Good question. If any company needs access to your credit report then yes, you would need to lift the freeze. But realistically how often does that happen? So for me, it's worth it.
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You can lift the freeze (my understanding is that you can lift the freeze for a particular time frame or a particular party - ie phone company).
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Harpcat : well , would a freeze on a credit report stop you from getting a new phone ? if they run a check ?
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I wanted to be certain you know that I'm not talking about a fraud alert. I'm talking about placing a "freeze" on your credit report. Big difference. A freeze means your credit report can not be pulled by anyone unless you lift it. Since we don't apply for credit cards or don't plan on needing a new car or mortgage any time soon I've frozen both my and my husband's and my fathers. Depending on what state you live in, they may or may not charge you. In OK if over 65 there is no charge to place or lift the freeze. I had to pay $10 but that was money well spent compared to the nightmare of ID theft. Here is a link to the article I was referring to in my first post. krebsonsecurity/2015/06/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-embrace-the-security-freeze/
Making an account with the IRS costs nothing and prevents someone else from doing so and pretending they are you. This is getting more common. So just a forewarning.
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Good news that the Motion to Dismiss was denied! That should be encouraging to you.
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This is a very timely article, particularly given the recent data breaches of medical information.

This happened several years ago when a major hospital in our area allowed someone to use a stolen BCBSM card of my sister's. I had notified BCBSM after her death so her insurance was cancelled. But the hospital never verified that the fraudster wasn't covered. Of course BCBSM denied the charges.

On another occasion, this same character gave my father's address as his own. But the more annoying aspect was the bills sent to my father - bills for up to over $10,000 in medical charges. My father didn't need to be upset by the incompetence of hospital management and its policies.

When I contacted the hospital, controlling the contempt and disgust I felt for it for not verifying the address of the patient, I was told that since the hospital accepted indigent patients and was serving a greater community good, it would provide service one way or another.

It didn't make any difference if the patient did or didn't have valid insurance. So they didn't verify insurance coverage. Nor did they verify addresses given by patients.

Those dummies continued to allow this fraudster to rack up medical charges without even verifying anything.

To say that it was difficult to believe this stupidity and irresponsibility is an understatement.

We NEVER would seek any treatment from that hospital - who wants to deal with one with such an irresponsible attitude?


One of the concerns I've had as well is when a hospital gets on the Patient Portal bandwagon and asks patients if they want to view their medical records online. It would be helpful as opposed to ordering and paying for medical records, then waiting for a month as was the case the last time I ordered a copy for an emergency visit.

But the issue I raised when asked to participate was what level of security does the hospital actually have? The woman encouraging participation had no idea.

When a doctor I recently saw at a private practice suggested the same thing, I asked the same question. Response: embarrassed sort of grin and change of subject.

Businesses can spend millions if not more protecting data. Are hospitals, even those that are for profit, prepared to do the same thing?


Harpcat, fraud alerts can be filed every 90 days with one of the credit bureau reporting companies. I've done that since the first instance of credit card fraud years ago.


Ceasna, your first contact should be to the police. If you want to file a lawsuit, you can either search for one handling white collar fraud cases, or with the court clerk of what would be a circuit court in my area.

Ask if the court has online civil actions which you can search to find the name of the attorney(s) who filed suits on have of the other 5 people. Michigan used to and probably still does use a 2 letter category as the prefix for various types of civil suits. You would then use the search parameters of the court's online files to find white collar fraud suits against that hospital.

You can then contact that attorney to file a suit for you. Or you can do research through the Alabama state bar directories for attorneys handling white collar fraud. Review their websites to determine how much experience they have, and contact them to get information filing a suit.

I just googled Flowers Hospital, fraud breach and learned that there is a class action suit against the hospital:

google/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Flowers+Hospital+%2C+Dothan+Al+fraud+breach..

Do some research on these hits and decide if you want to be a party plaintiff in a class action suit, depending on whether or not the attorneys are still accepting new plaintiffs. Sometimes these larger, higher publicized suits might bring you a better chance of recovery than an individual suit.

Be sure to read the hit about the hospital claiming people who were subject to filing of fraudulent tax returns can't sue. It'll give you a good insight into the hospital's stance on remediating security breaches.

Good luck.
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One thing I've read which was recommended by a cyber security expert is to place a freeze on all your records at the 3 credit reporting agencies. This keeps criminals from using your identity to get loans etc. also create an account on IRS.gov so that a criminal can't use your ID to create one and then file tax returns in your name. These are things we can do to safeguard our ID and money.
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good article , my id was stolen at flowers hospital by an employee named Milender , how is in prison for the theft , he stole many many medical records and sold them , they were used (ID), to make false income tax returns , . Flowers Hospital , Dothan Al. should be held accountable for this crime , any help , lawyer help would be appreciated , all info is available . proof is in the bag , 5 other people have a lawsuit against flowers hospital , what do you think i can do are go about it ? thank you, hope to hear !
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