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SusanneB Asked September 2022

I got my 95 year old mother who had a severe stroke a co-op. The HHA's are abusive and neglectful. Any advice?

I got my Mother a coop. She has community medicaid so 24X7 HHAs. The only agency that I had have neglectful and abusive aides who do not change pamper or properly (so constant UTIs). They are not caring for her properly and she screams from the dementia. She cannot see or walk or feed herself. She is totally dependent. The Neurologist says she must get out of bed for her health and stimulation. Technically the HHAs on medicaid are not supposed to administer medication or use hoyer lift without 2 people. She does not qualify for Nursing Home Medicaid because I stupidly put her jointly of some of my savings accounts for FDIC insurance. It was NEVER ANY OF HER MONEY. She has no money. I do not know what to do???? I feel trapped and I am so burnt out from fighting with the lazy administrators in the PROGRAM she is in as well as the home care agency. She lives in an area where they are no available HHAs or very limited. Trying to get another agency but on one is responding. The last HHA I had a fight with (had not changed pamper all day and would not answer the phone in my Mother's home, so We Fought Over the CAMERA). She called the POLICE AND EMS and they put my mother in the HOSPITAL. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO. I got her a coop with my pension savings. ANY ADVICE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. She cannot give herself the medication. I do not have $360,000 a year for a NURSING HOME PRIVATE PAY??? CAN A LAWYER HELP ME IF I CAN PROVE IT WAS NOT HER MONEY??? I WAS REALLY STUPID!!!

babsjvd Sep 2022
Yes, in the long haul , financially, probably cheaper to see an elder law attorney for guidance.

Fawnby Sep 2022
Check with your bank because a couple of years ago my bank told me that either joint owner of a checking account could close the account.
AlvaDeer Sep 2022
There are ways to make it "both signatures required for withdrawal", but otherwsie, I think in most cases you are correct.

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lealonnie1 Sep 2022
****The original title of this post before it was altered was:  "I got my 95 year old mother who had a severe stroke a coop (IN MY NAME, SO IT IS PROTECTED)"****
gladimhere Sep 2022
Coop made no sense and what does that have to do with having a stroke? Moderators must have fixed it.
mstrbill Sep 2022
I'm sorry, nothing here is making sense, I'm so sorry. The nursing home Medicaid should be an easy fix, an elder attorney can take care of it. The 24/7 HHA's likely cost more than the NH, No? If they are not taking care of her properly you could contact APS I suppose, and they could look into it. She was in the hospital? The hospital I presume ensured she was released to a safe environment. Is she in the hospital now? If so make sure they don't release her to an unsafe situation. Don't accept her back home without proper care in place.

AlvaDeer Sep 2022
Generally you can remove the other person from your "joint" checking account if that account is under YOUR taxpayer ID number and you pay the taxes on the interest, claim the interest, write the checks, manage the account.
Check with your bank, if you have not already done so, to see if this is true for you.
As to finding good aids today no matter where they work, that is a question foremost in the minds of many.
I wish you good luck.

MargaretMcKen Sep 2022
From your profile: “I do not live with her and I cannot live there. I have dogs. They do not allow dogs”.
Which is more important to you – mother or your dogs?

lealonnie1 Sep 2022
You say, "I got my 95 year old mother who had a severe stroke a coop (IN MY NAME, SO IT IS PROTECTED)" suggesting that you used HER money to buy this co-op but put it in your name so Medicaid won't claw it back in repayment for the care they are paying for. Otherwise, if you used your own money, the co-op would automatically be protected b/c it belongs to YOU, not HER.

You then go on to say your mother has NO MONEY and you bought this co-op 'with my pension savings.'

And lastly, you say, " She does not qualify for Nursing Home Medicaid because I stupidly put her jointly of some of my savings accounts for FDIC insurance. It was NEVER ANY OF HER MONEY. She has no money." What does "FDIC insurance" have to do with the price of eggs?

It sounds to me like you're hiding your mother's assets in an effort to get her free Medicaid and now are at a loss b/c you don't like the quality (or lack of quality) of care that she's getting for free.

Is that accurate, or am I totally off base & missing something here? Apologies in advance if that is the case.

Definitely contact a Certified Elder Care Attorney who can guide you and help you figure your way out of this situation your mom is now in, provided there is a way out. Hopefully you've kept immaculate financial records of everything that's transpired all along with these purchases & bank accounts, etc.

Best of luck.
jar3431 Sep 2022
FDIC insurance covers losses in savings, checking, or CDs in banks that fail. The covered amount has been up to $250,000 per covered account since 2010. An individual is covered for one account in their own name, perhaps a second account with a POD beneficiary, maybe a third account for their living trust, and additional accounts in each additional joint ownership combination.

It isn't an issue for most people, since it is very unusual to keep more than $250,000 uninvested. If one has that much money, one wants it to make more money by being invested in the stock market, real estate, muni bonds, or something that has a chance of keeping up with inflation.

Occasionally, this becomes a concern when a house with a good amount of equity is sold, but it is really, really unlikely that a bank would actually fail.

Maybe the OP has $500.000 in the bank. Maybe $250,000 is in a joint account with Mom. Maybe she somehow qualified for community Medicaid that covers 24/7 in home services without anyone noticing "her" $125,000 half of the account.

It does seem like we are missing something here.
gladimhere Sep 2022
What is COOP?
lealonnie1 Sep 2022
A co-op which is an apartment/condo

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