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He has severe neuropathy, can’t feel from his knees down, and hands are numb. He gets up to use the bathroom or get something to eat. He ends up falling, he has gone through 3 of our walls that will need repairing. Broken cabinet doors in half. I do not know when I have gotten a full nights sleep last. I can’t sleep during the day. He gets up at 4-5 am and eats (spills) cereal, then sits in his recliner and will sleep for 6-8 hours straight! But can’t stay in his bed for 6-8 hours😩. He gets very belligerent and pushes me away when I’m trying to help him back to bed. He breaks this off walls, and says “it’s not my fault”. I’m at the end of my rope. I’ve looked at a few apartments for myself and possibly getting a divorce. I can’t take all the damage he is doing. I do everything, all housework, cooking, laundry. All yard work, with frequent criticism thrown in. A place where I can keep things clean and not get broken, and a place where I don’t have so much yard work to do. My boys help anytime I ask. But they have families too take care off, calling them to help pick him up off the floor at wee hours of the morning is out of the question. He 6.1, 235 lbs. I’m at 160 and unable to lift him up. Any ideas for me? He is 67.

Just a suggestion, leave for a couple of weeks, go someplace just for you. Enjoy some space from him. Maybe you will decide to not even go back. If you do decide to go back,maybe he will appreciate you a lot more

Big men don't know or understand there strength at all. My husband is 6"5 , 250 ish. I weigh 130. He has actually accidentally knocked me down, not understanding his strength compared to mine. So I've been trying to explain this to him in are aging years. But your husband's way past that.
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ANY time he falls....EVERY time he falls call 911 (or the non emergency number) and ask for a LIFT ASSIST.
They are trained to help someone up off the floor without hurting themselves or the person they are helping.
99.99% of the time there is no charge for a Lift Assist if there is no transport to the hospital. (some areas may not have their own 911 and will charge if another town has to be called)

You do not give any info in your profile as to your husbands medical condition that has caused the neuropathy.
I hate to say it but it might be time for some decisions.
Either hire an overnight caregiver or seriously consider placing him in a facility that will meet his care needs. I know this is a big decision but it does not sound like it is safe for you or for him to remain at home.
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Your dh should be in a wheelchair with severe neuropathy, as my mother was. And he should be tested for cognitive impairment as well because something seems way off with him, truthfully. To insist he can walk and keep falling like this, and to keep repeating that pattern over and over again smacks of cognitive decline/dementia. Not to mention wanting to ride a motorcycle, as you said in your previous post....just makes no sense.

Do as Grandma suggests and call 911 every time he falls, asking for a lift assist. I'd have him transported to the ER for an evaluation myself.

See an elder care attorney about options for yourself now, too. Someone who's versed in Medicaid who can guide you accordingly.

Best of luck to you.
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You gonna need to hire an Aid , it’s not gonna be possible for you to still care for him by yourself .. unfortunately that is usually the hard reality .. you gotta get help ! I wish you the best 🙏🏻
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Try and keep him up during the day. I know this hard, but if you are the only one taking care of him you need a good night sleep. After 2 hour nap during the day, I tell my husband. I need his help with something, or we go to the store, (even for one item). His job is to push the basket. No matter what, every day is mentally exhausting.
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Why isn't he in a care facility? That seems like the best option considering the difficulties he has. Start looking for one. You don't need to tell him about it - yet.

Is he a veteran? If so, the VA may be able to help you.

Absolutely DO NOT lift him yourself. That could permanently injure you. Always call for a Lift Assist, even if it seems embarrassing to call them.
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I agree with an/other: Why isn't he in a facility?
If you do not get him in a 24/7 care facility, you need 24/7 care for him at home. This means someone (strong, able to manage him / his anger, frustration, resistance - in general - and when he starts to get out of bed)).

You will injure yourself if you do not make changes.
Both mentally, psychologically and physically.

This is not a workable situation. You must make changes ... now.

And, it is important for you to understand / explore your resistance to doing what you likely know you need to do (place him in a facility). Get into therapy to process through your feelings. You need professional support to manage all these needs and changes. It is not easy.

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It's easy for us to say "he needs to be in a facility".

Have you looked into this? Is it the cost? What's the barrier to this?

He probably wouldn't stay in a wheelchair, although it's what he needs.

Is he on any medication for his agitation? If not, why not? On meds he may be more compliant (in a facility).

Maybe consider hiring a geriatric care manager to help you make decisions and get things done. Cheaper and less effort than a divorce. Your portion of your assets can be protected, so also see a certified elder law attorney, estate planning attorney and/or a Medicaid Planner for your state.
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Forgot, Is it Lafademia? They can come to your home for that periodic wrapping.
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Does he have dementia?
You need help!
I had to hire an overnight aid three nights a week so I could sleep at night. And three days a week my husband went to a nearby daycare facility for 3 to 4 hours.
He passed peacefully after a week in a hospice facility. I live in an area where elder care was available and excellent. Of course, I could afford help. Do you have longterm care insurance? Do you have good insurance otherwise? Do you have financial support systems in your community? Can you consult a social worker? Our society isn’t exactly enlightened regarding the needs of our aging population. No medicare for vision or dental.
Good luck to you. If you do not want to die, get help, however you can. Seriously.
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I sympathize with you. I was, and still am, dealing with a similar situation. My husband has both Parkinson’s w some neuropathy in feet as well as moderate dementia. I have daytime help , but little sleep because of his waking up and my own worries.

When he falls I call 911- they arrive asap and have told me not to lift, just call them. I’ve had many holes in walls from falls, dents in all door frames from walker , I am now taking care of everything and feel I’m at a breaking point in spite of extra help.

I now have a therapist to vent to who specializes in cognitive care w dementia. His neurologist also prescribed a low dose sleeping pill for night, and this had made a huge difference, he sleeps most of night only 1 bathroom visit… urinals on walker , and has stopped getting up to eat because I leave him fruit slices and PPJ sandwich.
All This has helped me , but I am definitely overwhelmed and experiencing caregiver burn out. I am looking into respite care for him with help of Hospice ( you don’t need to be dying to ask them for help, they are a fabulous resource for caregivers ) so that I may get away for a week.

Respite care is often covered by Medicare or your health insurance. Please look into caregiver support group- hospice can help finding one. We do not have help from family either.
Please contact your PCP for help getting him tested for cognitive decline. He should not be walking with such extensive neuropathy. Tell him how desperate your situation is.

I have also read on this forum that if he is refusing going into full time care , and he ends up in hospital , you can refuse to take him home because you are unable to care for him safely at home. Refuse . Do not take him home. Hospital has to find him a place to go. I hope I’ve given you some helpful suggestions and moral support.

Take care of yourself ,it’s hard to ask, but please ask for help on weekends from your family, this is your husband and THEIR father too. If their answer is no get him admitted to 24/7 care which will attend to his needs.
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Try the fire department for a “lift and assist “. No sirens. Look into it.
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Marie, since your husband is only 67, he is probably mad at the world because this wasn't the retirement he had expected. And some guys just do not want to accept they have physical issues such as walking, so they just plow through the house trying to get from point A to point B.

Check his medicine to see if any have a side effect of making one drowsy. Have your husband take those pills at night if he doesn't already [first check with his doctor]. I am hoping this will help not only him but for your own sanity.
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Judithmommy1 Mar 30, 2024
They medicated my mom so much while on palliative care to keep her still it was to her detriment. After being in the hospital and having her meds adjusted and then going to a rehab facility further, adjusting her medication I have my mother back.. she still has dementia but she’s not falling. She’s walking. She’s speaking she’s eating she’s my mom again you’re not a pharmacist and you’re not a doctor. Sometimes giving people sedatives are not to their advantage, and that simply not in your school house of knowledge, unless you have a degree in medical care or pharmacy. Don’t put your health at risk either. As they always say, if you’re not doing well, you can’t take care of others and make their life well. Not exactly how they say it but you get it I’m sure
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Marie1978: He requires residency in a care facility. NEVER attempt to pick him up off the floor as you're risking life and limb; call the fire department.
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Judithmommy1 Mar 30, 2024
I wholeheartedly agree. The system in California the only system I know and don’t love has loopholes. She can’t follow him around 24 hours a day. Caregiver burn out, provoked, but not needed Or intentional anger and so much more. Sounds like Alzheimer’s though. I’m not a doctor. This disease gets worse really quickly, even if it’s just deemed dementia. if you’re not a professional, you cannot do people such as these unfortunate people justice.
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400 mg of magnesium glycinate taken at 6 or 8 pm will help him sleep through the night

He needs to be active and awake during the day
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What about a urinal at bedside for at night ?

Have you told the doctor about this behavior ?
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Mare a Japanese style bed room with the Mattress on the floor with rugs
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Learn to put yourself in his situation and how angry and frustrated you would feel if you could not control your body as you had in the past. If you love him there are many things you can do to help him and yourself.

*cereal pre-poured with lift off cover set up nightly so it is available
*cabinets that are frequently accessed can have door removed along with excess items
*get a second bedroom,
*bedside urinal or strapped to a walker bedside and yes you would have to dumb it for him, grab bars anywhere he tends to lose his balance, accept the fact that traditional ways may be out, if it is not meeting his needs
*get a Hoveround scooter for inside and outside so he can be of some help and safely move quickly from one area to another. Install small premade ramps as needed off amazon.
*or get a medical alert fall bracelet so he can tell the operator that comes on if he needs help to get up. (Use a keypad lock on the door, in case you're not aware they are coming). The alert co. will call whoever (911, neighbor, prepicked strong teen, son) you put on the list for assistance and there is nothing wrong with grown sons taking turns to help their parents it could be you next with an issue. Better to encourage sons to be supportive and involved with family than self-centered.
*time to child proof or make simple your home again, put breakables somewhere else or give to family who can display them
*drywall for holes in the wall is not a costly repair, you just need to find someone who does this type of work and keep their number around, ask your sons to find someone who can patch holes cheap.
*he doesn't need you to physically help him to bed, you can't hold him up he can use a walker if he wants to walk, offer encouragement if you want to help him, there is nothing wrong with him sleeping in a recliner rather than struggling to safely get back to bed let him know you understand
*life has changed, you have to accept the changes so that you can enjoy what you have to offer each other now and or find new ways less physical to enjoy life
*really check out the Hoveround let them get Medicare to approve it.
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LoopyLoo Mar 28, 2024
“If you love him there are many things you can do to help him and yourself.”

That’s unfair. She obviously loves him so much that it’s breaking her heart and body.
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Everyone saying, why isn't he in a care facility. Some of us either cannot afford the outrageous cost of a care facility, unless on Medicaid, or do not want to spend our hard earned life savings on a greedy facility. Where I live, skilled nursing facilities cost $500 a day! Who can afford this? I'm looking for a live in, home care giver for my husband, NOT from a for profit agency!

This country does not do elder care well. It's a sin.
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Judithmommy1 Mar 30, 2024
There are so many answers I could give you, but the information you’ve provided is a bit inaccurate or doesn’t tell the whole story. if you live in California and you both own a home together, they won’t take your money or your home if you do it the right way. On the other hand, if you have money they’re gonna take it. You can get him in a facility if you take the right steps. Know a little bit more about certain things, for instance, my social worker, that works with my mother and I didn’t think that I could get my mom into a facility here in California without paying additional monies but I found a way. I did more research than I had ever in school. It’s taxing. It’s heartbreaking for both of you for different reasons. Do more reading and ask the right people. I just happened to come across the right people for the most part. Good luck to you.
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Ask doctor for a referral to a sleep specialist (doctor). This specialist can evaluate and prescribe medication to help him sleep through the night. He also would do better to stay awake more during the day.

2 options on the house/yard work -
1 - get a smaller, very durable place without yard work
2 - get more people involved in caring for home, yard and your hubby.
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You sound so much like me when my mother was with me at home. She was on palliative care and what I believe happened is they over medicated her to keep her calm and still. Well, that made it worse. When I took her to the hospital after she’d fallen again, I told them they had to find her a bed because she can’t come home, I can’t keep her safe. It sounds like you’re having the same problem. Next time he falls, put him in a hospital make them find him a bed. Make sure he’s in the hospital until they find him a facility and then make sure he stays there for at least 60 days. You can have an assisted living waiver, filled out and turned in to Medicare beginning at day 45. if he’s on a healthcare advantage plan, take him off and put him on straight Medicare/Medi-Cal. Otherwise it won’t work. I’m learning more than I want to learn. I never thought I would be in this position I’d previously taken care of my cousin that had multiple sclerosis. They are two different issues. With my cousin, I had IHSS and hospice care. That stopped working for me and my mom. I wasn’t benefiting her. as much as this breaks my heart, she can’t be home and be safe. At a Facility they have 24/7 Care and you won’t be putting your own health at risk. I’m in California, so I hope that the information I provided you will help you. He doesn’t know that he’s doing these things, forgive him, and help him move to his next stage with Grace and love. I know so well how you feel and I’m sorry
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Maybe adult protective services can help you. they’re not only here to protect your loved one, but they’re here to protect you as well. When you put him back in the hospital, don’t let him out until they find an appropriate facility that will take someone with those issues.. it ain’t easy but it can be done
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