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judyberryman Asked February 2012

My mom has short term memory loss that is getting progressive. What should I do?

She gets very angry if I call her on things. My mothers mother had severe dementia, my mother made me promise that if she was every like that I had to tell her. Well, I told her. She was very angry. She sees a holistic dr. who prescribed vitamins for her memory loss.

Windyridge Apr 2015
Judy, my dad is 85 and has about 1 to 2 minute short term memory. You can't argue with him or correct him. We just listen, usually agree wit him, tell him what he needs to hear and keep moving. It's of absolutely no use to try and reason with him. If we do manage to convince him in one minute that he already got the paper he'll forget in the next minute. So another walk to the paper box won't hurt him or me. Just roll with it.

Happyrache Apr 2015
My mother has stopped driving now after she ended up 70 miles away from our house, trying to drive to our house on Christmas Day!

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IloveMom Apr 2015
Dandey, Have the DMV give him a driving test....Tell them he needs to be evaluated. Lose the keys to the car. Have doctor deny his driving privledges. He doesn't need to be the cause of a bad accident, and you and your family don't need to be the cause of him losing his ability to drive.......Get him off the road. for everyone's safety..Look into your City drive. Senior citizen drive access......Taxi for seniors, etc....

Happyrache Apr 2015
In the UK, the only way to get on the ladder is to take them to the doctors first with their approval.

Happyrache Apr 2015
Yes I realise that, and she will be having another test in a few weeks at home. this was only a starting point.

BarbBrooklyn Apr 2015
Happy, the sort of mini mental that your mom was given doesn't really get to the crux of many dementias, which affect the ability to reason. She would need a full neuropsych workup for that.

Happyrache Apr 2015
My mother is also having short term memory problems. In fact, it is starting to spread to long term. We took her for a dementia test to the doctor on Thursday. She got 28/30 for the questions! We were most suprised! However, 10 minutes after going to the doctors, she couldn't remember what she had been tested for and who she had gone with! The doctor mentioned that he will test her heart, as if there are problems with the heart, that can also effect the memory. I thought that was worth mentioning.

vstefans Oct 2014
Just saw this article: impactaging/papers/v6/n9/full/100690.html
Maybe the holistic doc needs to read it and maybe this stuff might actually help.
But, this would be more for Alzheimer or mixed than vascular (stroke-related) dementias...

It is hard, but a huge part of dementia of any type is the fact that the person is losing reasoning ability, often first even more so than memory, and therefore becomes very unreasonable at times - so things they would have agreed to before as making perfect sense are out the window.

jeannegibbs Oct 2014
Dandey6, a stroke can trigger the onset of dementia. These outbursts and uncharacteristic behaviors indicate that something is wrong. It might be something quite treatable, like a uti. It could be the beginning of dementia. The first step in dealing with it is to have him evaluated by a doctor. He may resist seeing a doctor and he probably doesn't think there is anything wrong with his behavior. But since he recently had a stroke, I am hoping you can convince him he needs his "two month post stroke checkup." Give the doctor a note about your concerns beforehand.

Sunnygirl1 Oct 2014
Judyberryman,
I noticed you said your mom was good with big things, but not many others. Are you relying on her word as to what she does and does not forget? That can be risky as her reports may not be accurate. She may have it on a calendar, but forget to check a calendar. Often the concept of the calendar is not fully appreciated.

If she is acting as you describe, it may be that she is not able to act on her own behalf. People with dementia often do not understand what you mean by the term. They don't believe it applies to them. They will often act in ways that are not in their own best interests. It's tough to handle, but there are ways around it. If that is the case, hurt feelings cannot prevent safeguards from being introduced.

It's nice you are so thoughtful of your mom's feelings. Normally, the memory gets much worse and the reasoning goes too. I have witnessed this firsthand. I would read a lot to find ways to handle her, if she progresses, because it's not usual for someone with AD or some other condition to think rationally and agree with your requests. They can be become hostile and resistant. I would have plan A and plan B to help her. If your dad is aware of this, he may be hesitant to upset her either.

Dandey6 Oct 2014
Why husband had a stroke about a month ago. He was hospitalized for about 3 days once home he was cooperative. Lately he has outburst usually at me for the smallest things. We don't want him to drive but he does saying we are trying to control him. My daughters car was broke so she asked him to borrow his and he said yes. 3days later he is calling the cops on her for stealing his car. I told him he told her she could use it and he denies ever saying it.

bookworm Aug 2012
Hi Terezia. Welcome to AC. My dad had a stroke last year. He's now bedridden because he refused to go through physical therapy. He's about 84 years old and he can't move is left arm, hand and fingers. I don't even know what kind of stroke he had. Is your mom bedridden? How are YOU coping with caring for her?

terezia Aug 2012
My mother had brain stroke in the year 2010 to date she has not recoverd her memory she doesn't know us.She is now 74 years old.

sebring Feb 2012
anytime judy. this site helped me, im learning a lot more patience and figuring out as i go. if i can help someone else, i sure will..

judyberryman Feb 2012
Thank you and your words will stick. My goal will be to give as much enjoyment as possible, when possible. I have 5 siblings who claim she was always this way.
She was always oppositional, but had a convieinent memory. Now she is oppositional without a good memory. Thank you!!! I will save a lot of grief by trying to have as much peace as possible.

sebring Feb 2012
your gonna have to learn to get clever.. the promise you made was made to her before her mind started to go, so that contracts null and void now.
instead of 'calling' her on things, ive learned to predict what my dads going to do and i 'clear the path' if you will so he can do whatever with no snags..
you gotta figure, shes not just mad at you, shes mad at herself because her mind is slipping and shes in that 'fighting to get it back' mode. anything that even slightly looks like a fight, shes gonna bark.pointing out her flaws aint gonna help, she knows her minds slipping, so it really doesnt help to remind her.
im just saying, i dont know your situation, but from what ive learned, YOU will need to change your tactics, trust me, its much easier to change your moves and get along than to have to fight. i hate fighting. so i get clever.if you know something thats gonna make her mad, just take care of it before she has too. remember, her mind isnt gonna get better, for your own sanity you'll need to learn new tactics. getting mad is no fun...

judyberryman Feb 2012
Thank you Jenna, My mother does very well and does live with my father. They are a good team. She remembers important things, locked doors, medicine, appointments are written down in a calander. She forgets and blends conversations with the news then with dreams. The story is then crazy, sometimes she even gets mad at someone for something that did not happen. She also will repeat 4-10 the same statement in a row. We have been just answering as if it was a new statement. I just wanted to get in some important things for her to answer before it is too late. I also felt I owed it to her to link her to medicine if it would help her in this early stage. I thank you for the "permission" to drop the promise. You gave great advice, thank you so much for taking the time. I was worried no one would answer.

jeannegibbs Feb 2012
Well, you kept your promise to your mother. It didn't help anything, so I'd drop that approach.

Apparently she does recognize that she has some memory loss and she's discussed it with her holistic doctor. That is a good start. Has she been on the supplements long enough to tell whether they are helping at all? Aricept is a drug that is often prescribed for early stage dementia. It is very helpful for some and not useful for others. Maybe you could build on her willingness to take the vitamins to get her to try other meds. Would her doctor be willing, do you think?

I don't think it is going to be very helpful to repeatedly call her on her memory lapses. Instead, try to help her compensate. If she takes pills, helping her use a weekly pill box will reduce the missed doses. A big calendar with appointments prominently displayed is helpful. Both of you can get in the habit of writing things down -- even simple things that would have been easily remembered before. Many people find a small (or not so small) white board or chalk board useful, if paper messages tend to get misplaced.

You can assume that the memory loss is going to get worse, and perhaps other dementia symptoms will be added, although how soon and at what rate the progression will happen is impossible to know. All you can do is take it one day at a time.

Does your mother live alone now? You might start thinking about how to arrange things so she can retain her independence as long as possible, and also start thinking about what comes after that, if she does reach a point where she cannot safely remain independent.

Good luck!

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