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After a long 9 to 5 day. I just spent the last 4 hours giving my bedridden Mom an enema and watching the poop slowly fall. She hadn't passed stool for 10 days....despite us trying just about every laxative we could find on the shelf.



This is our life now. I know I've been posting here for a few years now but....it's frustrating....everytime I feel like I've got a groove in caring for my Mom....she gets worse...and requires more time to care for.



Like seriously how did we go from... walking and eating slowly. To getting her surgery to having a PEG tube placed last month.



After just 1 week in the hospital for the PEG tube...she has never walked since.



And now her constipation is worse. She has graduated from needing daily laxative....to needing it twice.....to needing an enema.



I hate my life sometimes.

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I’m sorry your Mom is getting worse.

About bowels and digestion, I think that the fact that she no longer gets up is partially to blame for the constipation and the laxative.

Can you introduce more fibrous foods in her diet? Look on the internet for high fiber. I’ve had a lot of success with beans, lentils, watermelon, cabbage, broccoli, etc. I remember some preparations of apples and carrots, as well as white rice and white bread were to be avoided.

Your Mom’s use of laxatives might be the reason for the constipation also. When you have a wee bit of time, google “are laxatives bad for you”. Have you talked to her doctor about her digestive issues?

I admire you. I can not do what you are doing. It takes quite a bit from me just to brush her teeth.
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PeggySue2020 Sep 2022
Op said his mom is on a stomach tube.
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I'm sorry to hear that your mother's health is declining. Have a plan if her care gets to be too much for you to do by yourself. Connect with a local social worker who can explain her options. She may be eligible for additional in-home aides or nurses who can help you. Take all the help you can get so you can get some breaks. (But if people are coming into your home, lock up the valuables and personal papers, especially financial papers). All the best to you and a big hug.
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My mom was anemic, so I gave her prescribed liquid ferrous sulfate (in orange juice) daily. To address the constipation that was a side effect, her Dr. prescribed Polyethylene Glycol 3350 (also in orange juice). It worked.

Addressing the issue of siblings, I have three. None were involved in the care of my Mom. In fact they new nothing of her health issues (cateract surgery, hip surgery), and never inquired. I had my hands full, and to be honest, I did not want any interference. The only time I discussed her situation with them was when she died, and I told them about the arrangements. They came to the funeral, and left right after. They never questioned me, and I was able to close the estate with no problem. I'm not sure what kind of relationship I will have with them going forward.

Every time I read a comment from a fellow caregiver, I realize how lucky I was with my mom. Not until the last few days of her life, when her personality changed dramatically (Another TIA combined with a UTI diagnosis), did she ever complain about how I was taking care of her. Not even when it came to the point where I was cleaning her hind end at least three times a day (always accompanied with a new pull-up), and helping her wash her body (She loved it when I used a warm cloth on her back). I would ask all the time, "Mom, do you mind that I, as your son, are so personal with you? Her response was always, "No."

It was hard to see a once vibrant woman, who was active in her field of business right up until age 85, slowly begin to fade as the years passed. She died in January at age 93, just a day after she was admitted to the hospital. I was able to keep her home home right up until then. I always say I was proud to be with her as she completed the journey to the sunset of her life. Boy, do I miss her.
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2ndTimothy Sep 2022
As I, you're in a very rare and exclusive group of men that care (or have cared) for their mother.

You stating how you miss your mother makes me think about how I will be in those shoes one day. Even though the load is heavy, I keep taking it day by day, treating her as I would like to be treated. Mom gets the best care in my house, and the doctors continue to credit the care with why she has lived more than twice the years they said she would with her condition.

My hat is off to you!
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I'm jealous of people whose parents are already dead!
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Nesrin Sep 2022
Why don't you say 'I wish I was dead, so my parents would not be dependent on me'; or why don't you put him/her in a nursing home and pay for it... I fear you are hanging around them to benefit from it all.
I had never heard such a statement from anybody. But, then again, I respect your candidness, and you sincerely sharing your feelings.
SORRY, for my harsh statement but could not stay without a reaction: I certainly cannot remember how many times I have stared at a star or a cloud, or stared into a corner of a room, wishing I could see a glimps of them to feel in their presence, or could I dare to imagine one of them to talk to in her bones in a cloth bag hanging on a rusty nail too just be sharing the same room, irrespective of its size - 8 by 10 or 38 by 68, since I was 9...
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15 years ago I had to help my mostly bedridden mother in law was similar issues. She would get impacted so bad that we would take her to the ER so a nurse could physically remove it. We finally found a remedy at home. Mix one cup of carbonated water with one cup of prune juice. Heat it in the microwave for one minute. Have her drink it down. The combination of carbonation, warmth, hydration and prune juice worked great. Best of luck!
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Yes, that sounds awful. Your feelings of jealousy are very, very normal. No one wants to be trapped the way that you are.

What are your options in terms of care for your mother? Is there a facility where she can go?
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I get jealous of caregivers who have supportive siblings.
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hellokarma Sep 2022
One day Karma will visit our siblings.
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Please Pay for someone to come in and help or place her in a home if you’re done. You won’t be giving her the care she needs if you’re burnt out. I understand, and God bless you for all you’ve done and all your doing, but that’s the bottom line dear. Get help one way or another.
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I have wanted a different family dynamic for most of my life and good health is the major factor. My mother is 92. I saw her today at the SN facility and it was a difficult visit. Basically she can no longer make a telephone call out unless she is prompted and even then it is only successful about a third of the time. She can't hold the phone, press the numbers and position the pad with my number.

I wouldn't say I am jealous of others but I certainly have often wished I could switch places. I really don't know how much worse everything can get or maybe I do from seeing other residents and that thought is very frightening. I understand your wishes.
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I didn’t get jealous of people who had healthier parents but of siblings that did not help with our parents. To me their message was their life and family was so much important than mine.

It sounds like it may be time for placement. You can’t go on like this. I would start exploring the options now (which you may have already done or working on). It can be a long and difficult journey to accomplish the task of placement.

I can’t really say I know how you feel but I did walk that road and it was very difficult. It’s been almost a year since my mom passed and I’m just starting to heal from the trauma of the whole situation.

Good luck.
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Favegirl1 Sep 2022
Yes you hit the nail right on the head with the statement about siblings who consider their lives more important than the caregiver. My brother is a classic example. He couldn’t even ring or visit our father on Father’s Day. I rang him. “ Oh yeah I was going ring but…..” he says. Disgraceful.
My sister lives a long way but at least she rang to say Happy Fathers Day.
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Sometimes I feel overwhelming sadness when I read about others difficulties with their fathers. When they are called "daddy" has significant impact. I want to scream "just be happy you had him for so long"!

I tragically lost my dad when I was 12. 😧😧😢😢

Be grateful for the time you had!
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Llamalover47 Sep 2022
Glad: Sorry that you lost your dad when you were 12. I was 20 when I lost my father.
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Edit: Exveemon, sorry that I erred on your user name. I am sorry that the PEG tube implantation seemingly made things worse.
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Hi Op.
My sister is a high ranked surgeon, chair of her dept, published in pubmed and all that. Last time she had to work 24 hrs straight was as a resident. I can assure you she had nothing left.

The family made the decision, so they should share responsibility for the enemas. It is not like one has to have a md to administer them.
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That’s the problem when comparing to others. One is born to riches and fame, the other to a tiny hut in the middle of nowhere. One is healthy, good looking and happy, the other came to this earth with an incurable disease making those that care absorbe a burden for life. Not being able to come to terms with what life has dished out is a sad, loosing proposition. Yes, one drives a Lexus 460, the other a barely road worthy transportation. Comparing for what one does not have to those in better circumstances leads to jealousy, anger, and any other conceivable negative emotions, but all roads lead to the light or total darkness. Having to care for someone basically helpless is not a walk in the park, not everyone has what it takes. As long as a fair decision is reached, one can and should desist doing it. For the sake of your own peace of mind, and of those around. Sadly the washing of the hands started with Pilate and has proven that many strongly believe “if it has nothing to do with me I don’t need to worry too much”, one must urge themselves to veer off the negative path, be evolving towards kindness to oneself.
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Try the Metamucil cookies. They helped bulk my dad up and move the stools.
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Exveemom: I am sorry about your mother's decline. Hugs sent.
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I feel jealous of my friends parents who downsized their homes on their own. Communicating or thoughtfully passing along their belongings long before they die.

I feel jealous of my friends parents who can tie their shoes, use a credit card, use a telephone, drive a car, hold a conversation, make a sandwich.

I feel jealous of my friends families that have clear values and direction through community and religion.

I feel jealous of my friends who have lawyers or accountants in the family who helped them to arrange necessary paperwork. 

I feel jealous of those who have lawn/yard help, housecleaners and childcare. 

I feel jealous of friends of have big, full, established, all-in-one place families who take turns to help out.

I feel jealous of friends who don't have hoarders or mentally ill parents.

I feel jealous of people who take a break from caregiving to get their hair or nails done or buy new clothes. 

I feel jealous of friends parents who had clear mind and died of cancer. Or of parents who died quickly of a heart failure.

I have had to stop looking at Facebook because I feel so confused and depressed afterwards. I don't know how to participate without being the biggest Debbie Downer.

I am so sorry you are in this situation. It sounds so difficult. Please know from afar I wish you the best, peace and love.
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eat-pray-love Sep 2022
@Exveemon: How old is she? Does she live with you?? Doc expects her to walk again? Do you have any support? Any other family? Caregivers? Is she mentally stable or a pain in the A--? No pun intended, but it fits ;-) Seems she needs a medically induced enema. My Dad (retired Doc) struggled with this, esp last year of his life. Metamucil finally kicked in. His Son (my Stepbro) was just about to take him to his Doc for this. You need a break. This will not go on forever, but you need someone to come in for a few hrs periodically so you can get away... What does her Doc tell you re: prognosis? How are her labs?

@saintseal...I hear you. Glad you vented. Some of your poetic??expressions jumped off the page in bold red font as I (we all can relate) endure similar. "I feel jealous of my friends parents who downsized their homes on their own." We wanted to put my Parents in an Independent Living sitch before my Dad passed but my 79 yr old Mom wouldn't go for it. She yelled & cussed saying she was too young. He could've rec'd the care there/easier floorplan & she could've come & gone. (She barely does that now...like hardly ever) I am a Realtor & would be thrilled to purge/get repairs done & list for sale or to make her living nicer. Nope. Not allowed to. Now we keep her there (alone, even though she complains incessantly)..bc less costly than elsewhere as she doesn't require Caregivers yet. Her Doc says she would be kicked out of AL in 2 mins.
"Communicating or thoughtfully passing along their belongings long before they die (My Mom is Hoarder. I try to toss spoiled food & I am met with wrath-I do it anyway).
My NPD-Borderline-Early Onset Mom interrupts, yells, cusses.. embarrasses in public with A-Hole remarks. Then finishes every expression with "I am perfect!" I will not have her meet sig other & my grown Kids say same & re: their future children. "0" friends or hobbies. Complains re: boredom but screams "I don't want friends." I can't even have the cable guy over to replace a cable so she can watch TV in her room... I do have Stepbro with POA & this is GREAT.
My Mom refuses to allow her old housekeeper back or an errand gal once a week or month. I am only one who visits. No one can handle her toxic *shite behaviors. YESSSSSS to: "I feel jealous of friends who don't have hoarders or mentally ill parents." So selfish to live this way.
My Mom struggles to move her body bc she chooses to be sedentary most of the day. Her choice. Not even a walk in her gated community.. Not even for 15 mins. Not for 5 mins. Always picked on my Dad for his running & tennis... He walked up until last couple mos of his life...and was so healthy bc of his passion for exercise, people...music...politics...history....LIFE!
I am praying that my Mom passes peacefully & does not ..keep at this insanity for even.. 5 more yrs... No gratitude for life. She has been a terror for decades..
I could have it so much worse.. God knows what is coming down the pike, but ... I will never live with her. Whatever the circumstances: we do owe it to ourselves/our S.O. + KIDS + G- KIDS to get help for them. I know what I can tolerate. And I will not quit my career or Kids...their future people...for her. My Mom has the $ means to take in help...and make our lives smoother...I will NOT fall for her manipulative antics. I sound heartless...but am not.
***@ Exveemon: get her the Metamucil cookies & Smooth Tea....in copious amounts... PS YOUR life is going to get better, but get some time to YOURSELF.....NOW!
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Yes know what you mean. I was that way too but, learn to turn to God to make my ways better and it has been working. We look to God for guidance and live for him alone. We dont flaunt what we got we need to be humble because God knows what will happen to us all and all he asked us is to be living in his ways and have glory to him alone. Seek him and ask and you will have it....Amen...
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LoopyLoo Sep 2022
That’s a lot of assumptions there…
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If the care taking is too much, you need to look into hiring more help or placing your mother in a care facility. Her needs will continue to increase and can very legitimately become too much for a family member to handle.
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MicheleDL Sep 2022
It's okay.
I read this gentleman's profile. He is the youngest of 3 brothers. They are the they, them you asked about.
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I'm sorry you are envious of other people's lives.
Jealousy on the other hand is a bit more hostile (by definition) but may be correct and a result of feeling unfairly forced into a situation that you don’t agree with and, in actuality, have sole say in the matter, (along with perhaps your father), as the one who does the work and has the responsibility.

I may not have read enough to know the state of you mother's mind but as I read it your family, who are lay people, are directing their expert.  

From your vantage you must tell them with gentle authority that no one person, can manage this without great damage to the caregiver’s health. You wouldn't recommend them to endure this.

Have a pow-wow with everyone there. Before hand make a large calendar, and several slips of paper with their names on them. 

Put down the law and telling them that they must help.

Give them the option of picking groups of three days a weeks to come over and care for your mom. If they are many, point out that they may not have their turn to help for pehaps weeks. Tell them that you will teach each and everyone of them how to give care including enema’s to your mom. 

Make everyone a copy of the calendar (or do it online) and tell them to only speak to each other to swap days and then to tell you, and you will keep the others informed so there is never a question.

This may shut them the h*ll up.

You tell them that if they bail out they loose, all incorrectly imagined rights, (rights that only you graciously considered), to advise the “expert”.

I understand they are suffering her illness too but they cannot, cannot, and as of this family meeting, will not advise without providing help. Back seat driving is not helpful.

My mother was very sharp minded, although very sadly and understandably persuaded by fear, when she chose chemo after being told that with it she’d live 3 months vs 4 months without it. She went through a kind of what-a-fighter’s h*ll that could only be admired by those who weren’t hands-on caregivers. She suffered terribly.

I know I don't have to tell you…extraordinary measures must be taken to improve life when there is hope that the sufferer will survive a disease, otherwise greater loving mercy must be the choice.

Be the expert. Call in an expert to talk to your family if need be.

As a new doctor, I can’t imagine the pressure you're under, your heartbreak and fatigue. You are being squeezed horribly by a many sided vise. Not only are you being torn apart by your mom’s illness and care, your work, as well as watching your wife suffer, you are also being made crazy by your family’s vocalized input.  

Tell your family that heaven knows you don't want to let go of your mom either but if they insist on measures that will prolong your mom's suffering they must help you and your wife.

Suggest to your family to repeat the word Mercy with regard to your mother each night as they wait for sleep. Just that simple two ton word, Mercy.

Ask them how do they see their end days. 

Forgive me if I’ve misunderstood your question.
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RedVanAnnie Sep 2022
I'm not sure who the "they" and "them" are that you referring to as people Exveemon should be talking to. There may not be any other people involved. It sounds like Exv is taking care of her mother at home and the demands of care and time are increasing as her mother declines. That is what happens.
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Can you imagine living her life?
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It is average to feel down about the low points of your caretaking duties. Give yourself extra tender-loving- care during these times. Outreach to a friend or find someone who is willing to stand-in as caregiver from time to time.
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I feel for you, I really do.

I don't believe that not inserting a Peg-tube is euthanasia in any country. They are not meant to prolong EOL, they're generally used on a short time basis as they have issues on their own. But you know that.

Allowing her poor, sick body to keep on going when she must be miserable--that seems far more unkind than all the medical procedures to 'keep her going'.

Do you ever pass on some of this more gritty parts of CG to other family members who have such strong feelings about her care? I fathom that as they do the care that you do, they will become far more compassionate than they are. Do they just dump it all on you??

As long as you willingly do the CG, nobody will stop you.

Would it be possible for you and DW to take a week long break (leave town completely!) and turn the CG over to the sibs who have such strong opinions.

One bowel blowout and I bet they'd be singing a different tune.

I'm so sorry for you. If you're not in the US I have zero advice as far as moving mom to better FT care.
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I went through what your going through a few years back. The worst part is with me I felt so guilty for getting upset about all of the issues. I feel so bad for you and I really do understand what you are going through. I just wish I had some words to help you.
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There are no answers. I'm sorry your going through this dark time. My mom has dementia and needs 24 hour care. Can't afford a facility. And like you, sometimes I just "accept" my life as it is. Then Wham! Now my husband is diagnosed with mild cognitive impairment. Which is first step towards ALZ. Sometimes I'm secretly envious of people around me that seem to have life easier. Or maybe they cope better?
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Lymie61 Sep 2022
Or maybe your life looks easier to them or at least like your dealing with it better than they are. Hang in there it ebbs and flows.
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Hello Exveemon,

I understand. As a married male that cares for my mother, I get it. Most of the people responding to you just don't get it, and most of their responses can irritate, if not anger you. People in America are quick to point you to some government tax payer funded program, instead of trying to understand the moral and deeply personal decisions you are challenged with. The fact is that most Americans get to a point where they are turned over to the government for care - a practice that is only decades old, not centuries. In this current tine, people are just more cold, self-centered, and self-preserving -- especially in the U.S.

Sonetimes hating the situation that you and your wife are in, needs to be said. It needs to be talked about, and not held in.

Hard conversations need to also be had with the entire family - especially if the majority would like to do as much as possible to keep her needs met, then the workload has to be more balanced among the family.

Hired caregivers can provide some relief but they still need to be vetted, background-checked, supervised, and coached. So when you do all of that, you end up feeling like they aren't much help to the situation either.

I have been on the caregiving road with my mother in our home for almost 10 years, so....I GET IT!

There are moments when you hate the situation, you hate that your loved didn't do X, Y, or Z to keep up their own health, you hate that family look to you for every answer, you hate to come home, you hate that your wife is on this journey with you, you hate that friends and family don't do more besides talk, you hate that the medical community isn't much help, you hate the your loved one has this type of quality of life, you hate that caregivers are often unreliable, you hate that you can't just do what you want to do after a long day.... I GET IT!

I have to do a lot to keep myself encouraged, only to encourage others depending on my care. As a man of faith, part of my daily encouragement is praying daily, reminding myself of how Jesus made sure His mother was taken care of by a disciple before He died for our sins on the cross, walking every morning with my wife, reading my bible, eating healthy, talking to a therapist - letting it all out, and attending a support group of other caregivers.

We are few in number -- men who care for their mothers. But know that you are a special and love-filled person that I admire from afar. Please remember to try and get more balance. You may have to talk to a couselor who can help you think about resources and other ideas to lessen the load on you and your wife - ideas you may have not thought about.

I will keep you in prayer. If you need someone to talk to, you can send me a private message.

Tim
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PeggySue2020 Sep 2022
Mary was 46 when Jesus died. Mary also had other children.
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If she’s bedridden she probably won’t be with you too much longer. I’m hardly an expert, but when my parents and husband reached that stage they made their exit pretty quickly after that. Is your mom in hospice care?
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I hear you! I took care of Mom for 10 yrs. She wasn’t always bed ridden, but she needed plenty of help. She came to live near us at the age of 85 because she was almost blind and couldn’t live independently anymore without daily help. So first it was the blindness, then the squamous cell carcinoma that needed constant attention, (too much sun in Florida everyday for 30 yrs), then came the bathroom accidents, then not being able to cook for herself, then the congestive heart failure, then the worst - the inflammatory breast cancer that ultimately took her. The dressing changes, the smell, the pain. But she didn’t want to treat. Finally agreed to go to Hospice care the last 2 weeks of her life. She was 95 yrs old. I was the only sibling still alive to care for her. Everyone else in immediate family had passed. I too wanted to pull my hair out most days. Now, one year later, I see the reason for it all. I did it because there was no one else. She needed me to help her. I was gracious sometimes, and not so gracious at other times. God gave me the strength to continue. I can honestly say I didn’t think it would ever end. But one day it did. I was relieved for her and I was glad I helped her. We are tested in this life. No doubt. You are doing your best. One day, it will be over. You will feel the relief for your mom and then relief and grief for you. It will take a while to get back to things you used to do. But, you will have your life back. And you will be glad you helped her in the end. Blessings for you and your family.
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My 95 yo mother is still mobile - with a walker and an escort - and is still able to feed herself, talk and go to the bathroom with assistance.

Keeping a watch on your mother's bowel movements is important. I have learned to never let my mother go more than 2 days without a bowel movement before giving her Milk of Magnesia before bedtime, followed by a cup of (decaf) coffee for breakfast which always works to get things moving again without the side effects of a laxative.

I understand that we all have to make the best decisions for our elderly LO that we can. However, I feel badly for your poor mother being force fed with a PEG tube on top of being unable to pass the waste and getting constant laxatives and an enema to complete the trip.

When and if my mother ever stops eating, I will not admit her to the hospital and have a PEG tube inserted. No way. But that's my decision for my mother. I will instead, call the hospice that she is associated with and have her switched over from (current) palliative care to hospice care.

Pain-free, comfortable, peaceful.
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Cover999 Sep 2022
I hope that doesn't happen to your mom. Some hospitals like to use, the docs and/or nurses are concerned about your loved one being weak , to try to get the loved one or their carer to agree to the PEG tube.
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I hear you and just want to let you know you are not alone!

I get jealous not only of people having healthy parents but in general having family! I find it really hard for instance to be happy at a friends wedding (not that I’ve been able to attend one lately) when I see all the cousins, uncles, aunties, parents, siblings etc around and realise I have none of it. I get jealous even with friends birthdays when I see they have loving family that are there to wish them well and celebrate when I just have myself. It’s super hard!

And as you said instead, I might be cleaning the floor of urine once again or be dealing with poop and working 24/7.

I too have those moments of is this all there is to my life,..
just recently my friends caught up and even though I know I wouldn’t have been able to go, it hurt to not even be invited and to then see photos of them living it up!

I don’t have any advice to give but just to say you are not alone! Plenty of people on this forum in similar situation. And know what you mean also about just getting things kind of in control for things to take a turn again.

The only thing I can say is as someone else has said (and I try remind myself of this),.. one day they will be gone and then we’ll miss having that parent altogether.
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Cover999 Sep 2022
Love yourself, really not a big deal.
Birthday and Weddings just another day on the calendar just like Holidays.

The positive it's good when the "special" day is over .

You mentioned weddings and other special events, have you wondered if they're all happy to be there or just putting on a show?
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