she remembers very well from childhood and I have forgotten it totally. It meant something to her, but not to me. I tend to remember the times when I made a complete idiot out of myself.

Maybe it will calm him if you tell him that everyone forgets most everything in the past. We probably have it stored in there somewhere, but can't access it. Who knows?

Sometimes we do what we can to alleviate worries and disorientation.
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I understand you concerns totally Jinx4740. I know the present field of thought is to tell patients they have developed Alzheimers, but I will fight tooth and nail to keep that horrid word from my mother's ears. Her health carers know it's my wish and they never speak of Alzheimers. We all call it memory problems. My mum also, like your husband gets anxious because she realizes she's lost huge chunks of memory, it's really hard and sad, there's no easy way but I tend to agree with her and say 'it's awful for you mum to have lost all that memory but I can fill you in on lots that I remember and you can ask me any time'. I will then go down memory lane reminding her of funny or important stories. This is exhausting at times cause she wants to hear the stories in depth. As somebody said above you could try to divert the conversation to something your husband has some memory of. My one consolation is that i can make my mum laugh, she always had a good sense of humour and I milk it for every last drop. Bless you both on your journey.
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Besides Jessie's suggestion, you might try a little "therapeutic fib", as Babalou, one of our wise posters, suggests. When a good opportunity arises and your husband raises an issue about your own past, or something in the past in your life together, pretend you don't remember. Try hard, but just don't be able to remember.

He may feel comforted to know that he's not alone in being unable to remember everything. I doubt if anyone can - I think it's part of the memory reprioritization that occurs as we grow older.
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I like the idea of overloading filing cabinets.

But unfortunately I DO remember how much chocolate I eat, along with the self chastisement for indulging. If only I could switch the memory wires to forget about the chocolate and remember the broccoli....
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Another thought occurred to me this morning. So often the advice to redirect is given for other types of conversations, such as when someone becomes challenging or accusatory.

Jessie makes a good point; I will always remember where I was when I learned that Kennedy was assassinated; I can still picture the location very clearly. Same when 911, when my mother and sister died. But I still don't remember some things that probably weren't important anyway.

Jeanne gives some good examples of gently acknowledging but negating a concern if the issue isn't that critical. And frankly, I don't remember what I had for breakfast or lunch either. Unless it was chocolate.

It occurred to me that you could tactfully segue into another subject that your husband does remember well, perhaps something more recent and which would pique his interest.

If vacations are problematic, take shorter trips instead to areas around your house that are very familiar. Go to the same ones repeatedly so they become, hopefully, more familiar.

If he says "I don't remember that part of my life", shift to an aspect he does remember well.

You may have to give this some thought so you can be prepared to shift direction the next time he becomes concerned that he doesn't remember, and segue into something like "yes, but do you remember the time that we .... "
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Me again. I remember, Jeanne, that it was Lewy and not D. I have to admit that Lewy is someone I hope to never meet.
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Whew I, too, can't remember a lot of my past only extra special events or world events, so that makes me feel better about my own memory. Loved it whenever my parents will say "remember when you were 5 years old and such & such".... me "ah no".... then they will go into each and every little detail which made me wonder if I had a twin sister years ago that I didn't know about who did these things :P

Jinx, how does hubby react to seeing photos of his past, does that help with recalling his memory? If not, then distract him with something else not related to remembering something.

If I can't remember something I just tell myself that my brain's file cabinets are overfilled so it takes longer to find that piece of information :) My Dad will complain that he can't remember some things, and I will tell him I have that issue, too. It makes him feel better.

Oh, GardenArtist, I can't remember breakfast or lunch, either... but can remember how many Hersey dark chocolate almond nuggets I had yesterday :)
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Thanks for your kind and helpful answers. Since this is a new situation, and we were on vacation and short of sleep, I felt comfortable telling him that he would remember in the morning, and he mostly did.

This morning at breakfast, he made a list of what is bothering him, to talk over with his shrink. I attended today's session. We talked about how alarming it is for him, but by his second rereading of the list, he was busy explaining why he doesn't remember things, and how his memory really isn't that bad. This is a behavior that pushes my buttons, but I try to bite my tongue. If denial makes him happier, he's easier to deal with.

Another aspect is that we were both programmers, and used to analysing and fixing problems. His memory loss is a problem for which there is no solution. Even naming the real problem is best avoided. I have to shift to a different mindset when these conversations arise. I also keep hoping that there actually is a magical correct way to fix the problem. Sigh.

This also seems like an omen of worse things to come.

Well, I hope to have him in adult day care soon. They tell me there are some nice men for him to socialize with. Thank God that he is willing to give this "club" a chance.
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Thankfully my sweet husband knows he is not thinking as previously did. He is a brilliant man, very respected and i try to cover for his lack of ability to do simple things. The remote for tv, or operate telephone, and being as he has already completely messed up computer system, and stove etc im having to relax covering up. I try to remember hes still same man. His family has nothing more to do with him but he deserves respect and love
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