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I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES THAT EVERY MOMENT WITHOUT PAIN IS PRECIOUS. WHEN THEY ARE GONE REALISM SETS IN AND FOR AN OLD MARRIED GUY LIKE ME I AM READY TO JOIN HER AS MY LIFE NOW IS WAITING FOR MY MOMENT. 72 years with one gal is more than a lifetime for others. I still cannot imagine that we had all this time and life is precious for me with family I am getting tired but will renew my passport if I can make that last trip to the UK.
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Happy Hallowe'en, everyone 🎃 This is for blonde, et. al : Having been through a similar experience with a grandmother and an aunt, I'm sorry if what I'm about to say is negative, because it is. I'm afraid that unless your legal counsel is F. Lee Bailey, you can pretty much forget about winning that case; I really believe he may be leading you on. I think you'll find that what you have is pretty much a losing battle. But I have seen some pretty bad suffering - and absolute gobs of ignorance. By this stage, please realise that morphine is your - and their - friend.
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Nobody is denying the use of morphine in the last 48 hours fortunately it is humanitarian to lull the patient into a doped sleep so that they die without pain and realization.
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LME: What do you mean by "she must have had a stroke or something?" They owe you a definite answer!
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I have had this gut feeling something wasn't on the up and up the night the hospital transferred my terminably ill husband to hospice. It was a very rushed situation. They wanted me to meet with representatives from two different hospices to ask questions then make a decision. I knew nothing about hospice, therefore I didn't have a clue what questions to ask. I was in the dark and against the transfer and told the staff I did not want my husband moved to hospice. The hospital would not allow him to stay. He passed away the very next morning once he was at hospice. I asked the hospice nurse why didn't the hospital just allow my husband to remain there to die instead of moving him to an unfamiliar place. I was shocked at the nurse's answer. She said hospitals do not want patients dying there because it reflects negatively on the hospital's ratings! People don't question why a patient dies at hospice, because that's the purpose of hospice, but the CEOs question why a patient dies in their hospital. The number of patients who die in their hospital gives people a bad impression of the hospital facility and its staff. That upset me even more knowing the doctors deliberately wanted my husband out of there before he died, yet the less moving him around seems to have been the best option. Has anyone ever heard anything about this? Remember, this was a nurse on staff at hospice who confided in me something that I'm sure wasn't supposed to be discussed with patients and their families.
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LME your story is normal as hospitals and Medicare have the home hospice program for the final days.
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sdnbishop, I offer sincere condolences on your husband's passing. Even though you knew it was inevitable somehow it is always a shock.

Hospitals are traumatic places for most patients and especially the elderly. This is well-known and documented. But sometimes I think we don't acknowledge how stressful and traumatic they are for loved ones as well, particularly. My husband died on hospice care too. I am so glad it was in our calm and familiar bedroom!. My heart goes out to you.

You know what? I think that nurse who explained the reason for rushing your husband out didn't do you any favors. And why would we assume that she was accurate in her opinion? Was she in on policy-setting decisions for the hospital?

Actually, statistics about death rates in hospitals include deaths within 30 days of discharge, so sending someone off to die elsewhere doesn't really improve the rating.

Hospitals are not supposed to keep patients beyond the point they are able to help the patient. To do so gives the appearance of milking the insurance for all they can get. It is a fine line they walk.

After the hospital determined that there was nothing else they could do for my mother they were eager to discharge her to her nursing home and strongly suggested we consider hospice care. We were also extremely eager to get Mom out of the stressful, traumatic, confusing ambiance of the hospital.

Hospice is for people who are expected to die within six months. For a hospital to allow patients to remain there to die could really take up beds where no benefit was being delivered, for weeks. In your husband's case it was only a day, but this is very hard to predict. (In my mother's case, she did not die by the end of the week as the hospital expected, but in fact is still with us (and not of hospice) more than a year later.

I am sorry that not only were you in the stressful environment of the hospital but also that you were forced to make decisions about hospice without knowing anything about it. How uncomfortable.

My husband had a terminal disease and so I looked into hospice long before it reached the end stage. I was well aware of what we were signing up for. My best friend's husband has stage 4 cancer. She has explored hospice care. The most recent episode that had her husband in ER and then admitted for a few days, she asked his doctor if her husband was actively dying. He assured her that it wasn't time yet for hospice.

So, sdnbishop, poor dear, you not only lost your soul mate but experienced it in a stressful environment with little knowledge of what to expect. And someone you would naturally respect gave you a cockamammie explanation that did not value your husband's comfort. No wonder you have an uneasy feeling.

It is hard enough to deal with becoming a widow without all these extraneous bad feelings thrown in. Please accept that your dear husband died when it was his time. Medical facility policies may seem heartless but they are not generally based on a disregard for human comfort and safety. I hope you can discard these bad feelings, focus on your sadness over the death itself, and proceed with the slow healing process.
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Just an FYI update ... my friend's husband today decided he won't be taking treatments anymore for his stage 4 cancer. He is at home, on hospice care.
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