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Balesgirl5858 Asked March 2018

Could anyone tell me what exactly an emergency detention order is and how that is handled?

I am GRATEFUL so much for the information and answers from all... Thank you for your patience ...I am definately taking the advice of a new lawyer cause he barely let me get those initials down right of a EDO. For geriatrics with my mom refusing one day and never knowing day to day but now IDK what I need to do that or how that works. If someone could please tell me if you don't mind. Thank you.

JoAnn29 Mar 2018
Balesgirl,

Please no abbreviations makes it hard to read your posts.

Was the lawyer able to help? Was Mom evaluated? You said Doctors say no Dementia?

JoAnn29 Mar 2018
Becky, thanks, don't think I have heard this before. Learned something knew.

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anonymous439773 Mar 2018
There is a component of dementia called showtimers. The patient has the ability to fool doctors and others that they do not have dementia and do not need medical attention or evaluation. It is relatively common in the earliest stages of dementia.

Regarding a 72 hr EDO. These are most commonly used in ER settings and in some cases by law enforcement. During the 72 hours the patient will be evaluated for both mental health and medical status. If there is a medical problem the patient will be referred for admission or referral. In mental health the ER will try to get the patient to voluntarily admit for treatment. If a danger to them self or others in the community they will be involuntarily admitted for up to 30 days and have a court with a patient advocate and a psychiatrist representing the state and another representing the patient. It should be noted that the psychiatrist representing the patient and the patient advocate may both testify that the patient needs to be involuntarily admitted for their own safety and the safety of the community at large.

Balesgirl5858 Mar 2018
im sorry i have been i understand not understanding much of this but they by they means the edr. n er dr,s say no sign of dementia

JoAnn29 Mar 2018
Balesgirl,

The problem is you have started other threads and it becomes confusing. You need to stay with one thread so it makes it easier for us to keep up with you. The word is "Sundowners". Meaning someone can seem OK most if the day until evening when the Sun goes down. Then the Dementia symptoms set in. Is the lawyer helping to get a Detention order so Mom can be evaluated. Until she is evaluated it's hard to say what is going on with her. She could have a UTI. Diabetes. Potassium too low. A number of health problems can cause Dementia type symptoms. If she is diagnosed with Dementia then you will need to understand that her brain is dying and she will do things that don't make sense. She Can't help it.

Balesgirl5858 Mar 2018
I know I've ask alot of questions... I'm very overwhelmed n im greatful for yu all taking Time for answers n I finally heard the name showtimers. And I do know she is doing this on purpose and she gets attention she just is manipulative n is punishing me but I just contacted a place like said from alot of advice and did contact the police n so they said the EDO. since she refuses n I just fee anyone who is making there daughter or anyone for that matter sick is Ill

JoAnn29 Mar 2018
This person has posted numerous times about the same thing. Hoping this lawyer can help her.

anonymous439773 Mar 2018
It's a 72 hour hold for stabilization, evaluation and medication monitoring. If during the evaluation process the patient threatens self harm or harm to others, there may be a court hearing to determine if there needs to be a further involuntary admission or referral to another facility. At discharge there should be a discharge plan in place for further treatment or perhaps a monitored housing referral.

Grammyteacher Mar 2018
We have a niece with schizophrenia. I have had to use this process multiple times when she was off her meds and became a danger to self and others. In my state, it requires 2 individuals willing to sign and attend court stating that she is a danger to self and others. Once the paperwork is signed, the police pick her up and transport to a facility. They will do the 72 hour observation and administer meds if they
 Doctor feels appropriate. A court appearance is then scheduled and attended by a doctor or representative from the facility, the person being observed, and the 2 persons filing the original order. The judge then determines if the person needs additional time for meds to be regulated. This had been the process for us. I know your situation is different, hope it at least helps a bit.

JoAnn29 Mar 2018
So glad you have a lawyer. Just a suggestion, did he mentioned an emergency detention order? If so, then don't feel embarrassed to ask the meaning of something if you r not sure what it is. You are paying him for his knowledge. I doubt if you are the only one who has asked this question. Please keep us informed about what happens.

gladimhere Mar 2018
oksenate.gov/news/press_releases/press_releases_2015/pr20150129a.htm

Is there an order for your mom?

Countrymouse Mar 2018
It sounds like progress, anyway. Though I'm not so sure about a lawyer who talks nineteen to the dozen and doesn't explain...

I expect the idea is to make sure your mother gets properly assessed in a way that won't allow her to "showtime" or pull the wool over anyone's eyes; and it does seem a good plan.

But don't let yourself be bullied or rushed into decisions, will you?

BarbBrooklyn Mar 2018
If my research is correct, it's an involuntary 72 hour psychiatric hold for a person who is deemed a danger to themselves or others.

In most states, a person can be subject to an involuntary psychiatric hospitalization, but only for 72 hours. It some places, it's called "Baker Act".

Are you in Indiana?

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