MIL cannot forgive or forget.


This is a vent, just a vent, people, since hubby will NOT talk about his mom with me.
Long story short: She hated me before I married her son. (I was 20, and he was 25). I KNEW she hated me (hate is even too kind a word for it--but it's the best I can do)
In my newlywed belief, I could MAKE this woman care for me.
NOTHING I have done has changed her opinion. She harbors a grudge like no one I have ever met. She had a "scary" delivery with my hubby, so every year on his b-day, he gets to hear her tell the story, word for word and start his day out with that.

Of course over the years as I "grew up" and had my own large family and such, I learned a lot of lessons. Most by making mistakes and learning from them not to repeat them (esp with her) but she doesn't let go.

About 10 years ago, as hubby was going through a terribly brutal form of chemo after his liver transplant (may I add that she did not ever call nor visit him in the hospital, not once in the 5 weeks he spent there) she called me. I had just walked in the house after a long 8 hr day tearing out sheetrock at a home my sister and I were "flipping". I had just begun dinner and she called and I put the phone on speaker and she proceeded for 45 minutes to "bullet point" everything she could about my personality, character and what she referred to as "unforgiveable faults". I kept on making dinner and she ranted and raved, tears streaming down my face. She ended with "You have ruined my son's life and ANY chance he had for happiness. You GAVE him this disease (no, I did not, he contracted HepC somewhere else and he had it when I married him). She said she never wanted me near her home or her. Hung up.

Of course I was upset and when hubby came home, he just sighed and said, "well you know mom". End of discussion.

So I have not been to her house, unless absolutely necessary. All pics of me were thrown out (acc to SIL). She doesn't acknowledge me or talk to me at the once a year family party.

Last night we had a niece with a brand new baby come to town. We had an informal BBQ at my daughter's. MIL sits right next to me and (OK, she's totally deaf and talks VERY LOUDLY) proceeds to remind me of some event 30+ years ago where she felt I was being snotty and rude. I sat there like a dummy, trying to figure out what the heck she was referring to. By the time it hit me, the whole family is sitting there, dumb with shock that she remembers word for word that some dr had called me a "thoughtless b*tch". Silence for a few---here's hubby's chance to say ANYTHING in my favor and he does nothing. I was tearing up, so embarrassed--and nobody sticks up for me. She felt that silence was indicative that she could continue, so she threw in a couple more zingers and I said "Well, that was a long time ago, I'm sorry you were in such horrible pain. I'm sure I was totally in the wrong, as usual, and you have my permission to cling to that". I got up from the table and went in the house. Asked my SIL to take me home, and he said "sure"--but leaving would have made her feel she'd "won"--so I stayed.

This woman does not know that she wouldn't have received a single B-day, Christmas or Mother's Day gift if I had not purchased it and FORCED my hubby to see her.

Nothing to be done. Nothing to be said. Just made for an awkward moment and a sad night. I wish my hubby could stick up for me, but he won't. He would not discuss it in the car on the way home and even when I asked him why he wouldn't say anything to her to "defend me" he says it isn't worth it.

So, that's it. Just a rant. And she wonders why nobody goes to see her.

One thing for sure, I am a helluva good MIL. I had to deal with her for 41 years, I learned exactly NOT what to do/say.

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I will def. look up that book.
My DH's relationship with his mother is a hate/fear based one. He saw only the worst in women and the worst marriage on earth. He sometimes says he is amazed that's not how ours has been, even though in my book, I'd give it a solid C. I need to cut him some slack as he is in therapy himself trying to figure out what's going on in that brilliant brain.

BIL has been divorced twice, FIL and MIL were divorced---I told my hubs once, "the men in your family are pretty hard to live with" and he didn't disagree.

we actually had another daughter who had serious in law issues before the marriage. He sure stood up to my SIL's parents, too. I guess I am the only one who will "fight my own battles" as it were. I am glad he supports the kids in their lives.

I once heard Dr. Phil tell a couple who were dealing with the wife's bad mother that it was the wife's responsibility to deal with her parent and not her husband's. 

Your husband should man up and deal with his mother, but maybe he's a mamma's boy. There is a book for wives whose husbands are mamma's boys. When He's Married to Mom: How to Help Mother-Enmeshed Men Open Their Hearts to True Love and Commitment.

Of course your hubby stood up for his daughter. It's HIS daughter after all! LOL. He will just not standup to his mother. It's his MOTHER! LOL.
Even when my hubby would stick up for me, (not often) we would still have a fight about what I or the boys did wrong. His mother will always be right no matter what. Been there done that too many times to count.

Just a final thought/observation before I put this in the mental file:

When my daughter was first married, she had some issues similar to mine with HER MIL. She vented one evening (she'd been married about a year and GOOD HEAVENS! No babies on the way yet!! MIL had called her on her duties as a wife.....she didn't start a family until she'd been married 10 years. Nobody's business!!) Anyway, Hubby took great umbrage at the abuse his daughter was "suffering" and HAD WORDS with daughter's MIL. I had totally forgotten this event. So he CAN support people! Just not me. Ah well, I am glad he has stood up for truth and right in some people's lives. He looks at me as the "problem solver" and I always have to be 100% OK or he kind of freaks out.

I've so appreciated all the supportive comments and truly feel sorry for all the lost love that people let go by because they are too self centered or stubborn to accept it.


Your MIL sounds a lot like mine who did not like me from the start, treated me badly and treated my wife badly whom she said that I had stolen from her. 

After years of being nice, I laid down some boundaries with her and later on my wife laid down some boundaries. Truthfully, according to her therapist, she had been hiding behind my pants wanting me to fight her battle for her. When I stopped, she had to deal with it. 

My wife's identical twin sister unfortunately lives near their mom and bears the brunt of her abuse and does not want to hear anything about boundaries. Her husband thinks otherwise and is very bitter over how things are. Who would blame him for he feels that emotionally his wife is more married to her mom than to him. I've known the feeling, but thankfully not there anymore.  

I think each of the daughters will find some relief once their borderline/narcissistic mother dies. She is one of the most self centered, I'm perfect and always right person that I've ever met. I've put up with too much from her in my marriage for many years, but after several years ago, no more.

That exact thought crosses my mind a lot. She has one friend, ONE, and only speaks to her daughter, whose life is a ball of stress.

MIL had some mini-strokes many years ago. She now takes one baby aspirin a day and literally, that's it. She's as healthy as a horse. BUT...
there will come a day when I get "the call" and very likely my hubby will be out of town as he travels a great deal. I have told him to prepare for this eventuality, just as anyone should think to the future in some respects. I think he may have some kind of meltdown as they are NOT on good terms and won't be, ever in this life.

I have and will let hubby take 100% of mom duty. If she should ever need in home or NH care, I'm supportive of helping find a place, but I'm not stupid enough to actually go see her in a place like that. Her filter is gone, baby, gone and I'm 42 years into the drama. I grieved the lack of a relationship for many years. I am sure I will not shed a tear when she goes. This is the sadness of living an insular and selfish life.

Yes it is sad. This woman I going to die alone. You don't deserve to be treated this way, no one does. Just let husband do his thing. This woman is not going to change.

There must be more crazy MIL's out there than I like to think.
I don't have to, and I won't step into the fray, ever again. I actually wasn't doing it this time, the fray came and found me!

At least I am not living with nor near her. I have zero relationship with her. I'm very sorry that my DH cannot understand WHY I don't work harder to create a relationship with her, but after Saturday's outburst, she ruined any possible chance at hope for one, unless she calls me and apologizes, and based on the past, it isn't going to happen. Next time hubby goes up there (and I imagine it will be months, maybe Christmas) she will no doubt pull this event out of her memory banks make me out to be the bad guy all over.

It used to be that I could kind of laugh off comments and let them go--but I don't have that kind of patience any more.

She's got her perfect daughter, I leave them be. My sis in law is beyond reproach and I mean that. How she came out of this vile, evil woman is a mystery to this day.

I have learned that it is OK to cut people out of your life. I can't remember a time when we left her home after a visit where I wasn't quietly sobbing over something nasty she'd said. My kids struggle between their love and loyalty to me and the fact she is their grandmother and they owe her respect. I can't help them with that. Usually the ones who live out of town will "try" to work in a 15 minute visit with her, but they don't knock themselves out if it doesn't happen. Shoot, her oldest son comes to town and doesn't even call her, much less visit. She's a walking, talking example of how to ruin relationships and destroy love. So very, very sad, really.

I think we have the same MIL. LOL I took her crap for 20 years. She was" Dying" when I met her. Through the years I have just sat back and let it all play out. She is a narcissist to the tee. Someone always needed to be in the "Dog House" with her, and the other two children were not ALLOWED to talk to the one in the dog house. We lost the last two years of my SIL's(Chris) life, because she was the one in trouble at the time. My hubby does stand up for me, he's called her out, and they have gone up to six months not talking.
I finally called her out after Chris (her daughter, my hubby's youngest sister) had passed away. She had cancer in her brain. It was so very sad. I know MIL was hurting, but she had been yelling at my husband at the time. H decided to get a tattoo (yep my fault) of the Green Bay Packers symbol on his leg. H & SIL were/are huge Packer fans, it was to be his tribute to her. She just layed into him with everything she had. How disrespectful he is, how could he even think of that.....& so on. I finally stood up and told her to leave him alone, it wasn't her leg. She got up and with fire in her eyes demamded to know " who the h*ll did I think I was???!!!" I was so p*ssed off at the treatment she had been giving my H I yelled back "I'm his god d*m wife! Who the h*ll do you think you are???!!! She just about exploded! (It's funny now :) )She sputtered a bit then called me " the biggest piece of sh*t on this earth for talking to her like that" then she stormed out. Haven't spoken to her in about a year and a half. No more Family parties, birthdays, holidays for bad lil ole me. :)

Thanks all---
A couple of days later and I am kind of laughing at this. She shot herself in the foot by saying this all in front of at least 10 people who heard her (and I'm sure were thinking WTH??)....Everyone "knows" she and I are not on good terms.

Hubby is very spineless with his mother. He will sort of, kind of, say things to her, but her gets around her and becomes the little "bad boy" he was when he was small. His brother, on the other hand, calls her on her sh&t and would have taken her away from the party and read her the riot act. (Actually, a few months ago he was in town and he and DH took her to lunch, BIL felt it was time to confront her about some things and she wound up crying hysterically and telling the "boys" she wanted to never see them again.) I got this from DH about 2 months after it happened. He felt bad, but was really empowering to talk to his mother like that.

Funny side note: She is going to live forever. BIL is almost 70, hubby is 65. Their sis is not in good health. BIL said to her ""You know, your "plan" to live to 100 is admirable. Both of us boys will die before you do. Likely sis will too. Gee, that leaves "B" (me) to look after you in your old age, you really should have been nicer to her". I guess she had a meltdown over that.

Truth is, no matter what, I do respect she is my husband's mother and would take excellent care of her (in the home I put her in).

I honestly do not have to ever see her again in my life. I have control over that. She is NOT a part of my day to day and now I have given DH the "responsibility" to get her necessary gifts, I never have to see or interact with her again.

You guys are all great. Thanks for listening to a pointless rant. It was better than just stewing in anger!!

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