I've done background checks, there isn't any relation between these people that I can find. I think this guy is trying to scam her. He says he has power of attorney but hasn't produced it after being asked several times. What can I do?
I would contact the area agency on Aging and speak to the protective services division. Tell them the situation and ask how to protect your client from financial abuse. Does your client have any legal documents regarding a power of attorney, advance directives, etc.? If not, is she capable of executing these documents? Your client is lucky to have an upstanding person in you as her caregiver!
I'd question the POA even if he can produce it. I have POA for my mom. I haven't had to use it, but I called the attorney who set it up with her trust, to ask for a copy, and he drafted a new one. It's exactly the same but the forms have changed since she set it up. He said that even though the old one is perfectly legit, I'd have hard time getting anyone to honor a document from 2008.
I think I would go to the police and voice your concerns; I would go to the local Office on Aging in your county and ask for help; and I think I would contact an attorney. This sounds very bad to me - you need help at once. Are there other family members you can talk to. Does this woman have a lot of assets? Who is in charge of her now? Who is her POA (other than what he says she is). No proof - something is very, very wrong. What is your relationship to her. Please seek help at once. I speak from experience of many years ago when I had a problem with someone who was "allegedly" helping my friend but it turned into a nightmare. Be very careful.
I I would immediately call the Bureau of aging and contact them and tell them the situation this guy is liable to go and get a power of attorney and does not even know this lady good luck
Do you work private for her or through an agency? If an agency, tell them immediately what is happening. Contact the person who pays you. Does lady have her marbles?Did he have keys to house or did he ring bell & you let him in without knowing who he was? Does the lady recognize him? Can you take a picture of him (at door if you didn’t let him in) & ask lady if she knows who he is? I would call police if you are suspicious about a scam. You can also contact Elder abuse agency. (APS)...Don’t ignore this...it stinks from a snake... Hugs 🤗
The man I help, Richard, has a "daughter" who is no relation. His first wife gave up a baby girl for adoption before she ever met Richard, 18 years later "Shelly" shows up, stating she tracked her mom down and wants a relationship. Richard is the kind of guy that will give you not only his shirt but his wallet, pants and even underwear if you asked. He accepted shelly and now 20 years on, his first wife passed due to brain cancer, but shelly still calls him, her kids call him "Papa Richard" and to all intents and purposes she is treated the same as his adopted son, two biological sons, and the stepson from his second marriage. It could be there is some sort of tenuous connection of that sort. Still, be very wary of this guy. Get Adult services in on it.
Kevever, who is the they that changed the emergency contact at the hospital to them instead of you?
This would indicate that "they" were able to provide legal proof to the hospital. Have you asked for a copy since it affects your long standpoint as the emergency contact?
Does she know him...or rather...did she know him by name when he arrived? Does she have any pictures of a son? Does she have any family that you can call or did she hire you on her own?
Until he can prove who he is, notify the police. Ask them to give him a no trespass until his relationship is sorted out. The police may be able to run his record for you to determine who he is. Surely, he has a birth certificate that would show her name on it.If he does produce a power of attorney, I would find out who wrote it up and/or witnessed it. If police won't do any digging for you, call adult protective services and ask them to help you verify who he is. This needs to be cleared up quickly.
No one can come in due to the stay-at-home orders.
I hesitate to imagine any more answers for you, Kevever. Your post has remained vague, and basically, as a caregiver, you have no rights to keep this woman from her family.
You have not explained if there is more of a relationship between the two of you, how you are being paid by her, and if you are 'in charge' of her finances. As a caregiver, you could be just 'let go' by 'they', whoever 'they' are, with power of attorney.
Do you have a vested interest in keeping things as they are, because you are a 'live-in' caregiver?
Would it be at all possible for you to take a different tack and attempt to facilitate a relationship with this lady's family? If they are family?
"They" might be feeling suspicious of your presence also.
However, if I ever required protection from wayward family, it would be nice to have someone like you as the gatekeeper.
For all who are saying I've been vague in my post I'm sorry . Things are no better today . I received a call from this man demanding to know how I found out where they took her upon her release from the hospital. The answer was simple . The care center called me because these ppl didn't have the answers to some of the questions they have about my friend I've been caring for. I have reported all this to the police . I'm waiting for someone to come speak to me about it all now. Mean while this guy is now saying he will call the police and adult protective services on me . I told him to do that because I've nothing to hide. But I don't understand why he won't let me see a copy of this POA he says he has. I would definitely be thankful and have no problem showing this to the person who has been looking after my mother . His logic makes zero sense to me. I will keep every one posted as things move forward.
Who is "they" in they took POA when she was in the hospital. Where were you? She has dementia and someone allowed her to complete a new POA? "They visited her in hospital?
Depending on where you live... There is a process in caring for the elderly or someone who is not capable of caring for themselves. If you are not a family member and she is not capable of making decisions for herself, you will need to be appointed as her Guardian. This is a long process and they do background checks on you. You also will be required to do training and will have to do quarterly reports. This will keep her and you safe. If this person keeps insisting on coming over or threatens you in anyway you are to call the police each and every time. Call the area on Aging, or AARP free lawyer services and tell them what is going on. You need to involve the court system ASAP. If these people are family they should have no problem proving it through a legal mediator. Your job is to protect her from all harm. If she were my mother I would appreciate someone who cared enough to want to make sure she will be safe. God is watching, do the right thing. Protect your friend, but do it legally.
God bless!!
Hugs 🤗
This would indicate that "they" were able to provide legal proof to the hospital. Have you asked for a copy since it affects your long standpoint as the emergency contact?
Until he can prove who he is, notify the police. Ask them to give him a no trespass until his relationship is sorted out. The police may be able to run his record for you to determine who he is. Surely, he has a birth certificate that would show her name on it.If he does produce a power of attorney, I would find out who wrote it up and/or witnessed it. If police won't do any digging for you, call adult protective services and ask them to help you verify who he is. This needs to be cleared up quickly.
I hesitate to imagine any more answers for you, Kevever. Your post has remained vague, and basically, as a caregiver, you have no
rights to keep this woman from her family.
You have not explained if there is more of a relationship between the two of you, how you are being paid by her, and if you are 'in charge' of her finances. As a caregiver, you could be just 'let go' by 'they', whoever 'they' are, with power of attorney.
Do you have a vested interest in keeping things as they are, because you are a 'live-in' caregiver?
Would it be at all possible for you to take a different tack and attempt to facilitate a relationship with this lady's family? If they are family?
"They" might be feeling suspicious of your presence also.
However, if I ever required protection from wayward family, it would be nice to have someone like you as the gatekeeper.
Do everyone a favor and answer by posting a comment for all to see an update.
By posting only under "Reply", it is very time consuming to research to see if you had replied at all. It is a learning curve for all of us.
Would like an update, please. Do you still need help?
Are you okay? Are you still here?
Did the stranger go away?
Mean while this guy is now saying he will call the police and adult protective services on me . I told him to do that because I've nothing to hide. But I don't understand why he won't let me see a copy of this POA he says he has. I would definitely be thankful and have no problem showing this to the person who has been looking after my mother . His logic makes zero sense to me.
I will keep every one posted as things move forward.
You need to involve the court system ASAP. If these people are family they should have no problem proving it through a legal mediator. Your job is to protect her from all harm. If she were my mother I would appreciate someone who cared enough to want to make sure she will be safe. God is watching, do the right thing. Protect your friend, but do it legally.