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JuliaRose Asked January 2020

Head and body itching?

Hi, my husband is bed/wheelchair bound. I’ve been washing him with a soapy or no rinse cleaner and washcloth as needed in the chair or bed. He hates being washed, and I haven’t insisted unless there’s a reason... smell, dirt, etc. Of course, I keep the groin area clean regularly. On his remaining hair, I use dry shampoo once every few weeks. It’s not oily and he doesn’t smell.


He has had skin itching for a long time, but now it’s become much worse: arms, scalp, belly... I thought the itching was because of kidney failure. But, now I’m wondering if it’s the lack of exfoliation! His head and his chest, for example, are driving him nuts. His hand is always scratching with his finger nails at his skin. Moisturizing lotions don’t seem to help reduce the itching.


I feel silly asking, but has anyone dealt with this? I didn’t think it was the shower because in the past, showering didn’t seem to help to reduce it. That’s why I thought it was kidney related. But maybe things have changed? Maybe I need to use different soap? Different lotion? Wash him with exfoliant? I want him to feel good after washing up and not itch as much!

cwillie Jan 2020
When I got my mom into the shower after I discovered she had been making due with sponge baths - probably for years - she said she "tingled all over". Even if you hubby's itching is systemic that tingly feeling might be worth the effort!
JuliaRose Jan 2020
:D
lealonnie1 Jan 2020
My gosh, I am violently allergic to Bounce dryer sheets; I can't even SMELL the odor of it without having a reaction. So I can attest to dryer sheets being a possible cause of itching (as well as other bad reactions).

My mother had violent geriatric pruritis (which is what itching in the elderly is referred to). We tried everything to get rid of it; it started under her breasts then moved to her upper thighs, then her back, and wound up all over the place. After trying 10 or so different lotions, potions and pills *Benadryl lotion included* I bought her some Dermoplast which is a spray that has benzocaine in it. Also Lanacaine works well in the same way. Those sprays were the ONLY thing that worked for my mother's itching. One day, the itching magically disappeared, believe it or not.

Here is a Google link to pruritis: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1JRYI_enUS478US487&sxsrf=ACYBGNT7AV4WPPGbiysBIR0-KZNxDDretw%3A1580492218028&ei=umU0XrOnAZeMtAaV8ayoDA&q=geriatric+pruritus&oq=geriatric+pru&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0.9106370.9108967..9111175...0.0..0.147.1101.12j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131i67j0i131j35i39j0i67j0i273j0i70i249.uw4YbhGRak8

I hope your DHs itching magically disappears one day SOON too, and that in the meantime, you find something that helps him. Being itchy is a terrible feeling.

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GardenArtist Jan 2020
Dryer sheets have been mentioned.   That's a good suggestion and distinct possibility.  

This article doesn't address the lotions, etc. being used, but does address the overall topic of scented products used in the home.   It's worth a read, as the symptoms may be in the house, and brought out during cold weather when there's no exchange of air from outside.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3018511/

Another source:

https://www.healthline.com/health/dryer-sheets-toxicity#research

Read the section "What the current research says", especially the issues of what breathing scented products can cause:  skin reactions.


Another thought given that you're apparently CA, in the LA area:   fires, and the ingredients used in extinguishing agents.  

Is there any correlation between your husband's skin problems and (a) weather  (b) the onset of the fires?

anonymous951699 Jan 2020
In the short term, you might try Benadryl to take the edge off the itching.
That, and periodically getting my late mom out of bed and showering her with only water, helped quite a bit.
I wish you well.

JoAnn29 Jan 2020
Sunny has good points. Have you changed laundry detergents. When my FIL complained of itching, my MIL started rinsing his clothes 2x. Has he had a medicine change?

I found that Ivory was the worst for us. It dried both my husbands and my skin out. We now use Oil of Olay. I have seen a difference and my itching has gone away. I do agree about unscented products.

Maybe try washing his clothes in Dreft. Its made for babies. But since this seems recent, it just maybe something newly introduced. Maybe he just needs a good shower. Maybe its a build up. I found washclothes in Walgreens that is cloth on one side and an exfoliating material on the other. He could sit on a shower chair and use a handheld shower head. Maybe a baby soap, lather up good and then use something that will help get rid of the old skin.

NeedHelpWithMom Jan 2020
Has he come in contact with mites? They cause extreme itching. They are common in nursing homes and anywhere large groups of people gather. They are contagious. Did anyone visit that may have passed them along or has he visited others who possibly have them? If the itching doesn’t stop, see a dermatologist.
JuliaRose Jan 2020
Gosh, I hope not. I’ll keep a lookout!
Midkid58 Jan 2020
Is there any way you can get hubby into a warm bath? No additives, just water. Let him soak for as long as he's comfortable and then use a gentle washcloth or net body scrubber all over. He is still shedding skin cells and bed baths just don't cut it after a while.

Then gently dry him and rub gentle lotion into the itchy spots and then all over.

Daddy would get itchy--after several weeks of bed baths and it took both brothers to get him in the shower and he always felt a lot better (and cleaner).

Vistaril is good for the itching and the anxiety it can cause. And yes, laundry detergents and dryer sheets, while making our clothes and bedding smell good can cause reactions. I use Dreft (very expensive, but gentle) and no fragrance dryer sheets.
JuliaRose Jan 2020
This is what I would like to do! Get him into the shower for a good scrub to start clean and work from there. I think he could sit up long enough for it in an old wheelchair using the hand held shower head. The hard part is he’s so tired all the time. There isn’t a convenient time to do it. I might just have to take him in to the bathroom half asleep!
Sunnygirl1 Jan 2020
Itching is so complex. It could be anything. I'd try one thing, see if it helps, then go to the next thing if no luck. If you try lots of things at once, you won't know what was the culprit.

The dry shampoo is great, but, it causes me to itch. For that reason, I rarely use it. I've tried several and they all seem to make my scalp itch.

Any kind of soap, detergent, lotion, etc. can cause itching. I have extremely sensitive skin, so, I have to be very careful of any products. Some just cause itching for no apparent reason. I am careful to use Ivory soap and skin so soft avon lotion. I'd be careful of lotions that have a lot of alcohol in them, as they can be drying.

I'd also consider laundry detergent, dryer sheets, etc. They can irritate the skin too. I'd go for none or fragrance free. Check the dryer sheets. some that say fragrance free are NOT and still smell heavily.

I'd also discuss it with his doctor. Sometimes the person has nerves that are overactive or have anxiety that can cause itching. Some people take meds like Vistaril that quiets it down. It's for hives and anxiety/tension.
JuliaRose Jan 2020
It is complex, yes! I’ll start using fragrance free detergent and dryer sheets. I didn’t know the dry shampoo caused itching... I learned that the “leave in” shampoo does this, which was so maddening because I bought several containers. Anyone want to try it? Lol.
GardenArtist Jan 2020
Has there been any change in his diet since the itching intensified?

What's the humidity level in the rooms where he spends the most time?   My skin can become itchy during winter when the heat is up and the moisture down.    Do you use a humidifier to keep the air more moist?

Another possibility is food.   I recently ate something and began to itch afterwards, but I can't remember right now what it was.   This doesn't happen with fresh fruits and veggies though.  

I agree that moisturizer might help, but the only suggestions I have are for the ones I use on my face and legs (which often are the first place to begin itching).

For my face I use a bergamot and lavender face cream, or a frankincense & myrrh face cream.   For my legs, which often become uncomfortably itchy after shaving, I use a rosemary mint body lotion.   But it can't be used if the skin has been scratched up; it needs to be used preventively.  Its fragrance also creates a soothing atmosphere.

All 3 are compounded by the herbal supplier I discovered at a fall crafts show decades ago.  Let me know if you want contact information. 

I've also used, over the years, Organic Shea Body Butters, with Lavender, Honey Almond or other blends.  These can create discomfort though, if the skin is already inflamed.  

He may also be allergic to some of the lotions and washes being used, especially with kidney issues.

Has a dermatologist ever been consulted?
JuliaRose Jan 2020
Thanks for your ideas!
cwillie Jan 2020
The father of friend of mine has been troubled with constant itching and after trying everything from moisturizers to steroids they are using CBD oil lotion, it might be worth trying.
JuliaRose Jan 2020
Thanks for the idea, but CBD interacts with benzodiazepines and -statin drugs. We learned this the hard way.
Geaton777 Jan 2020
Try Cetaphil, you can get it at Target, Costco, Walmart, CVS, etc.
JuliaRose Jan 2020
I will try cetaphil, thanks. I have it upstairs!
shad250 Jan 2020
Different soap may help

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