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Stacy0122 Asked April 2021

"PC 626: Notice of Rights to Alleged Incapacitated Individual in Michigan Courts." Has anyone went through a jury trial for guardianship?

Under the advisement of a lawyer, to get my border out of the house, I am going for guardianship for placement in a facility.


The hallicinations, cameras, my lack of sleep, everything is driving me absolutely crazy. Monday morning, I had a panic attack for about an hour, my pulse was over 150 during that time, I thought I was dying. I have been wiped out since then and got a Covid second shot so I have felt horrible all week, have not left the house except for the shot.


So there is this court paper, PC 626: Notice of Rights to Alleged Incompacitated Individual in Michigan Courts, which states the person can get a trial by jury. Just plain idiotic in my opinion, bleeding hearts are out there.


Has anyone had Probate Court guardianship trial by jury? How did it go? Maybe I am looking at it wrong but it seems like it is not something you can win.

Stacy0122 Apr 2021
So Medicaid could not find 24/7 care for her in the home and the psychiatrist they hired said she was competent so Medicaid installed the cameras to fulfill the 24/7 care judge ruling. There are Ipad connected to them, one on the kitchen table and the other in M's room plus her movements generate a notification on phones.

I hired a lawyer from downstate, he said that because of her and Medicaid, she has no expectation of privacy. When the GAL showed up, cameras were on and this dipshit case manager RN and SW were there. They told her to go with trial by jury because her hallucinations are non violent. In the last week after telling Dr. she hadnt had a BM in 2 weeks and he put het on a drink, TWICE she thought her commode was a cat dish, dug her poo out to feed imaginary cats. Thats besides the fake family that lives with her and the calls to police over stolen money and FD to help her up who wont even come anymore, just call me or M because "it's a waste of resources."

Yes, the Case Manager and SW are encouraging trial by jury. As to the question of winning, I do not know. There are 12 people on a jury, does it not only take 1? You and I have been on this board long enough to know that some people do not believe placement is EVER nevessary.

AlvaDeer Apr 2021
Is G. going to ask for trial by jury? I doubt she would WIN, don't you? After she is on the stand don't you think that a jury would say that you should be guardian? Is S. and M. not fighting this "guardianship by you"? Don't one of them have POA for G.? As far as the cameras, why do you need those? I forget. If it is just for her safety is there a reason you need them. I don't see an unwanted border having a right to "safety measures".
We all almost always DO tell OPs that it is very very difficult to get guardianship over someone if they fight it. And that it can cost upwards of 10,000. What a mess, huh?

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GardenArtist Apr 2021
Stacy, my only experience with guardianships was at law firms for which I worked.  But I did a quick bit of research  but didn't download the form you cite, even though I was kind of curious.     I checked my county and learned that it's a "Form(s) for Guardian ad Litem to give to Alleged Incapacitated Individual" (which you probably already knew) apparently as part of starting a guardianship proceeding.    But you're not a GAL for this individual, are you?

I have mixed feelings on a jury trial for a guardianship proceeding; I can see the benefit if someone is attempting to create a guardianship for less than honest reasons, such as exploiting someone for financial reasons, but I think it could also be costly, especially if the costs are borne by the individual attempting to get a guardianship.

I assume you can't evict him b/c of the hold on evictions b/c of the pandemic?

I'm going to check it out more tomorrow; my curiosity is aroused.

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