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I often think so-called medical advancements are not all that great. So we live longer. Quality of life isn't that great and others' lives begin a journey of hell. Quite frankly, I don't want to live past my 70s if even that. Few actually enjoy quality living and many think quality living is chomping a couple dozen pills each day. Though big pharma enjoys huge profits off this charade, the reality is that simply having a beating heart and breath does not quality equate! The world has gotten increasingly complex, many people are self-absorbed and have no ability to think about the next person or they live in their own world where their mind has taken them. I've heard many elderly say they wish "it were over". They say this because they're living a dead life. Perhaps we're all headed there where we're minimized to just food tubes and waste expellers. Exhaustedone your post brings up many issues. I wish the best for you and hope that you find some peace cause what you're going through is not living, it's existing. Know it well, but wish I didn't.
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Karen51 Dec 2020
I agree 100%. I often say it’s not suicide to die a natural death. Quality over quantity. My husband had vascular dementia and my Mum now has Alzheimer’s. I so do not want this for me. If I start dying, depending on my quality of life I will allow death to happen. As a Christian it will only be a short while for me till I see our Redeemer coming so I am not concerned. I am concerned with how I treat my children now and in the future, and I do not want to burden them more than what they saw as children with their Dad.
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Venting is one of the best ways to get it out! No judgement here. I know how you feel! Prayers help me a lot! Take it one day at a time! Don’t look ahead! You can do this!
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Wow - and just think - you very well could end up like your parents someday, God willing, and who will be there for you with such loving enthusiasm?
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Caro0413 Dec 2020
What kind of god wants people to decline to a point where they can't even wipe their own hind end and can't participate in life in any way and continue to decline for decades? And what kind of parent refuses to take any sort of responsibility for their own elder care before they get to the point of needing it? There's an awful lot of blame throwing onto care givers. From what I see, few people are talking about the elephant in the room: parents who just slide into advanced age without giving any consideration to how they'll be cared for, and especially no consideration for the people who will give that care.
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I hear you. You just needed to vent. No judgement.
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My 91 year old mother thinks I, as a single woman, should give up my life and cross-country location entirely to be her free slave. I can't afford my own future, but she doesn't consider my circumstances at all.

Meanwhile my three siblings, including one sister, who are all home owners (multiple homes in two cases) with well to do children and no worries about their financial futures are not expected to do anything.

Oddly, my mother doesn't expect my sister with an 8 bedroom mansion (and children moved out), maid, groundskeepers to do anything, though she could easily take my mother in because her one home includes a separate wing that was originally designed for servants.

Ironically my mother didn't take in her own mother, though my mother was widowed at that point, owned her 4 bedroom home and had all adult children. She stuck her mother in a nursing home. But I'm not expected to have any life....
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Cascia Dec 2020
My dad has an aide 4 hours a day- my mom the other day said what does it matter he's single and has non responsibilities. Like for myself she doesn't think that because I am single I deserve any kind of life or have anything to do - what do I need to do, why can't I help and be there at her beck and call at any moment. Being single actually you have more to do because there is no one to fall back on, no one to pick up the slack, no one to help you get through the rough days. If it wasn't for the aide I would have lost my marbles by now. Neither parent had to deal with elder care but neither thinks the burden may be too much for me to handle and they only have me, I'm exhausted and I know it's only going to get worse, at the moment everything is stable but one sick and pushing 88 the other 85 - its not an easy road ahead for me no matter which way you cut it. I manage everything at this point and they have tenants to boot.....not once do I get asked if I am managing or if I need something, if I am OK. I don't have a lot of guilt, I do have thoughts what if I had done x,y or z differently maybe I could have helped him better but that is bound to happen we are always haunted with our choices emotionally although intellectually we know they were the best we could do at the time. My mom has never been very positive about me and I do everything it's just the way it is I am used to it but it still hurts deeply.
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I understand you. I’m taking care of my mom almost two years now. Of course I get burnt out but I stepped up and made this choice. You think you will have guilt if you found a place for her. You will have more guilt with being with her with this resentment that you have for all the complaining you’re doing. Life is not fair. But you have to start thinking in maturity form. Embrace yourself and start living and stop doing things you don’t want to do. You are in charge of your own destiny.
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You need to come to terms with the fact that there are no good options!!!
imho you need to find the best care home you /they can afford and be the sweet loving daughter you used to be.
There will receive proper care activities and lots new company with 3 shifts people around the clock. You’ll visit and be there for good times.
you can’t expect your parents think this thru logically ... they’re no longer able.
you’ll have to deal with guilt like all of us but decide this was best solution for everyone.
now nobody’s doing well !
we’ve all been there !!
best luck
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I can feel your anger and totally get it.  My grandmother, nor mother ever had to take care of their parents.  I was like you....mad at everything.  Not living any quality of life, exhausted all the time and mad at the world.  My advice to you is to place your mom.  There will still be much to manage, but you will have a life and your care for her won't be 24/7.  Just do it.  I don't know if her needs are nursing home or assisted living...doesn't matter.  Don't ask your siblings for their opinion.  Just tell them you are placing her and if anyone wants to step in and take on moms care, now is the time.  Yes or no is all you're looking for to that question.  Outside of that...nothing to discuss.  Just do it.
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marymary2 Dec 2020
I love your answer - especially the part about not asking siblings. I asked mine, who never did anything, and wasted oodles of time getting no help. Instead they challenged everything despite not having seen my mother for years and me being with her 24/7. As James says, DON'T ASK!
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May God help you through this. I know a touch of what you are feeling, as due to my circumstances growing up, I felt cheated out of my teen years. I realize that is small compared to your experiences, but to an immature teen, it seemed as if the world was against you. I pray you can find yourself in more :"fair" circumstances asap,. God bless you for what you've already put up with. Please investigate alternative situations for your mom. Don't expect anyone else to understand - my dad felt I betrayed him when I put him in a nursing homer because the doctor told me if I didn't I would kill him (I didn't have the skills of an RN nor the physical equipment he needed.) Keep sharing your feelings with whiomever you can - it helps.
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I feel your pain🤗
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I hear you. :)
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You took the first step in sounding off your true feelings. Now get some help - counseling.
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Carla CB: "Unfortunately, I think that the more of us do it, the more it becomes the norm, and the more it becomes expected that adult children will sacrifice years and even decades of their lives to caring for their elderly parents. To me that's the worst of the problem - that the trend is going the wrong way. Even as it becomes commonplace for people to survive into their children's old age, and even as demographics and career goals make parent care even more of a burden that it ever was, the expectation is becoming more and more fixed in people's minds. So when the parent grows old and can't manage their "independent" lifestyle without help, it's automatically assumed that some family member somewhere will put their own life on hold for years to help the parent through the end of theirs. I'm not endorsing this practice, not at all. I'm just telling it the way I think it is."

I hadn't looked at it this way, Carla, but you are right! And hasn't it been mentioned here that one of the possible plans for handling the huge onslaught of aging Baby Boomers is to provide some kind of "support" to families? So there you go -- it's still going to be on the families!

ExhaustedOne, how did it come to be that you had to be the one who had to take on the caregiving? I'm always interested to read how that happens. Please make the choice to NOT do this any longer, as it is affecting your physical, mental, and emotional health.
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disgustedtoo Dec 2020
"...how did it come to be that you had to be the one who had to take on the caregiving? I'm always interested to read how that happens."

For me, it was either take it on myself or leave mom to her own devices, which were not working due to dementia. Although she was "okay" alone in her condo for a while, it wasn't going to last. Initially I tried bringing in aides, to get her used to them, for the min 1 hr/day but that didn't last 2 months (she refused to let them in.) Plan B was to find a safe place for her. I did all the prep work, making sure all documents were updated, searching for places, etc. At first, both brothers didn't see the issue (blind? deaf? nope, just clueless.) Once they did, they were okay discussing options and went to check out some places. Again, clueless, because after the first place, they had "sticker shock" at the cost! Both said, with gleams in their eyes, for that kind of money, they'd take her in! Riiiight. They couldn't even be bothered to visit her, and they were going to care for her 24/7? HAH!

While I would have been happy to share the necessary tasks with them, I got the door slammed in my face, multiple times. Fingers too. OB just bellowed at me to "Give it up" with no offer of another plan. YB told me that the facility takes care of everything. Sure they do.

So, in the interest of ensuring my mother wasn't left hanging out to dry AND ensuring everything was properly taken care of, I gave up on them and just did it myself, including the visits. No guilt or regrets for moving her into MC. She got excellent care. She was happy most of the time. She will be VERY missed by the staff (the outpouring of care and sorrow at the impending loss was very apparent from them - from bros? Hah.)

So, basically I wanted to be sure she got the best care and that everything else was managed PROPERLY. I couldn't count on those two clowns for anything... except maybe their hand out when the end arrived. If I could, I would slap their hands as I hand them their "share" of what's left.
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I get it...you are tired and burnt out. I also get that most of these parents had a full retired life and never took care of an elder. I know you need to vent. Been there!!
but here is the deal and where the rubber meets the road. You should decide right now..are you enjoying being controlled by so called "guilt"? If not, then do as you wrote and place them in assisted living already. There is nothing written that says you must give up all semblance of a life. Guilt implies wrong doing. It is not wrong to find a place for her to live where PAID shifts of caregivers will take care of her needs. She is a human not a cancer and truly deserves to be put where she can get care and you can then return to being a daughter and getting some of your life back. This will sound tough and I don’t mean to be hard hearted but I am pragmatic....do it or don’t complain. You truly are in control of how you are going to handle this. Best of luck.
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Kris82 Dec 2020
Much easier said than done. Especially the way things are now. I am in her situation. And nursing homes arent the greatest. Most of them that can be afforded by blue collar people are very underfunded and understaffed. And now with covid running through homes like crazy, it's even worse. And if she does decided to put her family in care, it's pretty much dropping them off and saying bye because of visitor policies. Yeah, phone calls, great. But this person seems to be just burnt out (as am i) so theres obviously love still there and wouldnt want them to be in that kind of situation.
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You need to place your loved ones immediately. Guilt can be managed.
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Sometimes the greatest gift we can give our parent(s) and ourselves is finding placement in a caring seniors facility. Then you become the child who has meaningful visits making memories instead of feeling stressed and annoyed.
Set your boundaries firm and stick to them. I have both parents nearly 90. I take care of their meds, cleaning and a few meals a week. That’s it. Any personal care needs have to come from elsewhere. When either of them can’t function in their own place they will move to a facility. My boundaries stand.
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Some people are not caretaker material and sometimes the load is just too great for one person even if they are good caretakers. Maybe it would be better for all if they were in an assisted living place. Living in resentment and being pushed by guilt does not help you or your parents. You would feel very guilty if your parents didn't get the treatment they should because you were not emotionally equipped to handle it. It's time to quit worrying about what others think when you are the one the burden is on. Tell them if they can do a better job you will turn your parents over to them. If not, they need care you can no longer provide.
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I was trying the last few years to explain to my parents that things need to be adjusted- specifically their living situation- some changes made, neither had to deal with elderly parents. Now dad is in need of a lot of help mom bless her complicated soul is complicated as always, I am single no siblings - I tried my damndest to get ahead of the game to tell them it will be a lot for me to handle on my own. My fathers response well that's the way it has to be, and he's a kind person- no appreciation for the burden they are putting on me and no suggestions as to the ways they could help make it a smaller burden. I'm still in one piece mostly due to terrific aide but often feel like I am on the edge of a precipice. I can deal with the tangible stuff - the intangible, the inflexibility and no ability to look ahead for a few weeks or months is difficult for me as all I could see is what is coming and it feels like a tsunami will hit any minute.

My suggestions were always met with "not yet, not now" we are at the yet now and it's all my responsibility as there is no on else to pick up the slack. In some ways am thankful for covid as it gives me the ability to be with them every day, I would have had to take family leave otherwise, they count on me for everything including translation services. I don't know if they feel any guilt but it doesn't seem like it, Not once do I get are you ok?
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No one can place unearned guilt on you. Just because they say it doesn't make it so.

Your anger and resentment isn't good for any of you, so yes, find a nice place for them (assisted living won't take someone who can't toilet themselves), and live your life.

You're responsible for making sure they're safe and cared for. You are not required to martyr yourself.
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What everyone has said.

When the ILs were healthy, there'd be beach house trips where she'd talk about how the kids were waiting on her and that's HOW IT SHOULD BE.

FFIL's mother died in 2018 at age 103 in a home. FFIL did not upend his life for her, or insist that she move to his house, nor did he and FMIL move out there. He spent maybe two hours visiting in the last five years of her life.
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You say ‘But then there’s the guilt’. What about your parents’ guilt? Don’t they feel guilty for taking over your life? If so, do they forgive themselves? If they have managed to ignore their own guilt, or to forgive themselves, why can’t you decide that you have inherited that ability from them?

How about you ask them? Say ‘I’m reaching the end of my ability to make my life revolve around you. I’m sure you feel guilty about it too. When I stop, what do you plan to do?’ Remember, it’s their responsibility to plan for their own future. You can give them 2 or 3 options to think about, but you are NOT ‘carting them off’ anywhere. You are stopping what you are doing now, and they work out what happens next.

Nothing will change until you decide to stop what you are doing. You stop, then things change. It’s a great New Years Resolution to take back your own life!
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CarlaCB Dec 2020
Hi Margaret -

I love what you said and I'd love to be able to agree with you. But I can't. It would be great to be able to just hand the problem back to the parent, and ask them how they plan to manage when the caregiver steps back. Unfortunately, I doubt that it will work. My mother, who had been a model of control and independence all her life, turned into a puddle of weepy helplessness at the mere suggestion that she try to handle any of her old-age issues on her own. It was thrown right back: "Well, what can I do? How will I manage? You know it's not safe for me to be left on my own!"

And I would not count on the parent feeling guilty about it either. My mother's attitude was that she could not help getting old, and needing help from her children. Our culture encourages and reinforces an attitude of entitlement on our parents' part - the belief that people's kids should step in and help them as the grow older. There's no competing norm of taking responsibility for one's own old age, or making an effort to burden one's children as little as possible. Those who claim the loudest that they never wanted to be a burden to their children may be the first to say "It's not my fault. I can't help that I need help."

Unfortunately, I think that the more of us do it, the more it becomes the norm, and the more it becomes expected that adult children will sacrifice years and even decades of their lives to caring for their elderly parents. To me that's the worst of the problem - that the trend is going the wrong way. Even as it becomes commonplace for people to survive into their children's old age, and even as demographics and career goals make parent care even more of a burden that it ever was, the expectation is becoming more and more fixed in people's minds. So when the parent grows old and can't manage their "independent" lifestyle without help, it's automatically assumed that some family member somewhere will put their own life on hold for years to help the parent through the end of theirs. I'm not endorsing this practice, not at all. I'm just telling it the way I think it is.
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Hi Again Exhausted One
The generation your caring for did not have to deal with this horror.

it is unfair , I thought about this for 2 years while I visited my dad in a nursing facility until he passed from Covid. He was dying but I kept fighting for him and killing myself with daily visits and constantly criticizing staff. I was a different person and it took years off my life.
I was missing out on my new granddaughter and so many times I was resentful. I ended up losing my job and my personality became bitter and resentful.
Dont let this happen to you
My father in law is going on 97
and my husband is going through the same thing. My husband is diabetic and his condition has worsened due to daily visits to his dad and his sister barely helping out

You have to be able to admit you can’t do any more by yourself
Best to you
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Its difficult to face the reality that you’ve given all you have. We weren’t meant to help our parents to our demise . If your health suffers your nothing to yourself or your family.
They will not get better .
There are so many positive aspects of AL or a nursing facility.
They get round the clock care by staff that come in fresh every 8 hours.
You get time to yourself and time to spend with them that is positive
instead of being there24/7 and being burned out the whole time.
Its a new way to help them they will benefit you as well.
best to you
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If we all thought about time like we do money. Our time would not be thrown away so haste. Really! When we are in stores and see something we like and we know our money has it limits. We ask ourselves "do I really need this?" "Can I afford this?" And yet, we never ask ourselves any questions when it comes to our time. In reality, we can always make some money...for the most part. But we can never get our time back and we can't make more of it!


Exhaustedone,
You need to let go of the guilt trip. I know it is so much easier said than done! You have done all that you can. You put up a good fight, now it is time to let go! It is time for you to think about you and there is no shame, no guilt in that! Have you ever looked up the word "guilt or guilty"? It implies that you are or have intentionally hurt someone or cause someone pain and that you did something wrong. You haven't done any of these things! You have been a good daughter. A good caretaker. You have done a good job and now it is time for you to fire yourself! You have reach to the end of your rope...you have gone beyond what a good child would do! No one (Drs & researchers) ever thinks about what they really are doing by prolonging life. The consequences it will have. The unfairness that it brings!

I really think if you had a friend telling you this story (your story) you would tell them the same thing we are telling you. It is time for your parents to go to AL!! Trust me, if my mother had the money she would be in AL faster than a New York minute! I would not feel one bit of guilt! I am Done!!! I am over the guilt trips! I am over taking care of someone who never took care of me! I am over with caring for someone who doesn't appreciate me or what I have done! I have a new vision for what I want my life to look like and caring for my self-center, self-entitle and who wants to make my life h3ll mother is not in that vision!

Like I have told people in the past "I love you, but I love me more!" That is how you need to think about it!!

You matter...you count...you need to take care of you!
And your right...it is unfair!

Hugs!!!
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Karen51 Dec 2020
Oh, that statement about time is spot on! I must remember it.
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This is why I WANT my kids to put me in a nursing home. I do not want to do this to them!

Forget about what your siblings say or think. You need to start taking care of yourself both physically and emotionally. There is NO shame in you placing your mom in a facility.
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Graykayaging Dec 2020
Thanks for your input. This site is filled with caretakers but to hear the thoughts of a person who will be cared for is enlightening. I wish there was more insight from this group. I don’t have kids and I too figure it is inevitable that I end up in a facility.
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Hey ExhaustedOne. It took me a while to respond after reading your post because I was laughing over the epitaph reading: "Died because she refused to wipe her a**" LOL. That was priceless. If she refuses to wipe her a** or have it wiped for her then let her stay in it. One good UTI or bit of skin breakdown will cause her enough pain that she'll change her mind about that one.
You've done your time in caregiver prison with no help from your siblings. Your sentence is now done. Put her in a home. Most of us totally understand the resentment and anger you're having because in truth it really is not fair and you are getting cheated. The elderly of today who we are caring for did not have to become caregivers to their parents because elderly then did not live to the point where they became ornery and abusive infants that had to be cared for 24 hours a day. Don't sacrifice your life because you can be guilted into believing that your life belongs to your elderly parents and should be spend in servitude to them. It doesn't. I want you to think about this. When you are old and looking back on your life, will you be glad that you missed out on so much of it because you spent it in servitude to ingrate seniors who appreciate nothing and whose sense of entitlement is so outrageous that they actually believe their own kids should become slaves to them? Because somehow it's owed to them? Don't do that to yourself and your life. Find an assisted living facility or nursing home and take back your life.
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LakeErie Dec 2020
^^^This!!!^^^👏👏👏👏
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I can totally relate to your feelings....Hugs
We were pretty much in the same boat with my mom also. She would refuse to get a bath for weeks at a time and refuses to let anyone help her with anything. If I would even ask to go in the bathroom with her it would just cause a fight and finally just gave up. I’m sure she’s not getting the care she needs nor does she want it. We were dealing with dementia even though we never got an official diagnosis because all the COVID started and just got tired of arguing with her all the time. She always would say we are picking on her when we would ask her to do something she didn’t want to do. We are still dealing and have no placement but hoping it happens soon
Best of luck in your journey and know you are not alone.....
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Thinking back, my parents never put forth as much time, energy and hard work into their own parents care. However, I remember my mother spending one Father’s Day at the nursing home with her dad. I remember it was more about how she “looked” to others. She never had to do any direct caregiving for him. She worked full-time and that was her priority. Of course, I ended up taking a leave of absence from work to basically to schedule an out
of town specialist appointment for stepdad, stopped and purchased a wheelchair for him and spent three weeks driving her to and from the hospital, because she will not drive in metropolitan areas. I drove her home for a weekend. The minute we arrived, she complained that the grandchildren had not mowed and edged her lawn properly. I live 4 hours away. I left my family and job to basically take care of her husband and be her servant. Neither of my parents would have gone to this extent for their parents. I am truly baffled for choosing to make those choices! What was I thinking or trying to prove?? I have learned a lot about myself and my capabilities and limitations over the past two years.
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You’ve already received wonderful advice and encouragement here. I can only add that my hope for you is the courage to make a change and replace resentment, guilt, and anger with a new plan, one that provides professional care that isn’t possible the way things are. It’s in no way your fault that your mother is in the condition she is, or that she requires more care than you can give. I wish you peace and courage
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You will get over the guilt of carting them off to an assisted living place. You matter. Trust me when I say not only will you will get over the guilt of carting them off to an assisted living place but you will be pleasantly surprised when they adjust and are around people their own age to whom they can kvetch and complain to their hearts' delight. Your wish then will be "I wish I'd carted them off sooner"!
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