Do I belong here?

The variety of ideas and different input is what makes this forum so great. Everyone who wants to can weigh in and there are different takes on things.

KJ, you certainly do belong here if you want to get smart input from people who are now or have been in similar situations. Take the helpful stuff, leave the rest. We're all just regular people, though some have more knowledge about certain aspects of caregiving. The caregiving journey can be a real tough thing for many and you'll need advice and support along the way. Welcome to AC.

I feel that this forum is available to those who are in some manner supporting their aging parents or other loved ones.

Me, I am doing it from afar. I cannot be in the same room with either parent for more than a few minutes before the criticism starts. So I choose not to be in the same room as them. It took years of therapy to get out from under their thumbs and I refuse to give up my life for them.

So even though I am not dealing with my parents on a day to day basis, I read on these pages what may be coming down the pipe and how to set up supports ahead of time. Once again from afar.

I never received a letter. But then again, I don't post on here as much.

Sometimes it seems if you don't side with the majority on here you get ostracized. Which is sad because sometimes a novel, original idea might be just what the poster is seeking. Just saying............But hey, I'm not bitter. I will continue being me and some people will like it and some won't. Such is life.

As a person who had to ask permission here to go to a support group because the idea upset my mother, I have to say the best thing you could do is offend her everyday so she'll stay in her room. OK that is snarky. All I can say is welcome--a lot of people were very kind and helpful to me here.

Freqflyer has some great suggestions. I agree 70 may be too young for those at your senior center.

This is great forum. I’ve been on some time and have learned so much and gleaned great ideas from all plus learned from those who’ve walked the walk. My mom is now in memory care at 94 but the path was so much easier because of this forum.

Your mom feels like she’s lost a lot with the move and reluctant to lose her independence and she’s right. She is probably still a vibrant independent women and needs others her own age —so she can have a life and you can have a life.

I know it’s hard as you work full time. But maybe check with the church or locate a book club, ymca exercise group, etc. where you can go together at first until she gets comfortable and maybe gets introduced to others her own age. Are there neighbors her age you can introduce her to? Maybe organize a small luncheon at your house and invite some persons her age or maybe your friends have nearby moms, neighbors her age. Maybe she’d like to take up golf?

I think volunteering at the hospital, church, thrift shop, or library is a great idea. Maybe you offer to go with her a few times while she gets comfortable.

I know you don’t want to hurt each other, but you do need to set boundaries. Would she feel more comfortable renting a condo, apt nearby where you’d be close by to do dinner and lunch once in a awhile, but she’d have her own privacy and independence.

Gershun, "thick skin, Remember? I completely understood where you were coming from, so don't let what some silly person, who misunderstood your message get to you! You have very good, very relevant suggestions, and the OP will pick and choose which idea's will work best for her in her situation.

"A Nudge", the Mom needs a swift push back now and then, or she will Trudge all over her! I know, as my FIL moved in with my husband and I right after his wife passed away, and it went downhill X 13 Years, until he passed in our home 2 months ago, and I've got the footprints on my back to prove it!

I never knew what the "fear, obligation and Guilt (FOG)" meant, until it began registering in my brain that he was a complete Narcissist, and that's when the lights truly turned on for Us, and I learned all about that on here, this website!

So YES, you Do belong here, as there is much to learn in this caregivers journey, and the more you can learn from those who have previously traveled in you path, the Better! You have come to the right place, and Good Luck!

KJMorgan, to add to my previous post.... you came here at the right time on this journey, before this journey became crazy. You are still sane.

Oh how I wished I would have found this forum BEFORE my parents became elderly [in their 90's] to a point where they needed help, instead of finding this forum half way through their journey. It was too late to turn around, had a ton of flat tires, and the road maps were out of date. Oh my gosh, all those speed-bumps. Who knew that one could say "no" to a parent and not feel guilty??? And that boundaries could be set???

Please stay with us, we all have some type of caregiving knowledge, be it hands-on and/or logistical. Be it in one major subject like finances, real estate, legal matters outside of hands-on caring. Or to just come here vent.

Get yourself a pretend football helmet, must wear it while banging head against the wall. You can dress it up in stickers :)

Short answer, yes. It would be a good idea to stay on here in my opinion. I started off in a similar way with my mother, only diff was that I was and still am on my own. Things will eventuallly go down hill to some degree or another and the best thing to have is info because it will get harder over time. There's some good info on here and it's a great place to ask questions, give it some time and give the web site a chance. I thank God a co-worker told me about this web site and I hope it helps you and your husband.

Thank-you Stacey. There are a few people on here who don't like me and would disagree with me if I said "The sky is blue" ;) I think it goes back to when I had a difference of opinion about something two years ago. Small minds with big memories. I've let it go and if they could too this world would be so much sunnier and brighter.

Anyhow, my skin is thick and when I get flack it actually makes me feel relevant, funny as that may sound. But tis the season to be jolly and I am going to be jolly, even if it kills me. LOL

Getting back to the poster who started this thread. Yes, a thousand times yes! You do belong here. No problem is too trivial. Post anything that is on your mind. Sorry that your question got sidetracked by nonsense.

Gershun, the difference between you and me is that I wouldn't say "I wasn't mocking anybody. You see what you want to see." I would say "I wasn't mocking anybody. I apologize if my post came across that way." I wouldn't go on the attack and accuse another person of being humorless based on failing to see what I thought was humor in one post.

Before this exchange, I wasn't one of the people on here who didn't like you. Previously, I only disagreed with you.

:)

KJ, short answer, yes you belong here.

Yes, you need to learn to set better boundaries with your mom. Saying no to our parents is hard, but if we don't put our mental and physical health first, no one else is going to do it for us!

Yes, you belong here! There are many types of caregiving-physical, emotional, mental, psychosocial, spiritual, etc. Physical caregiving involves performing ADLs (Activities of Daily Living) such as getting a person out of bed, taking them to the bathroom, bathing them, dressing them, feeding them, etc. either by you performing the activity itself or just standing there and supervising/watching the person as they do the activity. Ancillary ADLs include the other types: emotional, mental, psychosocial, spiritual; along with writing checks for them to sign, paying their bills, making their meals, washing their clothes, cleaning their room, taking them to church/doctor appointments/senior citizen events/getting their medications ready by putting them in an pillbox, etc. (This is the type of caregiving that many home health agencies give.) You can give care by being right next to them or by being 100 or 1000 miles away. So, YES, you do belong in this forum. We ALL belong here because we care about someone.

KJMorgan, looks to me as though you've already left this forum :( because I'm seeing only others' posts. Hopefully not. My heart sank when I started reading through the posts and noticed the bickering start.

I've only posted once before a few weeks ago and received many many helpful and supportive answers. Since then I've been reading and learning so much! So thanks to everyone here for your contributions.

If I may be so bold ... please think back to when you first came on here, were a newbie, and how you would have felt about bickering starting in your initial threads. Speaking from experience on other forums I've joined, it's very hurtful and unhelpful, and drove me away instead of welcoming me in.

So my suggestion: put your best foot forward at first.

My two cents' ......

KJMorgan,
Thank you for this most interesting question, bringing up not only how people feel that they "belong", but also issues with your mother who is living with you. Five pages of answers in only 3 days!  Must have struck a cord in others who may have felt they did not belong,  way far back as high school, focusing on themselves, not your issues.

Focusing now on what you have said about your mother:
" I can no longer have private conversations as she lurks near the doors and listens."

That would cause me real grief in my home if that happened. I would not tolerate it.
Maybe some caregivers here who have gone through this will have some suggestions.
Sorry that she is doing that. As people age, they may lose their filters and polite social abilities. Sometimes due to illness, medications, or because they were always that way.

I have heard of caregivers building an in-law suite for the parent.
What about a sanctuary master-suite for you and your husband that she cannot get close enough to the door to listen? Could be as simple as an additional door further down the hallway, keeping your current bedroom door?

I went to bible study class with Caregivers and took my Mother with me maybe 10 years ago when Mother lived in Independent Living in a Senior facility and my home was nearby. It left the door open for us to consider my being a caregiver when she needed and when she started losing a sense of organization in a day she asked me to come back from Colorado and be her Caretaker. On AgingCare you hear frustrations and trauma from dysfunctional families, harsh LO, regret and real anger about sacrifice. The sooner you find AgingCare the better. Especially if you have a heathen brother and sister-in-law and cousin (my situation) and in many other situations like those described in the answers you receive.  You get feedback on a wide range of experiences. 

KJMorgan,

Just wanted to give you a piece of advice that I’ve a feeling might serve you well:

Time has come not to share all your ideas and plans with your mom as it relates to your caregiving role; for example the fact that you now belong to this website, or if you chose to start going to counseling sessions to help you understand and adjust to having your mother home and to deal with the aging process, even if you decide to start going to the gym, to a coffee shop, or shopping for an hour or more here and there either alone or with your husband!...She simply does not need to know! She should be able to reach you if she needs to, but she doesn’t need to know your full agenda.

If you need to hide or even lie about this type of things, it is worth it, it is necessary and at the end of the day it is all for her and your benefit. It is one of those rare situations in life where lying is not only forgivable...but required!

My mom, who knows no boundaries, took my iPad once and looked at google-that was back when I was trying to understand the Narcissistic disorder- so she found something along the lines of “My mother abuses me mentally and emotionally” as something I’d been reading recently....well, to this day, she brings that up as a proof of the awful daughter I am that accuses her own mother of abuse!!!… and you know, I see her point, it’s not pleasant for a mother to know your child “thinks their mother abuses him/her”; it’s just that there’s sooooo much underlying truth and information from a psychological perspective that that simple line she saw could never be interpreted so superficially as she did. I understand it hurt her...but it’s just that she did not need to see that!

So please don’t share what you don’t need to share. And be careful with any documents, phone calls, text messages, or computer researchyou or your husband are doing. May sound paranoid but your mom sounds like mine, a little bit unstoppable! It’s like sleeping with the enemy, but it’s just mom!

Best of luck and try to keep your sanity above all!! :)