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Frustrd1 Asked February 2020

If you come to a verbal agreement for senior care for room board, then when you get paid they tell you to pay rent is that even legal?

Frustrd1 Feb 2020
And the agreement was room &board for over 1 year now, then 1 month ago, told to buy own food. Then last weekend a friend brought me $ to get my ID and for other personal needs like food toiletries ,etc. They started tripping on the fact I had a visitor . I explained they were bringing $ for my ID & they said we'll u need to pay rent

bluefinspirit Feb 2020
Frustrd1,
If you already gave them money, then you'll have to ask for it back. If they won't give it to you, and depending on how much it is, you may be able to sue in small claims court. Probably more hassle than you want at this point.

If you feel you can't leave without the money back, then don't even ask them for it. Stay status-quo and plan to leave in a month.

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FloridaDD Feb 2020
Not certain if this is up to date, but it appears that attendants/companions hired directly by an individual (not an agency) are not entitled to either federal or state minimum wage in Nevada.   If not entitled to minimum wage, I don't see why they cannot charge you for rent, but it should have been made clear at the get go.

https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/79th2017/ExhibitDocument/OpenExhibitDocument?exhibitId=32410&fileDownloadName=0503sb232c_locm.pdf

I note that you have recently been homeless and had sobriety issues.  I know that they are taking advantage of you, but you may have difficult choices.

Frustrd1 Feb 2020
What about my money, it's been only 4 days since this happened and most of them I was not home because of how upset it made me. But I just want $ back so I can leave and take care of my ID etc. I'm stuck without the money

ML4444 Feb 2020
You know...with such high demand for good caregivers, and the coming increase in need, there is no need to stick around for bs like this. Line up a new job, and move on. You seem to have faced adversity before...please do not allow people to use you like this. Best wishes.

worriedinCali Feb 2020
Actually in the United States, verbal
agreements are legal and enforceable, they are not worthless. That said, your employer can’t violate the agreement and you shouldn’t be charged rent.
cwillie Feb 2020
I expect even if it is technically a legal agreement it becomes a he said she said problem, how can you prove there was ever an agreement?
Midkid58 Feb 2020
I agree with C willie--a verbal agreement is worthless.

Even with family (ESP with family) a contract of some kind should be drawn up, even if you just do it at home on your own computer--and signed AND notarized, if possible.

It seems cruel and un-trusting to do so--but when things get dicey, and they often do, pull out the contract and use it.

Walk away if you have to. IMHO, dealing with family is harder than dealing with 'strangers'.

JoAnn29 Feb 2020
You need to call the Labor Board. Usually room and board are part of any agreement. And you get paid. You are doing these people a great service.

In hindsight it should have been put in writing. Actually, they should be taking out for SS and Fed taxes. With them matching the SS amount. I feel for you but don't allow them to take advantage of ur situation. We have had some posters that have become slaves to those they are caring for.

Good Luck and come back and tell us how it works out.
Katiekate Feb 2020
I had a gal go through this once....I tried to help her.
drove her to the labor board offices.

the denied her claim because she once (once) got some small amount of cash from them.

if she ever got anything except room and board...the labor board will not accept her claim.
Countrymouse Feb 2020
Looking at your brief profile note, it sounds as though you've been kicked just as you were trying to get up, is that about right?

Who is your care-for-rent agreement with? The person you look after, or somebody else? Have you managed to get a job besides the caregiving?

Katiekate Feb 2020
Whatever agreement you make...get it writing and signed by everyone.

cwillie Feb 2020
Verbal agreements are only as good as the paper they are written on - literally.... If the terms of your employment have been changed it is time for you to move on to something else.
BTW, most caregivers get PAID plus room and board.
needtowashhair Feb 2020
Verbal agreements are just as legally binding as written ones.

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