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wildpony Asked March 2015

Joint checking account - Brother trying to take it. Any advice?

My mom put me as a joint holder on her checking account years ago and she passed way last November. My brother strongly suggested I close the account and move the $$ to another one. I did this for that reason and also I live across the country and there was no bank branch near me. Now my brother is saying I stole the funds in the joint account I had with my mom. She didn't have a will and never stated that it was to be divided (which I going to do anyway even though my brother is being vindictive against all siblings because he thought he should've been given my mom's house). Do these funds have to be part of the probate? Can he sue me or something? In all my reading, once a joint holder died, the account becomes the other joint holders. Thanks!!!

igloo572 Aug 2015
Mom had no will right? Then she died interstate and most likeky you are going to have to do a lineal heirship rather than doing proate. You need an attorney to do them. An estate attorney with practice in county where she died or owed property is best to dal with a lineal. All heirs have to be accounted for, so someone within the family will need to pull this history together.

Intestate really very interdependent on your state laws. If the old bank account was not POD ( pay on death) or some other surviorship to you and you cleared it out, could be a problem.

Really think if there was a will? My experience is that lineal tends to favor either all equal or goes to the family members (whether good or bad) who live in the county where the court is.

Philis Aug 2015
" He threatened to torch the place."

Wow wish you had that recorded. I suggest you get a phone recorder for your phone, they have them for analog phones too. Try to figure out a way to get him to repeat it again if possible. Then never expose you have the recording until you are (if ever) called into court, immediately the case will be thrown out no doubt, prior to that you could probably get him charged with death threat as burning down a house would probably = a death threat if someone is living there.

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wildpony Mar 2015
Thank you for your input! I feel better about it now.

pamstegma Mar 2015
He is nuts. Don't even talk to him. Retain a lawyer and put the estate through the probate process. Listen to your lawyer and only YOUR lawyer as he guides you through this. The judge will divide the estate in accordance with your state probate laws.

geewiz Mar 2015
I have a different thought on this. There are different ways of 'titling' assets. There is a joint bank account where it is presumed that half belongs to each title holder. In that event, half would have been considered part of your Mom's estate. Alternatively, there is Joint with rights of survivorship (JTWROS) . In the latter, the surviving person owns the entire asset when the other one passes. I think you should go back and review the documents from the original account to determine if brother can pursue this.

vegaslady Mar 2015
No I think your bank account is yours, no problem. He's not just narcissistic he's crazy. Threatening arson is no joke and you should probably stay far away.

wildpony Mar 2015
I guess what I want to know is there a chance I will have to hire an attorney to defend this account? Thanks

wildpony Mar 2015
Thanks for your response! He's 49 and narcissistic. Not too long after mom died, he said he thought mom would want him to have the house and if we didn't give up our share, he would never talk to any of us again. AND he would tie this up in court and cost us a lot of money. He threatened to torch the place. He is distorting truths, he burned important documents and got rid of a lot of stuff (he lived in the house with his kids for decades...rent free!)

We are getting an independent administrator. This person won't seek to include this account in the estate, right? Because legally it is mine?

vegaslady Mar 2015
You are correct, that bank account became solely yours. With his attitude I wouldn't give him a penny. You didn't say how old he is. Could he be having some mental problems?

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