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My dad just passed away a few months ago. It was a really difficult situation and caused a lot of trauma for me. Lately, planning my dad's service has been a disaster. I wanted to do something to honor him, but I've been surprised just how awful my family has been. My uncle let me know how much he hated everything I planned and how I don't think of anyone else in the family. My aunt proceeded to act like it was a strain for her and another uncle of mine to even come and just yesterday asked me if I'll be coming to visit them with a family member they dislike. I said why would I be doing that? We are planning my dad's service HERE, I don't have time to travel to your house when everyone is traveling here for the service! It was a ridiculous question. She wants to make sure that family member doesn't come to their house to visit and that I basically need to make sure that doesn't happen. I told her no way is that my responsibility and she needs to handle it. Since my dad has died, I've been met with rude comments and some of the worst behavior from my family. I've honestly thought of canceling the service, but want to proceed for my dad to honor him. I know I just have to set boundaries, but when you're in pain and your family treats you badly it's so hurtful. I feel I won't look at them the same after this. Just feels like another blow after dealing with one of the worst things. 😢

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First of all, I am so sorry for the loss of your dad.

Go ahead and plan for the service to honor your dad. It’s your wish to do this for your dad. I wouldn’t let them stop you from doing that.

After it is planned, give them the time and date and as you say, let them work out their personal differences. You shouldn’t have to be involved in their squabbles.

What a shame that they are being so ridiculous at this time instead of thinking of your father and you.

Wishing you peace as you mourn the loss of your father.
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reg1234 Mar 2023
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So sorry for your loss, Reg. Have you considered a private ceremony without the critics? Invitation only kind of thing. If you want to honor your dad, maybe cut out the people who make it all about them.
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So sorry for your loss. Just plan the service. It is important for you that you honor him. Whoever shows up, does. Distance yourself from all this infighting.
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plan your memorial. Ignore the manipulative relatives and refuse to engage in the petty squabbles.
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I’m sorry for your loss. Please tune out all the comments, have the funeral you’ve planned and listen to no compliants about it at all. Surround yourself with people who bring positive encouragement to your life
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This happened when my uncle died. We could not find his sons for next of kin and he had given his friend the authority to sign for him. When his friend said they could not afford a funeral I told her then you need to sign over to me the rights - which they did. When I talked to our lawyer he told me this was legal even though his sons were unreachable. So I made the arrangements. I notified the family - my cousins, aunts, uncles. With the announcement I was met with "this is what so-n-so wants..." and I stopped them in mid-sentence "I am doing this memorial, I have made the arrangements already and this is the time and place if you want to be there thats fine". Boy when the funeral happened I had one that was sooo made they took off in their car squealing. I thought to myself too bad! I also heard through the grapevine about how it should have happened and I let that grapevine know that if they had anything to say they needed to man up and say it or shut up! mmmm never heard another word. Sometimes we need to put on a hard shell but the close family members that support you will. Prayers for peace during this hard time!
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Let me start by saying I am so very sorry for the loss of your Dad. You clearly loved him a lot and wish to pay him tribute. But the honest fact is that your dad is gone.
Poet and Undertaker Thomas Lynch tells us in his books that when someone is dead there is nothing whatsoever that you can do FOR him, WITH him, ABOUT him or TO him that will make the slightest difference whatsoever for him. Ultimately our "services" are for us, to comfort us, to join us in love and memory. And clearly your family doesn't WANT that.

Your beloved Dad is gone. Why should this now be about his bickering family? For me it would be to celebrate my loving memories of my wonderful Dad on my own, in my own way, and with great peace and comfort and joy in what we had shared.

I think that many in your family are seeing "services" as some sort of burden. It seems that they have already mourned in their own way.
I think you are right. Cancel it. Dad has been gone now for some months. Hold your own services, your own celebrations of him yourself and in peace.

I am left to wonder if just perhaps your family has ever been much different?? I doubt they descended into chaos suddenly only because of or with the death of your Dad.

Leave them in peace. Celebrate yours and your Dad's great love alone. And again, I am sorry for your loss. If he was as fine a man as my own Dad I think he will ever be with you in your heart.
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Usually when cremated a Memorial Service is done at a later time. My MIL passed Feb 28 we had her service in May when her anniversary and Birthday were. She was being buried with FIL in a National Cemetery. I made the arrangements with VA and her friend had an outdoor luncheon. Friends and family was notified of the date, period.

Since his siblings are doing nothing but complain, I would either make it very small or not have it at all. You can go out to dinner with just his children and close friends to celebrate his life.
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reg1234 Mar 2023
My dad was also cremated and we are doing the service about 6 months later as well. I'm leaning towards this option of cancelling or keeping it private if this behavior continues as I know my dad wouldn't have wanted things like this.
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Tell the uncle if he wants to pay for the funeral he can do whatever he wants. I bet he will back off pretty quick.
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reg1234 Mar 2023
Good idea 👍
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I can not believe how many times I read about arguments about/over a funeral.
My goodness these people have DIED they could not care less about what you do.
The exception is...someone that has carefully planned out the service/celebration they want.
So a lesson to us all.
We are ALL going to die. PLAN what you want now when you are able to do so. Pay for it as well. With the cost of everything going up this can only save money in the future.

For family members that are not involved with planning keep rude remarks to yourself. (If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all)

For those planning..remember what your loved one was like. If they did not like a lot of "bells and whistles" they were not extravagant, I am sure they would not have wanted a lavish send off. Keep it Simple!
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I was a Family Counselor at a funeral home. I saw a lot of this ridiculous behavior. This is your father, you know best how to plan his service. PERIOD. If others don't like it, tough.

You would be surprised at how dramatic funerals could become. (To the point of authorities being called.)

I hope you can find peace through all of this.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
Victoria.

The last time that I went to a funeral for a friend, I was casually speaking with an employee at the funeral home.

The sister of my friend that died was telling this employee that she hoped there wasn’t any ugly drama at her sister’s funeral because some of her family members are nuts!

The funeral employee told her that she hoped that her funeral would be peaceful. Then she said that she had seen fights break out between family members in the funeral home.

It is truly sad that some people are not able to be respectful during a funeral and forget about their differences at least until the funeral is over.
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I'm so sorry this happened to you.
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Reg, my condolences for your loss and also for dealing with such absolute butt rash of relatives.

FWIW for anyone anticipating military burial at one of their cemeteries, please try to find out IF the cemetery you were planning has space available and the TYPE of space (casket or only cremains) and IF there will be a significant time delay for burial.
So if this is part of your planning, please look into this and factor it in. Your funeral home will have to store the body or have it transferred to a FH in the city where the military cemetery is located if it’s running a significant “hold” for casket in ground burials.
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Adding to Igloo's reply. My town is lucky that we have a small National Cemetery. My FIL was in WWII and my in-laws lived across the Street from the cemetery and yrs before their deaths they put their name in for a lot. When the time came, I called the cemetery office and set up everything with them. You get a plaque, the lot and a military service. It was really nice and no cost to u. Both were cremated.

The County VA cemeteries are a little different in costs. I think, the lot is free, the plaque is free, but someone mentioned on the forum you may have to pay for opening of the grave. I was to my Uncles service and it was nice.

What is nice about a National Cemetery is that Wreaths across America is done every year in Dec around the 15th of the month on a Sat. Every grave gets a wreath. You can donate to offset the cost of the wreaths. Very pretty.
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InFamilyService Mar 2023
Yes, both my parents are resting at the National Cemetery. What a beautiful and peaceful place. We had similar arrangements.
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I'd just joined a carpool for my new job, and one of the members had a horrible old car that had holes in the floorboard so bad that we could see the road underneath. The second week I was in the carpool on the day he was supposed to drive, another woman picked me up. I asked where he was, and she said they'd all told him the carpool had disbanded and that she and I would be driving to work in her car for the next two weeks. Then we'd regroup with a new member driver. They'd asked him before to drive his other newer car, but he'd refused. And we were traveling almost an hour each way on a 70 mph road. I was a paying carpool member, not a driver, and was relieved that the unsafe car was gone. Never saw him again.

What does this have to do with this funeral situation?

You could cancel the funeral, regroup, and do it without the troublemaker(s). Just sayin'.
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If you are the one arranging the funeral/memorial service (or paying for it), do what gives you comfort. The memorial is not for the person who passed away but for those still living. If family members give unsolicited advice/"help", the diplomatic answer is always, "Thank you for you input and concern. I will consider what you have said." Saying this makes the other person feel valued, but does not obligate you to doing anything that person requests. After the service, take some time to process your feelings and do what is most comforting/healing for you. Unfortunately, it usually will be a private process or may include only a few trusted friends/family.
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Arrange the funeral, and if you want, tell them where and when via email. Don't answer their calls prior to the event. It's their choice to come or not, and I'll bet they behave if they do show up. You have other fish to fry rather than engage in their drama.

Or, just tell them it has been called off and proceed with your plans without them.
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InFamilyService Mar 2023
Perfect advice, absolutely.
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I had a similar experience with my only sibling, a sister. She picked the funeral home and made arrangements without me although we had a conversation prior.
She asked my daughter to host a family meal at her home and then all of her family were a no show and no call!!!!!!
I have chosen to let her go out of my life and I am better for it. It has been over four months now with no communication from her.

The priority is getting your Dad buried. Nothing else matters. You are his child and its your honor to do so. Go ahead with your plans. Leave them out of it.

If they come fine and if not fine.
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Im so sorry for the loss of you dad. Plan the funeral exactly how you want it, unless dad left you instructions.

If people don't want to come, they won't. The people who do matter will show up, unless they physically can't.

I know it is hurtful. Perhaps this is their way of expressing their grief, but it is completely disfunctional and unhealthy for others to be around it. For now, just ignore unsupportive family members and allow yourself to grieve.

Contact the relatives who are behaving poorly to give them information to attend, once the arrangements are complete. If they balk, tell them the arrangements have already been made. Then cut the conversation short by stating that you need to call a long list of relatives and friends, but that you hope to see them there, you love them and you will talk to them.soon, and hang up before they can comment. That should get the message across.

If they call back, tell them you are busy and will get with everyone after the funeral.

The funeral is the way the immediate family chooses to say goodbye, with the funds they have available, and others are there to support the immediate family in their time of grief. That is the whole purpose of a funeral.
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And.... yet another example of death either bringing out the best or worst in people, relationships. Grief and the trauma(s) associated with a death often exacerbate past grief combined with the present grief and, anticipatory grief ( what's next....).

1. Definitely go forward with a service to celebrate your father's life and, remember him.
2. It usually is a good idea to have a pastor, chaplain or other non religious professional ( if that applies to your father ) plan the service with you and, others ( family) directly involved with the service; and have this same person officiate at the service. We are prepared to navigate the very circumstances you are describing among family members; we are prepared to include you and others you / family name to participate in the service. It sounds like you are " trying to plan the service " without these support services.

3. The funeral or cremation services you have used can make referrals to you to assist with the above, if you do not already have one nor know of one where you are having the service.

4. It is usually best practice to have someone from the funeral directing services present, as well as the pastor, chaplain or other selected professional who is officiating the service; these people help to ensure that the proper respect for the deceased as well as all bereaved persons attending are honored.

5. After you have planned the service with the professional of your choice, send whatever announcement (s) appropriate to inform everyone of the service date, time, location.

6. Screen your phone calls, respond to electronic messages sparingly; keep communication limited and civil , brief. This will help with your much needed self care.
Practice other good self care...see your PCP, stay hydrated, exercise, get outside some, meditate or pray as is appropriate for you.... surround yourself with caring , supportive people only.....
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In my world I would set it up and whoever attends…attends. No energy left in me to deal with nonsense. Anyone who was hateful would never hear from me after after the service. Good Luck.
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Plan the funeral you want for your father. Or choose to have no funeral at all.
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Others can also have a memorial service of their choice. It needn't be a struggle.
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Sorry for your loss and that you have to deal with family members acting this way. As others have said here, I would do what I wanted to honor my father and if they choose not to participate then that’s on them. I wish you the best in getting through this difficult time.
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Sorry for your loss.

I was a son taking care of my mom. Each year, mom and I would review important documents: POA, will, healthcare proxy, and funeral arrangements, including her obituary. We would then sign a sheet I prepared noting our review. Her funeral arrangements were simple: No visitation, no church service. Just a small service for immediate family at the funeral home and cemetery. She had her outfit picked out, along with a pair of shoes.

On the day of her death, while I was extremely upset, I was prepared as I knew her wishes. Only after I had touched base with the funeral director did I notify my siblings (They had no role in her caregiving). I told them what was to happen and when. If they wanted to see mom, they needed to be there at the appropriate time. End of discussion.

They showed up and were surprised at how great mom looked at age 93 (She looked years younger and the funeral director did not have to do much with her appearance). The service at the funeral home and cemetery was brief and dignified. My siblings left the cemetery and I stayed until the cover to her vault was secured. I never brought up the cost of the funeral with my siblings and they never asked. The funeral director worked within my budget, and mom received the appropriate send off to her eternal rest.

Think about your dad, and forget the rest of the noise.
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Reg, I am so sorry for your loss.

May The Lord give you peace, strength and wisdom during this difficult time.

One thing I learned with my mom's recent passing, other are mourning her loss and sometimes their grief bumps into mine and it has sharp edges. They aren't trying to be hurtful or difficult, they are dealing the best they can, as am I. Be kind and gentle with yourself and remember everyone lost him and they aren't at their best right now either. Don't make decisions about anything during this difficult time, everything is to raw.

Great big warm hug!
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It’s your dad. You plan the service in whatever way you think will honor him and comfort you. It’s ok to put distance between yourself and these clods who have no sensitivity and just stick with those who understand what you are going through.
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Your quandry is why pre-planning one's funeral is so important. You haven't provided us with the details of your plan but it sounds like it may be too over the top for your family members.
Scale back, simple prayers and remembrances with his favorite music whether it be jazz, country or classical and it keep it to no more than 30 minutes.
Also, create a memorial service program with all your other plans along with basic family history and your dad's life story as well as memorial donations.
Please don't use go fund me because these donations ARE NOT considered taxed deductible donations because they are not going to a registered non-profit 501C.
Keep it simple -- plan an small annual gathering as a remembrance to your dad -- keep it small and simple
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My heart goes out to you.
Nothing like grieving a huge loss with family discord-I am so sad for you going through this.

My personal gut response: do what you feel to honor your dad. Let the family 'chips fall where they may.' You won't be able to 'mend' all this internal family conflict, anger, resentments - now or perhaps ever.

Keep it simple and as peace-filled as possible for you, knowing you are doing this for your dad.

Set boundaries always remembering that the focus is on your dad and honoring him. All else falls by the wayside.

I suggest that you do not respond 'too much' to how / what others say to you. It is how family's feelings / anger, etc. come out ... by keeping that conversation going. They are NOT thinking of you and your loss. They are solely in their own emotional 'stuff' - and taking it out on you.
- When / if you continue to have these conversations, try to not respond other than the focus of planning and logistics. Change the subject or just send out an email of the itinerary. You don't need this aggravation.

I am so sad you are going through this. Most people, in most situations, only express themselves through their own experience. They are (unaware) unable to shift their consciousness to how another feels and focus on the needs at hand.

Gena / Touch Matters
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Who did more for you and meant more to you in your life? Them or Dad? Clear choice me thinks!
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