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My mom is in a memory care center...with Alzheimer's and she was just told that she got e coli chronic bacteria....can anyone tell me how serious is this...she is in pain with burning and pain...doctor tole me that there is nothing more he can do for her..I am not giving up that easy..what should or can I do...thanks

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Do you mean that she has a UTI that they have determined is E. Coli based? Are they treating this with antibiotics? Please ask the doctor if by "nothing they can do about this" s/he is suggesting that Hospice be called.
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He said that she got this because of all the antibiotic she has taking for the pass few years...and no antibiotic will help..he said that if he gives her antibiotics it will make it worse..
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What she got antibiotics will not help...I hate to see her in this pain...
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E. Coli is a bacterium that is found in feces, both human and animal. It may be that this bacteria that she has is resistent to antibiotics. Is this the doctor at the assisted living facility? If so, I think you have two choices. You opt for more aggressive treatment by getting her to a hospital via ambulance or you opt for comfort care (painkillers and no treatment of the infection) by calling Hospice. I'm so sorry that your mom is in pain. If nothing else, RIGHT NOW, she should be on painkillers to ease that so that you can evaluate the situation.
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That is the bacteria that she got is resistant to antibiotics...I asked him about putting her in the hospital...but he said that's not a option for her...this is her primary doctor not one at the center...would taking her to a urology help..thank you so much for you kind answers...
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She is on pain meds..right now..
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Motherof5, what is he suggesting that you do? I think you need to ask him a very direct question about this. Is he saying that mom is dying? Sometimes doctors skirt around saying that, but it's time to ask. And if the answer is yes, time to call Hospice, I would think. My thoughts and prayers are with you both.
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Thank you I we just do that...we have another appointment on Friday...and he will just have to give me some answers...thank you so much...
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If your mom is in pain, get her some relief sooner than that. I would call and talk to the doctor on the phone; perhaps without your mom present at first would be easier for you both. Good luck!
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I absolutely agree with Babalou. If she is in pain with burning I would be making immediate arrangements to get her to the hospital and not waiting until Friday. If that is not feasible a call right into the doctor to get more information as to what exactly is going on and find out why he says there is nothing more he can do for her.
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Thank you...I will give him s call today and tell him to give me some answers now...thanks so much..
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It never hurts to get a second opinion, even if the opinion comes from a hospitalist. I agree with the above comment, sometimes doctor's skirt around the issue of death and dying. If there is nothing he can do, I'd ask him exactly what does he mean, if she is dying then what about comfort measures?
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motherof5, were you able to get further info. and the answers you were looking for?
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Call Hospice PLEASE don't let her suffer pain.
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I have a call in to the doctor...waiting for him to call me back...hope I can get some answers from him...thanks so much everyone....really helps to get help and support from everyone...as far as hospice...they are telling me at the center where my moms is that she will not qualify...this is something I will ask doctor to...will keep yall updated..
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I just want to mention, with regard to Hospice, only a doctor can certify that your mother is eligible or not. A nurse or a social worker might offer an opinion, but in this situation, I wonder if the person who told you that she's not eligible knows/understands how I'll she is.

I would ask mom's doctor what s/he'd do if this were her mom. I've asked this question of doctors when they've given me a whole long list of things we "could" do. The "your mom" question has gotten me some very blunt and honest answers. Above all, as Pam says, the pain must be addressed at almost any cost.
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How ill she is.
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well the doctor set my mom a appointment with a urology...doctor said that maybe he can give us answer...he order more pain meds...so that should help we see other doctor...said that he wants to see what the other doctor says before we call in hospice..thanks
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I'm glad you've got an option for another opinion, Mother. Please let us know how this goes. And remember, if she's in pain, you have to be the one making the noise to get her relief!
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yep thanks so much...she's got the pain meds now so I am glad...will keep everyone posted...thanks ...One thing I do not understand which I sure this doctor will answer...can this bacteria go to the kidneys...because today she was complaining about her back hurting..
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Read about e coli on web md
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Yes, some strains can go to the kidneys, cause severe anemia and even cause death.
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Have you told the doctor about the back pain
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Yep I did mention it to doctor...he said to be sure and watch her for fever...if she gets fever to give him a call..the doctor appointment is not till March 6th....I tried to get one sooner than that but no luck...thanks...I will look this up on the web med page...thanks again to all...
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Do they have your mother in isolation at her memory care facility at this time to prevent passing it to other residents? If so be sure to watch for depression as well as it can creep up fast.
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No there was nothing said of isolation by the center or doctor...should there be..I know I have to be on top of this memory care center all the times about keeping things clean in the bathroom...
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I'm not a professional but in the cases at my father's facility we have had to use face masks; gowns and gloves until the antibiotics are complete. It can be passed person to person until controlled.
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Wow dnt know that...I will asked the doctor about that they have not said anything about that..and will ask the nurse about that also...I know when I visit my mom I make sure I wash my hands and take a shower when I get home...I know there has been about 5 or 6 of the ladies in the center that has uti and had to get on meds...
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D-Mannose, which is available over the counter (I buy it on Amazon) is very effective with recurrent E. coli UTI infections. This has been proven in clinical trials.

D-Mannose is a kind of sugar that occurs naturally in cranberries, to which E. coli bacteria like to stick. D-Mannose isn't absorbed well by the body so it passes out of the body in the urine. While it is in the bladder, the E. coli bacteria will stick to the D-Mannose; then when one urinates, the D-mannose and E. coli pass out of the body together as a unit.

Here is one article, but there is a lots more information on the Internet:
chriskresser/treat-and-prevent-utis-without-drugs

I had my mother on this and it cleared up her problem-- and I take it myself.
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OMG, go get another doctor. There ARE treatments for MRSA that do work, but they are extremely expensive. Sounds like someone is trying to avoid spending some money -- they need to at least try to treat this infection! I bet the NH knows they won't get reimbursed for anything near what they will be paying their pharmaceutical supplier for those meds, and your mom's doctor knows this, so he's just not prescribing it. Either that, or he's a quack. You need to transfer mom to a different NH, too, since that one is clearly dirty. She would not have a MRSA infection, if there were any real infection control policies in place.
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