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Senior's senior lady friend can't stand his family. He fears a break up and depression seems to be setting in.


She's always treated with respect and as family at various events. The women is very demeaning, snobbish & paranoid. She has medical issues which everyone understands and is very accommodating. But she literally now wants more personal attention including formal invitations from holders of events. She says the lack of personalized invitations shows the family doesn't care about her. She's so paranoid now that if she hears something in the background she assumes people are talking negatively about her and demands to know who, why and what. She gets upset if you have a different opinion. She cannot let anything go devouring hours on one single topic, issue or single word that was uttered.


She's constantly blaming others for anything, it's never her fault. She's drops pen she's blaming the manufacture of not only the pen but the table it was sitting on. And yet the same family she thinks hates her has helped her and given a lot of their time to help her with various tasks, projects, information etc. She's a technological idiot (she says it's unfair how complicated they made flip phones). It took her a decade to realize the X on the computer screen was to close the page. Yet her 60 year old liberal arts degree makes her the smartest in the room.


I can go on and on but the senior really seems depressed especially after he talks to her. And he does very little talking, he literally sits there tolerating her lectures. Even he tires of her sometimes but he wants the relationship to work. I want to get him involved with new groups and people but he seems unmotivated. I can't force him to go places but how would I encourage new activities and people?


Thanks for your time and considerations.

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What makes you think they are going to break up? Has she been dropping hints? She sounds like a real charmer, and also like she has medical issues. It is kind of your family to make allowances for that.

Does he like to play cards? Most senior centers have both scheduled and impromptu card games every day. Could you or some family member go with him a time or two?

Can you locate a senior bowling league?
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I assume you're not a family member, but rather a caregiver, or concerned friend?

I think getting him involved with others, gradually and then more consistently, will help him find substitute companions.

Sometimes it's easier for people to just be quiet and put up with a demanding person than refocus and find new friends. Help him along on this project. Accompany him, introduce him, if it's appropriate. If he widens his circle of friends, including women, he might become less dependent on her and less tolerant of her rants.

BTW, from the way you've described her social outlook, I get the impression she's in an active social circle, perhaps on a "high society" level. If this is correct, it might explain some of her snobbishness.

To get a formal invitation these days is probably not likely to happen; people do so much through tech devices.

I would also reconsider criticizing her for her lack of technical expertise. Maybe she's threatened by the new knowledge. At any rate, there's no national mandate that everyone use tech devices.
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"It's been all about her lately." And there you have it. It's not unusual for this to happen to seniors, or even caregivers, but when there's an expectation of social standing factored in, it segues into something else, too much self focus is perhaps a kind way of putting it.
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Thank you for understanding that my post was not meant to insult or judge. Honestly, my uncle and aunt were married for over 60 years and my aunt was absolutely the boss of that relationship. For his sake, we tolerated my aunt’s know-it-all attitude. She really was a kind person, and push come to shove, she would have gone to the mat for my uncle. Even if you don’t share your opinions of this lady with your senior gentleman, I’m certain there is no doubt how you all feel. He may feel it’s just easier to let his relationship fade away. In any case, my best to him, however this ends.
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Some of what you're saying about her behavior sounds like cognitive decline. The paranoia, repeating stories from the past, the inability to grasp new ideas with technology (although many people in her age group have that issue as well). In any event, she sounds like a sad but annoying person to be around. Like Sunset Boulevard of the gentrified set (for those of us oldies who like black & white movies).

Does your senior friend have any guy friends who could get him to the senior center? Men are at a premium at those places (I worked for a year at a non-profit housed in a senior center). For example, they had a speed dating event at our center and there were about 60 women and maybe 6 men who attended. So the guys would have had their pick of eligible women.

Was this senior involved before in a relationship where the woman was the center of attention? I find that people choose the same kind of partner again and again, whether it's healthy for them or not. So if she goes, he may find someone else similar to her.
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Ah, the socialite who wants ordinary common people to cede to her social standing and pamper her. Thanks for the expo.

I personally have some bias against these type of people; I don't know many and prefer to keep it that way. My family are working class folks; I'm not sympathetic to the wealthy folks.

I wonder if she's been watching too much Downton Abbey and expects people to treat her as landed gentry?

Wish I had some suggestions, but I find people like that intolerable. I do think you're considerate though to be concerned about the man involved. I wonder....do you think he realizes what a social climber she is, and do you think he's become tired of her and her need for the attention she might have had years ago? Maybe he's even ready to move on?

I think this woman is trying to recreate the aura she had when she moved in wealthy circles, and is affronted, and her personal self image is compromised.
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I’m going to ask for your indulgence right now. I am going to play Devil’s Advocate here for a minute. To me, in my mid 60’s, 75 years old doesn’t seem that old. Certainly not so old that one cannot choose whom to keep company with and pay the consequences if it doesn’t work out. Perhaps this gentleman who is said to be fit and aware of himself and his surroundings, just wishes to be left alone to make his own mistakes (or not). I have the funny feeling he is well-aware of his ladyfriend’s behavior and misbehavior. Perhaps his wish is that everyone get his relationship out from under their microscopes and leave him alone. Perhaps he’s quiet when in public with her because he’s afraid if he opened his mouth, he’d tell everyone to go to Hades. Maybe he seems depressed because he knows how everyone feels about her and now he feels like a silly, old fool for just wanting some companionship. He chose to enter into a relationship with her and I’m sure he wasn’t planning on having to have her run the many gauntlets of disapproval. Maybe he feels he doesn’t need anyone to guard-dog him, because surely, at the age of 75, he’s not a newbie to tricky relationships.

We get quite a few posters here who say their loved ones are in relationships with shady characters who try to rob them blind, abuse them and even refuse the family access to them. It sounds like this lady is a real character who, if she makes this gent happy, should just be tolerated for his sake. I doubt seriously if there is any chance she can be changed to conform to others ideas of how she should act. We’ve all known people who flaunt their educations, places in Society, and finances in our faces. All that’s usually required from us is a pained smile, an annoyed clearing of the throat and the changing of the subject. Leave him alone to make his own mistakes. If the lady friend disappears from his picture, let her fade from your picture too. Don’t show your relief to him. I’m sure, since he doesn’t seem feeble in body or mind, he will soldier on without being reminded of what a trial she was to everyone she encountered.
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jeannegibbs May 2018
Ahmijoy, I'll join you and the devil. At 73 I think I can pick my own friends and deal with the consequences. But biztap is not asking how to get him to change friends, he/she is concerned about his apparent depression at the end of the relationship. I have major depressive disorder, well controlled at the moment. If someone among my close friends (including relatives who are close friends) senses I've been "down" for a while I really appreciate their attempts to break into my isolating myself.

I think if it is not inappropriately intrusive, encouraging a friend to participate in activities (and maybe meet new people) is generally a good thing!
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You are right about her social circles and does come from some money/an expensive zip code which she vehemently denies(family owned boat, a small single engine plane among other things). But she hasn't been part of them for decades(or century). Apparently she took a non business path after college. She hasn't been 'active' but apparently does keep in contact with various people.

The tech issues well she was one of the first to get a home computer in the 1990s(not cheap then) and always bragged or talked about all the 'work' they did on a the computer-oh I have to go do work on the computer. We eventually found out when helping her with various tech issues a sibling and neighbors at the time coached & walked her through ALOT, I mean alot. She was a tech poser. The internet(which she really doesn't get yet) is one of her biggest forms of communication, it's not something she dabbles in. She refuses to do things like log off fearing losing one of her 10,000 emails she doesn't need will be deleted. She's the one who talks about all the emails, videos and stuff she does on the computer. We constantly get calls from strange numbers many of which are her borrowing/using someone else's phone yet she boasts about how independent she is. Problem is she's been given so much extra courtesy and help over the years because of her medical issues now her age she can't handle not getting that extra special treatment and patience where non is required.
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jeannegibbs May 2018
Hey, I don't get the internet either. Nice big invisible magic box. And my career was in Information Systems! I don't get how a combustion engine works, either, but I drive. In my defense, though, I don't pretend to know more than I do. :-)
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Funny you mention Downton Abbey because they used to meet up to watch it. Also over the last several years she has gotten very retrospective telling the same stories from past. It's like she legacy building or something. It's been all about her lately.

Not one was never thrilled with her but tolerated/accepted her at all family functions, every one. Never had to squeeze her in at the dinning table because she was always accounted for and expected to come. Her siblings aren't like her. They have certain views or opinions but that's where it stops, it doesn't carry over, they aren't 'triggered' or go into diatribes etc.

The senior is over 75 and I guess feels too old to move on or be social although capable. I think he's beginning to see the light because it was he who talked about her attitude and opinions.
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GardenArtist-'too much self focus'-absolutely What gets me if you are talking and she can't hear at an event or hears background talk while on the phone she automatically assumes it's about her and demands, repeat demands to know who said what.

Ahmijoy , you're right we shouldn't and don't force our opinion of her although he expresses disappointment that we don't have the same enthusiasm. He says he gets it but still he over tolerates her which enables her behavior. When on the phone it's obviously a one sided conversation with most of his time talking saying uh-huh, ok, yes, no and let me speak! I kid you not.

He did show grip of reality by saying unsolicited he doesn't think they'll be seeing much of each other anymore. There are secondary issues that could make that messy but if she is out of the picture here I will give a big YES! with a fist pump.

Thank You all for an ear or eyeballs actually along with your input.
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