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Having you present 24/7/365 works for her. Your household has an established way of doing things, which supports her desire to do nothing. Have you considered getting rid of the television she is parked in front of to watch??, She has an obese deadly routine that takes a very long time to establish, so she doesn't want to change anything. I had to remove ALL televisions from my home; it was amazing how quickly things changed, no more anger, depression or endless days sitting watching a box.

She refuses to walk, and obtains food somehow; how is she obtaining that edema enhancing stuff??? Based on your post, she is exercising whatever control she's permitted. It sounds as if nobody is capable of hoisting her upright onto her feet. So because she is allowed, she will continue to behave in that unhealthy manner, until she dies. You're in a catch-22. Go on that vacation, while vacationing, don't directly contact her. Have you considered a nursing home, which might better be equipped to address the edema, and her refusal to move?
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Of course she does not want you to go. You both have a routine that she is used to and she doesn't want change. Go on the trip and enjoy your time.

Since she is already doing things that will flare up her issues, (and her mind is good) just tell her and the son who agreed to help her - if you continue with these things and it gets out of control, Son will be calling an ambulance to get it back under control.

The other conversation is for every day living: She must put her legs up to relieve the fluid build up. She must start walking a set number of times per day. If she's not doing all that much walking, someone else is bringing her the salty food and the excess fluids she drinks. Stop. Find her no salt snacks and retrieve those for her. Get one of those hospital water cups with measurement/lid/straw - show her how much per day she will drink by the measurements. Point blank ask her why she does these things when they will kill her or land her in a nursing home where she clearly does not want to be. Explain that you will not help her kill herself and that when she reaches a point she cannot walk at all, home caregiving is going out the window. Look for alternative snacks (because everyone wants a little something during the day) and push the excercise. (You might take her to dr before you leave and see if he will Rx home health OT/PT care a few times a week to mitigate the swelling)
Have fun on your trip - just make it clear to stay home son to call ambulance if she creates more health problems. Deal w/that when you get back.
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Go on your trip with your very thoughtful son. Enjoy every minute so you'll have fond memories to recall on the hard days. If anything were to happen to your mom, it sounds like you have very capable people to deal with it. Call and check in on her if it eases your mind but don't let her ruin your vacation with guilt. You have absolutely nothing to feel guilty about. You more than deserve a break.
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Yes - You still go - unless you're looking for an excuse not to go away.
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Go on your trip it's paid for already enjoy you need it your son and sister is there don't worry about anything.
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It's now June, so I hope and trust your plans go through. How your son must look forward to seeing his generosity rewarded! The mom is v.v. smart and sounds well-supported, so she's not hurting in any way except that she's hurting herself. I hear you on her being "non-compliant" as the VA calls Spouse re eating, smoking, and drinking. It's hard to see and oh my, those ambulance visits every so often I remember well from Step-Dad's COPD requiring my mom to bewail his non-stop smoking despite it all. He'd sit on their front porch awaiting the ambulance, smoking.
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Without reading all the responses I will just tell you my experiences. First of all take your vacation! My friend was in Skilled Care for 2 1/2 years and I would run(!) to my home in FL every 2-3 months for a week. I was a 7 day caregiver for him even in SC. 7 hours a day so I needed a break every so often. I saw this in many people there. The residents all have a sixth sense about when you a planning to go away. And they all seem to go down hill just before you go. That’s part of their makeup. So go and have fun. Just remember if some thing did happen while you were gone, then it was her time and there is nothing that you can do about it. Also remember be proud of what you have done for the last years of her life and be at peace with your self. Meanwhile, put a nickel in a machine for me!
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"We'll do what the doctors think best?"

Your mother eats crap and retains water and makes herself ill? And then if a doc says "you know, she could go any time" you'll cancel your trip?

For 4.5 years, we were all aware that my mom, with CHF and a bunch of other comorbidities, could go at any time. I treated each visit as though it might be the last. If she had died when I was in Paris, in Florence, in Maine or in Florida (she was in Connecticut) I would not have felt a shred of guilt.

My mom was in a NH because she was sick enough that she needed professional care and a diet managed by dieticians (it sounds as though your mom would be better suited there as well).

I think it's very much time for you to give some serious consideration to the stress that your mother's care is causing your family.

Maybe I sound mean to you, but this was the ethos that my mom brought us up with...we don't do deathbeds ( at least not rushing to them dramatically, or cancelling plans). We care everyday in a way that leaves us no guilt.
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Stressed123456 Jun 2019
The last person who should make her decision is the doctor., they are not skipping vacas
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Wow! I am so grateful for the outpouring of support I've received from this site. I know each and every one of you have been in, or are currently in a similar position as I am. I thank you all from the bottom of my heart. I am going to go and have fun and I pray that everyone reading this can also do something for themselves even if it's just a small thing. You are all wonderful caring and compassionate people to do what you do. Don't ever forget that. ❤❤
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Maryjann Jun 2019
As others have said, I hope you have a good time. Money spent on a well-deserved vacation is NOT wasted!
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Yes. Go. Your sister saud she'll keep an eye out on her. Your one son says he'll care for her. Her welfare is covered. If something happends they are capable of getting her the care she needs. Or..put her in respite care. Either is good. If you do not go you will be needing care sooner than lately yourself. Your Mom trusts you and feels safest with you, but....you've heard it before....you cannot take care of others if you don't take care of yourself. It's not selfish to do so.
Have a great time. Bless both your sons and your sister.
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Go! You are a separate person from her and have your own needs to be met and life to live! Tell her that no from her is no longer an answer for she needs to make her mind up about which good option to do. Her son does not need to be taking care of his mom. Also, she's using her masters in social work against you. Stop being manipulated!
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Go! You are a separate person from her and have your own needs to be met and life to live! Tell her that no from her is no longer an answer for she needs to make her mind up about which good option to do. Her son does not need to be taking care of his mom.
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Don't let her sabotage your trip.
Of course she doesn't want you to go.
Her fear is talking. Understandably.
You can be compassionate and set boundaries (= enjoy yourself!)
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Absolutely by all means go. She has people that will keep an eye on her and if she needs to go to the hospital they will take care of that too . She knows the drill if she has to go in to get stabilized. You need this time for you, in order to be able to continue caring for her.
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AndreaE,

AFTER you come back from your vacation, talk to all of us on here about what you did, what shows, etc. and how much fun you had, so we can be your support! From the sound of it, your mother won't care and would probably be very negative about it. Hold onto your enjoyment inside and share with all of us!!!
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Murphy24 Jun 2019
Here here! I love you post!!
AndreaE- go on your trip!
Have a wonderful time. Take in everything, eat delicious food, rest, and don’t take any stress with you!! Praying for a blessed and care-free trip for you, with ZERO guilt and worry! :D
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We were in your position recently. We went! We wrote up instructions for caregivers and for mom and dad. If they had any issues they were to call BIL. We blocked their calls. BIL lives in a Virginia, we live In texas. We told them if they couldn’t find something ask the aid that was with them. If they had other issues, call BIL. Oldest son was back up for if something needed to be done here, he would take care of it. We were gone for 7 days and it was wonderful!!!!! We did not call to check on them. We trusted that if they needed us my BIL or son would call us. It gave us a much needed respite and the sun/sand were healing to the soul!
GO! Block her number on your phone. Put your sister in charge. If she has to go to the hospital, let sister handle it.
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AndreaE Jun 2019
Thanks! That is exactly what I have done too. I hope I have as much fun as you did. 🙂🙂
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You need go on your Vacation (no if ands or buts)
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FIRST...quit telling your mother about how you feel and what you are going to do.

SECOND...Remain cool, without emotion and with "a matter of fact" attitude, calmy remind her that she knows what she has to do to maintain her health as best possible. That if she does contrary then she will just have to be transported by ambulance to the hospital...again!

THIRD...It's important that you take your week vacation. You need it. Strange as it may sound, so does your mother.
Your sister can call an ambulance if need be. But I think your mother will give serious thought and be just fine.
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GO!
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The answer is she should go into respite. If she won't or can't get well enough for you to comfortably leave her in the care of your son, she should go into respite care while you're away. Hopefully, respite will allow for her to be well when you get back. You don't need to be handling an emergency the moment you return. In fact, I would suggest you keep her in respite for a couple days more after your return. Your son's assignment will be to visit her daily while she is there.
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Of coarse you go, don't let her manipulate you. Let your sister take over, she will handle the situation. Guilt is a self imposed emotion, don't go down that path. Enjoy your vacation with your son, it is so nice of him to pay for this vacation!
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GO! In casual conversation ask your mom what would do if YOU died? Stress kills.
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You should definitely go, you need a break and it OK to have one. Your son offered to watch her and he is an adult he is more than capable. Maybe you sister could actually come to visit. It's normal to be upset and guilty. It sounds like you have good support. Trust them. Enjoy yourself.
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Respite home is the answer. And it is not a question for her. It is a "This is what must be done". I would be frank with her that her lungs filling along with her legs means both left and right heart failure. The lungs could fill at once, called Flash Pulmonary Edema, and it can be a killer. She needs the care and watching and you need the time away, and that is that. I would put it gently but firmly. Do know that anything could happen to your Mom at any time whether or not you go. It is not a matter of You Deserve this. It is a matter of you NEED it to go on and she NEEDS the watching medically. Her pump is giving out. Other than the intravenous medications you describe there is now nothing to be done but keep the lungs clear as you can. Good luck. Remember. Gently, but not questioning. Simply stating that this is how it will be, and if not this, she must consider entering care, for without a brief respite yourself, you cannot continue. Honesty is the best answer.
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Good advise. Yes, respite care.
Be calm and honest. She knows!
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Go! If you don't, you're abandoning yourself and your son and reinforcing your mother's manipulativeness.
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GO!
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Yes, please go. I have an 94yo aunt that I care for that does the same sort of manipulation to me. Always trying to run a guilt trip. She would be happy if I gave up my entire life just to dote over her. Go, do not second guess yourself. Also, I agree with Sofia...what wonderful sons you have...the one who arranged the trip and the one willing to look after your mom while you’re gone. Enjoy yourself.
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AndreaE Jun 2019
Thank you for your reply. Yes I have terrific sons and they also deal with this stress on a daily basis. It's hard at times but we all love her. I just need a break and I'm going to go for sure. We have a couple of drs appointments today and I will do whatever the drs think is best.
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Of course you go. Your mother sounds as if she could be twins with my mother. You go & if she crashes, then your son calls 911 and they put her in the hospital....then he gets a break from her too for a few days. I fully understand how much you yearn for a break from her yet at the same time, feel guilty about it. That's her manipulating you. I have all the sympathy in the world for people who are not well but they strive to get better and stay better. I have little sympathy for those (like my mother) who appear to stay ill because it (a) gets them constant attention and (b) allows them to manipulate their family. I realize there are people reading this who have never had to deal with a manipulative personality & they are probably aghast at my even insinuating that some people stay ill on purpose...but they need to count their blessings because there are people who will make themselves ill and keep themselves ill on purpose. Especially if they think their immediate family members are enjoying life without their permission or direction. My mother is staying with my son right now because she "fell". I find it curious that she was fine until she found out that (a) my son had out of state company for Memorial Day & she wasn't invited over - even thought she didn't even know these people, & (b) she found out that my son was going on a vacation the next week. She is now refusing to eat, drink, shower or move about. She will develop a UTI and her sugar will crash (This is not my first rodeo with her). Then she'll be in the hospital and that's what she wants. She has called 911 twice in 2 days & they wouldn't admit her & she's furious. My mother knew that my son was supposed to go on a much deserved (& needed) vacation the day after my mother "fell". Please do not fall for your mother's manipulations. I know that's easier said than done, but please do not allow your mother to ruin the rest of your life. I'm actively searching for a nursing home for my mother. She is mean & ugly to the only people in the world who will take her in & care for her. I don't ask for a lot, but I do expect just a little respect & gratitude. I apologize for taking space to tell you about my mother, but I did it so that you would know that you are not alone in your situation. I think some people (especially women) suffer from a huge void when they find themselves old & unneeded. They have spent their lives caring for husbands & children (sometimes even grandchildren). They have spent their lives fixing problems for their family & being needed. Then one day they wake up old, single, kids (& grandkids) grown....unneeded. They appear to confuse unneeded with unloved. During their lives they neglected to make good friendships & hobbies so now they're bored, alone & desperate. Rather than trying to entertain themselves, they choose to manipulate their family so their kids/grandkids are forced to provide them entertainment & attention. I have an understanding of the situation but it doesn't mean that I have to like the situation or allow my mother to ruin whatever is left of my life & cause my grown children to be at her beck and call. I'm completely sympathetic for her situation, but it is of her own making. Unfortunately, we all reap what we sow. One day, I'll reap the seeds that I have sown. I just pray I'm better prepared for that day. Good luck to you and to your kids. Please remember that you did nothing to put your mother in her current situation. It's not your fault & as such you are not obligated to pay the cost of your mother's choices/actions. Loving someone does not mean you are obligated to allow that person to manipulate, disrespect and/or abuse you. Your mother (& mine) should be thankful that they have family who will take care of them rather than feel that their family HAS to take care of them...because we don't. Let's have a tiny bit of gratitude once in awhile. That's all we ask.
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AndreaE Jun 2019
Yes I do understand this completely! We have argued over it so many times and I tell her that if she didnt have me she would be all alone in a nursing home. I'm sorry your mom ruined your son's vacation. I hope you find a place that she can enjoy and be well cared for. You and your kids deserve a life too. Sending prayers your way. ❤❤
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Yes! Go and have a lovely time with your son. Hire some home health nurse to come check on your mom and don't worry about things while you are gone. (Yes, I know....easier said than done.) I've cancelled many vacations while my mom was alive and I absolutely regret it.
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AndreaE Jun 2019
Home health nurses and physical therapy have been started and will check in while I'm gone. It's such a great resource. Thanks for the reply. 🙂
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Posting before reading...clearly you have touched so many here...Count me in on the GO side. At first as I read I wondered if maybe she was afraid of dying alone or without you...but what are the odds? She could clearly have another crisis...but you know the pattern...so someone will call and she'll go to the hospital and be well looked after there or at home. My worry would be you will have such a good time and be so relaxed it will be a crash of a re-entry when back in your caregiving role. I don't know how you do it...well, I do...but it is SO hard, and then you throw in the mom-daughter BS. Would hospice be of any help? Or I'm guessing because it may be, she'd reject it? You're very lucky, as you probably know, to have so many who will watch or check in...I hope you have a wonderful time. And heck, she said she didn't need a babysitter...So you could set up meals on wheels, or a restaurant delivery, and maybe an emergency alert button, and get a knox box for the house so the fire dept doesn't have to break any windows/doors...and GO!
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AndreaE Jun 2019
Thank you! I have a great son who lives to cook and we have come up with a very simple meal plan for each day. I have tried to cover all of the basis so the rest is up to fate and everyone is prepared to handle what may come up. I have also been thinking how hard it will he to return but just having 5 days away is godsend. Sunday can't come soon enough lol.
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