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My mother has just recently suffered a severe stroke from which she will likely never recover. She was my grandmother's POA, and was paying half of my grandmother's stay at a nursing care facility. My grandmother was not willing to travel around the house with her walker, and after a few too many close calls, the decision was made to put her in supervised care.


This was two years ago.


My father (my grandmother's new POA since my mother's stroke) does not have the funds necessary to continue paying for half of her care. He will continue to be unable to pay for my grandmother's care until he has access to my mother's assets, which will take 6 months to a year.


I have been considering acting as her live-in caretaker in that time. For me, it seems very simple. She is my grandmother, she helped raise me, and she doesn't like the nursing facility and would like to come home. She has dementia, but her general attitude towards life and her family has never wavered. She is a model guest at the nursing home, I have been told repeatedly that she's a wonderful person to work with, she's friendly and funny and cooperates always with their staff. My grandmother is 93, she was diagnosed with dementia six years ago, during which time her mood and attitude has not changed hardly at all. I have noticed a lot of people experience caretaker burnout dealing with ungrateful or uncooperative elderly persons. My grandmother is not in any way like this.


My fiance, he has many more reservations. My heart is telling me that taking care of my grandmother is simply the right thing to do in this situation, but he feels I'm taking on more risk and responsibility than I understand, and he believes I might have a REALLY hard time, and that I might be ruining my future to do this. I'm 23, I've just gotten a new job with a good company that provides a lot of opportunity for growth. He doesn't want me to have to give up this job, especially since my current boss has been a good friend of mine for years.


He also believes that this cannot be a one-person job. He believes that he'll find himself helping me out often, if not daily, with my grandmother's care (since I couldn't be expected to be on duty 24/7.) This would cause problems for his own future; when he isn't working, he's developing a software portfolio. He wouldn't be able to focus on his future career if he's helping me out so much, but I don't really see how I might need his help, seeing as my grandmother is so docile, and low maintenance (for her condition.)


There's also the matter of cost. I have been promised by trustworthy family that I'll be paid slightly more than I'm currently making, but much less than the average live-in caretaker. I'm okay with that, but I'm not okay with the fact my family and I will be responsible for the entirety of employment taxes. That hasn't been worked out yet, and how much or the manner of payment has not been ironed out. This is another concern of my fiance's.


The greatest of his concerns is simply that I will not be able to provide care at the level the nursing home is able to provide care. He reiterates often that there are 4 or 5 trained professionals on staff at the nursing home at any given time for my grandmother, but that I am only a single person who has never cared for another person in my life. I don't have kids, I have never been responsible for someone's care. (I don't need CPR certification or anything; my grandmother has a DNR.) He worries I'm biting off a lot more than I can chew, and I'm oblivious to that fact because I'm so motivated to do 'the right thing' for my family. When, in fact, this may not be the right thing for my grandmother.


He's right. I'm having a hard time processing his concerns out of a sheer drive to do the right thing. I also have no idea what I'm getting into; other than generally managing the household, and making sure my grandmother is safe, clean, and well-fed, I'm not sure what my specific job duties might become.


What should I consider that I haven't yet considered? Is there weight to my fiance's concerns? Am I even capable of providing adequate care for my grandmother? (My fiance doesn't seem to think so.) I don't want to ruin my life, and now he's scared me so much I'm actually reconsidering.


Any words of advice from someone a little further down the road than me? Anything at all would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading!

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Its a really complicated situation, and not a decision to be taken lightly. You definitely will have to make some sacrifices, and your fiance will too. If he loves you he will be willing to do that, just as you would do it if it were his grandmother. It sounds like he has some legitimate fears that this might be more than you can handle. Is there a way you can bring your grandmother home for some overnight visits, or maybe a week here and there, so you and your fiance could get a more realistic idea of how things would be? It might turn out its too much for you. On the other hand, it might turn out that its no bother at all, and he will realize his fears are unfounded. At least, it would give you an idea.
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Keep your job! You are young and need to start in your profession. Your grandma would agree. Hire caregivers for the day shift..... 2 shifts..... 8am till 7pm .
This will still be cheaper than the nursing facility. Get other members in the family to help with meals and transportation etc. It is worth trying for you own peace of mind.
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If money is an issue to keep Grandmother in nursing,check if she is eligible for Medicaid. If she is a "model guest" at the nursing home, I suspect she isn't all that unhappy there. Of course, they would rather be home, but if she is doing ell there, I would leave her. In her state now, you might feel that you can handle her. But her dementia is only going to worsen. It would be difficult to move her, then months down the road have to make the decision to move her back. Read posts on this site. Most of us have gotten into more than we have bargained for. If your fiance already has so many concerns, I would serioiusly consider not doing this and leaving her where she is.
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dementia only gets worde. There is a book called the 72 hour day. i suggest you read it, before making any decision. It is a 24/7 workload. One person couldn't do it. However it is a temperary situation, which will end in 6 months when your Mom's recovered.. I would do it.
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Grandmother may be wonderful because she has 24/7 attention. I would leave her be and visit, your fiance is right to be concerned. You have no idea what you would be in for in my opinion. Let your dad work this out and work on your own affairs.
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You are a compassionate, loving granddaughter, and your fiance is a wise, wise man. If I were in your situation, I would not move my grandmother in with me and become her live-in caretaker. But I would be her caretaker. Being a loved one's caretaker does not always mean they live with you (or you with them). Keep her at a residence where experienced staffers can take care of all her needs (ADLs, physical and mental exercise, entertainment, social camraderie, etc.). You can then spend the loving, quailty time with her at her residence or take her for outings/overnights. You can keep in daily touch with the residence staff and be an attentive, involved loved one. The toll of live-in caretaking is enormous. You cannot underestimate the stress and strife it can cause in your life. There are many books, articles, websites, etc. where you can read up on what is involved with being a full-on caregiver.I would most definitely reconsider your very noble, but star-crossed, plan.
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Wow - you are WAY to young to do this. You have all the right intentions -- so sweet. That is good. But I agree with your fiance. It will definitely change if not destroy the rest of your 20's and beyond. Your right when you say that you no idea what you are getting into. You don't, honey. It's a 24/7 job. And it just gets harder as the dementia worsens (remember it will never get better). I thought I had a trustworthy family too but when it came down to money (I care for both Mom and Dad), they changed their mind. And I was left making all the decisions and figuring out how to pay all the bills. The same could happen to you. I know you might want to think that, but it's a possibility and then you left holding the bag, grandmother in tow, no money and no job.

Medicaid - I've been through this process for my Dad who is in a nursing home. Get an elder care attorney to walk you through the steps. It's complicated but well worth it. To start the process, you only need to file one form and give it to the nursing home. From that day on, she is considered "Medicaid Pending" and you only pay what you can pay. It much more complicated than that, but that's the idea. It will save your Dad from bankruptcy, you from hardship etc...

Leave grandma where she is. She is safe and being taken care of properly. Go and visit her as much as you can. Bring her home for a day, bring her ice cream, do her laundry. Please take time to think about this.

xo

-SS
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P.S. Marie17 is SOOOO right. :)
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You have so many options. Isn't it sad often money is the key deciding factor. Here's a question: If your grandmother did not have dementia and you asked her what to do, what advice would she give you? What would she want? If you know the answer you can choose to honor her wishes. And then you need to ask what kind of life do you want? Do you need to care for her to be happy, content for the rest of your life or will you be resentful for all you missed? Carefully think about what really is needed and know that even if you care for her, you may not be able to see it through to the end.
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I agree with the people who say that you are young (and engaged) and shouldn't feel that it is your responsibility to care for your grandmother at home. Believe me, it is much more difficult than you can imagine!!! I currently care for my husband at home but if anything were to happen to me, I would NEVER want one of our children, who are young adults, to give up their lives to care for him. If your grandmother does not have the funds to pay for the nursing home herself, she should be eligible for Medicaid which will pay for her care. Mediciad will not take into account any money that other family members have and will pay for the nursing home in full.
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I want to commend you for wishing to care for your grandmother while your mother is overcoming the effects of her stroke.

I would recommend that you keep your job which is difficult if you chose to become a primary caregiver for your grandmother. At 93 your grandmother may not live that much longer, so your stint as a primary caregiver will be relatively short run. However, at 93 various things tend to happen, conditions worsen etc.
As far as a diagnosis of dementia, if she has had this label for 6 yrs and not much change in function, I fear the label may not be accurate. I found medical staff unfamiliar with normal aging process are all to free with whipping out the label for any elder over age 85 yrs.

However, I think you need to determine exactly what she can and can't do for herself as this will give you a better idea of what it would take to keep her at home. If your grandmother has been paying her way in the nursing home, there might be enough money to provide a home health aide/companion for your grandmother while your and your spouse are at work. This would reduce the amount of care you need to provide each day while trying to focus on your employment.
Will your mother or father be able to continue to care for her at some future date? Will your father be consumed caring for your mother leaving grandmother's care to you? Do you have aunts/uncles who could step up to provide some care for their mother? Do you have siblings who could help either with grandmother or your mother? The more support you have the better off you will be to maintain your home, and your employment while caring for your grandmother.

It may be something you wish to do, but you do need to have your ducks in a row or it will be overwhelming. Caring for an elder is unlike caring for a child. The child over time becomes more independent --needing less care. The elder will become more and more dependent ---needing more care. It is just a factor of the aging process. Elders wanting to be independent, having lived a full life, want to remain independent. While this desire is commendable, it can make it difficult to care for them at times. Say they refuse a cane or walker when it is needed, it results in falls and injury. While direct guidance to children tends to work, it often is resented by elders even when well meaning. I found I needed to discuss things in detail with my dad and give him time to think about things to gain his support for any changes in his care. Since he kept his mental abilities I had that option.

Lastly if your grandmother is running out of money to pay for the nursing home, then your father/mother could make arrangements for her to get Medicaid money to pay for her nursing home. If the inability to get to her money to continue paying is due to your mother's illness and her having the POA, I think the POA could be transferred to allow the current payment to continue to the nursing home. This might be the best solution.

Good luck Your are amazing to be willing to care for your grandmother at 23 when she is 93yrs.

Elizabeth
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Sounds like at this point you are very unsure of you role as caregiver. I personally feel that you should step aside from that role and see who is can do it. I am a Grandmother and I would not want my young granddaugther who is just starting a new life to take on such a difficult role--and the role is going to be much more difficult than you can ever imagine. Be your grandmother's advocate and her POA and make sure that she receives the care she so deserves. You go out and live your life and hope that you can financially contribute to her care. Just being there and seeing your grandmother is enough love for her. See her a couple times a week, talk to her on the phone, and have dinner or breakfast with her. She will love those special moments with you and she will undestand--give her a great grandchild that you might name after her. Your love and devotion is the best you can do at this time. Thanks for being the best grandchild any grandparent would ever want!!!!!
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Please, I know you love your grandma, but don't give up a good job. It may also put a lot of stress on your relationship with your fiance. It is extremely hard, and sometimes althrough family promises to pay it doesn't end up as much as promised.
Please take this advice, and don't put your life on hold.
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it sounds like your Grandmother is settled in where she is. I am a caregiver for my Mother and an LPN. I admire your interest in undertaking the care of your Grandmother but it is so much more than an "adult sitting job". Just the move and change in environment can place your Grandmother at increased risk for confusion, falls, change in appetite. If she becomes medically ill and then does not want to go to the Dr. then what? Family members no matter how "sweet" with others can be totally different with family. You can be supportive and maybe even take her out to lunch from where she is.
sounds like she is liked and settled in. Your boyfriend is spot on with advice. Plus
you may have more involvement required with your parents. Stay clear in your thinking and continue to broaden you own life and relationships. You can still be there for others just be there for you first. I hope it all works out, keep the faith.
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Everyone I know who has become a caregiver to a loved one says that it is more work than they ever imagined. It is physically and emotionally draining. If she is friendly, funny, and cooperative with the staff, are you sure she is unhappy in the nursing home? Or is she just saying what she thinks you want to hear? Every elder wants to return to the health and activities of their youth, and she might just have moments when she wants her youth back. There is a wise saying: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Your grandmother's situation is not broken, and her attitude reflects that. Since she loves you, had she not dementia, I'm sure she would want you to live your life fully. She would also give you her blessings to do so.
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Please listen to all the people on this site who are giving great advice about you caring for your grandmother at home. Visiting her ane seeing her for a few hours doesn't even give you a glimpse of what you would be doing at home. She probably needs full assistance to use the bathroom or may be incontinent and you would have to change her and keep her clean. Not to mention night time when she might not sleep well. Then there is the worry about her eating well. Sometimes older adults do not want to eat the foods you prepare. Anyway please let her stay where she is happy and visit her often. I take care of my 92 yr. old mother and I love her very much, but it is very stressful having to be her caregiver 24/7 and not having the life I would have expected to have at 61 yrs. of age.
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You are such a wise girl to really think this over before jumping in. I jumped in. I moved my Grandmother in with my family 2 months ago. (basically because no one else would). We are surviving but it is very, very hard. My Grandmother is sweet and loving too, but the dementia is difficult to deal with, 24/7. You can't just "take a break". Everything has to be arranged. I can't even go to the grocery store without making sure someone is here to watch her. It's like having a baby again. Only it's not a baby. I understand where you are at, and I might even go so far to say that I would do it again if I had the chance to start over. But it's not easy, and it will change YOUR life drastically.
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So sweet and loving of you for wanting to help your grandmom. You are too young to put yourself in this situation and your grandmom would never want you to. She already knows you love her. Just be there for her, vist her, talk to her, take her out to eat. I took my mom to live with me and care for her 7 yrs ago and I was in my 50's with all my daughters married.. My husband was home while I worked and towards the end of my mom's life with dementia it was extremely difficult. Just love her while she is here and move on with your life. Older people are very happy around people their own age and I am sure she would never expect you to take care of her 24-7.
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I was my Grandfather's caregiver with my Grandmother when I was only 21. I will always be thankful that I had that privilege. The very last conversation I had with my Grandfather,( who I called Poppa) was "what will become of my Mary" ? Who was my Grandmother. I promised him I would care for Gran. I was able to keep that promise, it was 10 yrs later! I was married and had two young boys who dearly loved Great Grandma. It is not always easy but I feel it can be done. If indeed your Gran is comfortable and doing well at the NH it could confuse her to move her. I think there are many things to consider. You need to listen to your heart and do what you feel is best! I know this is not an easy decision to make. I was my Father's caregiver and now I am my Mother's. She has dementia and does not remember to take her meds or to eat if someone is NOT helping her.
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Some here say to listen to your heart, and that is good advice, BUT in situations like this, it may not be your heart that is tugging at you. It may be feelings of obligation or guilt, because no one else is stepping up. Some of these feelings may be tied up in what happened to your mother. You're too young to take on the burden of obligation or guilt. Honor your mother's decision by helping your grandmother get Medicaid, so she can stay where she is being taken care of, and make them both proud by living your life well.
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I admire your spunk and determination. It's admirable to want to take care of our older loved ones. They took care of us when we were young and it's only natural to feel like it's our turn now. Acknowledging that noble intention, it's time to weight it with facts. Even though you say she is loving and agreeable, dementia progresses. My father is 92 years old and in the last stages of dementia. It's not a pretty thing. My dad was bright, kind and possessed a wonderful sense of humor. As his dementia has progressed, more of his brain is effected. He has lost most of his cognitive abilities and is unable to function. Dad is a shell of who he used to be. He doesn't know me when I visit and can't carry on any kind of a conversation. He only speaks a few words. What can that mean for you? As time goes by and the disease progresses, someone with dementia becomes more like an infant with all of their many needs. It becomes an all consuming thing, demanding more and more of your time and patience. The only things is...they don't grow up like an infant would, they become increasingly more dependent. There's a reason 63% of care givers will die before their care receiver. Caregiver stress can be life threatening. I know it was for me. It, almost, cost me my life. Listen to your fiance and all the loving people on this site. As the social worker in the care facility where Dad lives now told me once, "when taking care of a loved one with dementia, in a care facility there are numerous caretakers who can spread the responsibilities for their care around. In a home environment there is only you." Be her loving advocate for her care, spend time with her, love her, but leave her in an environment where she will be well taken care of. Someday, when she is gone, you can look at the time you visited her with loving fond memories. Honor her with the fruits of your life...not with the loss of your life.
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I pretty much threw my life away to become a live-in caregiver for my father. Your young, strong and ambitious. You also have a very good job that you are happy with, and a wise, loving, supportive fiance. You and your fiance will not have your 20's to live over again. I'm 51, and sure I inherited the little family business and the house, but all of the fighting and arguing over money for 12 years with my two older brothers has taken its toll. I'm wore out and in a lot of psychic pain. Sticking with my family and not striking out on my own, causes me a great deal of anguish which I cannot fix. Software is a very hard and competitive business, and requires a lot of long hours of quiet time. You will have constant interruptions, and the guilt daily you will have if you are not ' perfectly ' caring for your grandmother will drain you, mentally, emotionally and financially. You've never cared for a baby, nor have I. Your grandmother has a great deal of rich experience in dealing with all sorts of people and is not a baby -- but, the caregiving is just as intense. I didn't get together with Connie until I was 39 yrs. She has the experience of raising children from a previous marriage. She knew what to do in caring for dad. I did not. If you were in your 30's or 40's and had a well established career and maybe children of your own, then I would say go for it. However, that is not the case. Both of you must concentrate on your life's work. That must be done now. It's not cold, nor is it heartless to place you and your fiance's life work above your grandmother's needs. It is natural and normal. Visit a lot, be supportive, take her out to dinner and ice cream, but understand that the amount of energy required is something best put forward toward both of your careers. I'm very sorry I could not break away from my family and establish my own career and possibly marry and have children of my own. That didn't happen. The family business is too small for children of my own.
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Your attitude and love for your grandma is wonderful. In countries without the social care, parents and grandparents are all cared for by the children or one of the children. As many countries go through industrialization, there are more unfortunate cases of neglect in the current times. I don't have the statistics. But in the news you read about how a few years ago in the busy life of Japanese citizens, some would buy service of people who would visit their parents. A generation ago, it was common for parents to live with one of the children, especially the family of one of the sons in Asia. The social norm has been changing rapidly in the last twenty years and more and more senior apartments and convalescent homes are becoming common in places like Hong Kong, Tokyo and others, as in the US.

There will be God's blessings on you for bearing the hardship whichever way you choose to go. There is more you can be learning from observations, from people, from reading online and from doctors and caregivers. For sure, mental health is preserved better by being with more family members. Not every dementia case is Alzheimer. I thought our father did but his mental level has remained about the same from the initial diagnosis 4 years ago. But it doesn't mean easier on the children. After awhile I have begun to learn that life is not about making material gains although very easy to follow that way. Good luck.
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How wonderful for you to make a thoughtful post. Care giving is a 24/7 role. If you read some of the threads here, you will see that some can barely find time to make an appointment for a hair cut, never ind building a relationship with a finacee. Allow your grandmother the opportunity to be with professionals in a safe environment. There may come a point of time where your grandmother needs to be fed as well as the more traditional bathing assistance, making beds and laundry, bathroom assistance leads to incontinence and cleaning up accidents, etc. I truly is a round the clock job, you wouldn't be able to leave the house unless someone was with your grandmother. When I visited my Mom at the facility I didn't stop moving the the entire visit. These ranged from 2-4 hours at a time, at least 5 days a week. I left each visit physically and emotionally drained. And the level of needs just keeps increasing. Your fiance has clearly stated that he will not be available to assist and I applaud his honesty. You can be a lot more help as the advocate and supplier of family assistance at a facility than you can ever be as an exhausted/frustrated care giver in a home situation. Check out what financial assistance she qualifies for--- veterans assistance? Medicaid? etc. Good luck
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There is a definite theme to the posts in response to this question and the people posting these opinions are those who know first hand how incredibly difficult and stressful it is to be a full time caregiver. You stand to lose your job, your fiance and all the fun and freedom that go along with being young...and it might not even be the best thing for your grandmother.
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I think it is great that you want to take care of your grandmother. You have no idea what you would be letting yourself in for. You say she isn't happy in the nursing home==she won't be happy at home either. It will be 24-7 and it is not your fiances duty to help you. Sounds like the family is going to pay you. How long before they begin copping out. The road to you know where is paved with good intentions. I took in my 94 year old mother to keep her out of a nursing home. She was good for a year. For 3 years she has turned in to someone that can not be pleased and nothing I do is right. I am 74 now and have not had a life for 3 years. My husband has to go to church by himself every week. I can't leave her alone. Leave your grandmother where she is. She will adjust easier than you can. You take her in and you may have to kiss your fiance good-bye (if he is smart he will run the other way)
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Sweetheart,
I applaud your intentions and effort, but I was 50 yrs old when this happen to me and my mother... and I was still to YOUNG for this experience. I believe with all my heart you are fully capable and compassionate enough to do this job. That's not even in question. The question you need to ask yourself... are you ready to give up your life for your grandmother. Because in essence, when you step in as care giver, your life is not your own anymore. Every thing do or say in your life will revolve around your grandmother. You will be living her life. You life will change "drastically" and you will change. You will not emerged from this experience the same person. Some people can grow and learn from this situation. But sadly to say, I have seen my friends,co-workers (my self included) leave this situation with a jaded and resentful outlook on life. We did managed to overcome it and semi return to our cheerful and pleasant self, but our lives and inner core was changed FOREVER! I am not trying to scare you or influence your decision....I just feel that as someone with her life ahead of her and such a bright future, you need to understand the immense obligation you are about to undertake. I noticed that you have a "strong desire to do the right thing". Some times the "right thing" means making those hard decisions. You are a bright and intelligent young lady and I have no doubt you will do what you feel best. I wish you the best of luck in all of your future endeavors. If you do decide to care for your mother... stay on this site it is a wealth of knowledge and support... it saved my life. Good luck, my dear.
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I have read several of the responses to your question and they each contained good advice. If you still have any doubt, I hope this response helps you. DO NOT BECOME A LIVE IN CARETAKER TO YOUR GRANDMOTHER. You have a wonderful loving attitude, but you need to make the smart decision. The question is not whether you can take care of your grandmother, but rather should you take on this enormous task. I am 70 years old and I am a 24/7 caretaker for my wife who had a stroke 2 years ago. We have grandchildren and neither my wife nor I would want any of our grandchildren to step out of their lives and become our caretaker. While I cherish the time I have with each of our grandchildren, I would not let any of them throw away their youth on such an all consuming task. It would be selfish of me to allow that to happen. Better that you assist with arranging proper services for your grandmother, visiting her when you can, etc. You said in your question that your mother had a stroke. Who is going to take care of her? She is going to need help big time and some of your energy will be needed to make sure she has the care she needs. The only thing I know for sure is that you shouldn't agree to a full time caretaker role. It will drain you and it will change your life. You ask is there weight to your fiancée's concerns. The answer is "yes". Your grandmother and your parents are lucky to have you in their lives. Good luck to you and God Bless.
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I keep seeing answers to your question and I pray you will take the advice. I was my great Aunt's caregiver when I was 22 and it was hard, extremely hard. I lived with her. I was a caregiver again 25 years later, starting in 2007 for my mother, and added my 92 year old Aunt in 2011. It is stressful and basically you lose your freedom and your life. I know how much you love her. Please listen...I am telling you this because I truly know how it affects your life. You want to do the right thing and it is hard to say no because you love these people, but I would never advise it to someone at your age and in your position. Do not put your life on hold.
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As one of those "trained professionals" you will not do the right thing by your grandmother if you step in and try and care for another human being, which you admit you have never done before and it is a 24/7 day job. If you value your partner with whom you say you are engaged, he is not going to stick around and let his life be interrupted by your decision. So, I feel if you love this man, your best option is to visit your grandmother weekly or monthly, stay with your new job, and get on with your life. Hers is almost over as dementia has only one direction to go and that is not up. You can help in other ways, but let her remain with professionals who are trained to care for people with dementia.
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