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According to a dementia specialist, my mom is in the advanced stages of vascular dementia. It is her 80th birthday coming up next month and all she ever talks about is going to the beach for a holiday (her absolute favourate place). It is an 8-hour drive or about a 5-hour process by air (with travel to airport, having to be there an hour before the flight, 2-hour flight and taxi to hotel, etc).


She has had a hip replacement on both hips due to falls in the last two years and needs 24-hour nursing care.


Here is my question; I feel like this may be her last birthday and it's a big one (80th). Do I take her away for a few days to the beach? I know in her head it's an idyllic holiday (but she was last there with my dad who passed away in 2020). It is going to be extremely hard work for me as she's up 3-4 times in the night, needs to be bathed and watched constantly. If I knew she would love this holiday I wouldn't hesitate but I'm worried that being out of routine, the long trip and the stress of getting back to frail care will make her worse.


Any advise please from someone who's tried to take their elderly parent away on holiday. I don't want to regret not doing everything I can for her but I also don't want this to be a disaster.

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No, no, no.

Create a "beach party" for her where she is. Get some sea shells and leis at a craft store, play some Jimmy Buffet music, and get her a cake decorated to look like the beach.
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AlvaDeer Mar 2023
LOVE this.
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My gut answer is no! Make that a resounding NO!!!
Have you taken your mom out for an extended time recently?
Are you able to SAFELY get her in and out of a car?
Have you been able to get her into a public restroom and use a toilet and possibly change her in the bathroom???
Have you gone to a restaurant? Is she able to handle the noise, confusion and been able to have a meal? allow you and others to enjoy their meal?
Have you been able to keep her out for 5, 6, 8 hours without her wanting to "go home"?
And...
Would you take a caregiver with you to help you? Not a family member but a caregiver that knows her, knows how to settle her down if she gets agitated?
Are you prepared to turn around and return home when you are half way there, or once the plane lands would you book the next flight back or rent a car if she wants to go home?
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Beatty Mar 2023
".. book the next flight back or rent a car if she wants to go home?"

Very good point.
The anxious will want 'home'.

My personal experience: Once we took lengths to get to a lovely park. Warm, not hot. Light breeze, not windy. Hardly 5 mins. "Go back inside now".

Outings like that had become no longer suitable. We just didn't know yet.
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I'd say no!

I took my mom on a couple of cruises. They were her fave thing to do.

On the first one, her dementia wasn't so bad but she had mobility problems and used a wheelchair to get around. A friend and a cousin went with us to help. Mom complained of pain, and we took her to the ship's doctor, who didn't help much because mom couldn't say what hurt, maybe she just wanted to complain? It was a major project to get her in and out of the wheelchair, up and down the ramps, etc. She was crabby (maybe because of pain? who knows?), demanding, and accused us of talking to each other more than to her. People were rude. For instance, we're waiting for an elevator on the ship because one of us would push her in and stay with her, and the others would then use the stairs - but people trampled right past that wheelchair and stuffed the elevator, leaving no room for mom. We sometimes waited for 5 or 6 elevators before getting one with room.

The second cruise, we took mom, her full-time 24/7 caregiver, and 3 relatives plus me to help. Bathrooms were a problem, mom was a problem, she'd insist we push her around everywhere for no reason, and had no idea of our difficulty. She couldn't use an electric scooter. She couldn't physically get off the ship to sightsee, and someone had to stay with her at all times. We had to rent a van with special equipment to get her to and from the ship. She still had pain - who knows where?

Mom had a good time --she got her wish to cruise--but we were all exhausted afterward.

It's confusing for them. Their brain illness makes it impossible to know how to act normally. Mom didn't understand why we weren't on time for the shows because she didn't recall having to wait for an elevator. It was unclear how much she recalled of the last cruise afterward, even in the next few days or weeks.

At some point, we must accept that they are not as before - and this should be that time for you.
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No. You shouldn't take her on a beach holiday. In her head going to the beach means a different time in her life when she used to go on holiday there. She will not have that experience now and will be miserable and that usually means the caregiving is harder for whoever has to do it.
Taking her now would be a disaster for her, you, and everyone else you would have to take along as support staff because there's no way one person can handle an elder with advanced dementia along with the taxis, plane, airport, hotel, luggage, 24-hour nursing care, etc... I truly hope you're not considering taking her on your own.
For her 80th maybe do a beach-themed get together. Serve seafood dishes, do beach-themed decorations. A little party.
Don't take her on a long trip to the beach. This is a bad idea.
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XenaJada Mar 2023
Beach themed party. Great idea.
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Is there perhaps a lake nearby that you could take her to? In my state (Iowa) we have some lakes that are holiday places with nice cabins, etc. These have much of the ambiance of the beach you are describing and would be accessible with only an hour or two car ride. I can't imagine taking a person with dementia on a plane these days. Just too risky.
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Don't even consider it. This will be an absolute catastrophe.
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It sounds like way too much stress and work for you.

Would she even remember the trip?

How about getting a nice beach scene to play on her TV (with realistic sounds)? And then she can see the beach whenever she wants!
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Lea013, welcome to the forum. You had mentioned that last time your Mom was at the beach was with your Dad. I would fear that you Mom may try to look for your Dad since that was her last memory of being there. With advanced dementia, your Mom may fear he is missing, was hurt, or had gone out without her.

When my own Mom was in a nursing home with advance dementia, she thought the nursing home was a hotel. After my Dad visited with Mom, later Mom thought Dad had gone on a bus tour and left her behind. There was no way to convince her otherwise, due to the dementia.

A friend of mine, who's wife had advanced Alzheimer's, took a trip to the beach, They took along her caregiver. It was exhausting as his wife mind was that of a child, and it took both of them to keep watch on her, so she wouldn't just dart away. After they returned the Agency who had that caregiver was trying to bill him for 24 hours of care for each day they were away, instead of the normal 8 hours per day. He wound up paying the extra cost.

Those with upper stages of dementia need routine. When my Dad moved into Memory Care, the only time he left the building was to a doctor's appointment. We just didn't want to rock the boat by taking him out to visit or weekend trips.
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My answer is definitely NO.

When my father was 80 he was in good shape and lived on his own. He heard I wanted to go to Disney World and wanted to come along. I thought it would be a good idea as I would have someone to split the cost of a hotel room and he'd get to spend quality time with his grandkids. Worst-decision-ever! For a man who could run through a casino, he could barely get through the airport. I was a nervous wreck at the park trying to keep an eye on two excited pre teens and an 80 year old man lagging behind. Someone later suggested I should have gotten him a wheelchair. I asked them what type of vacation for me would it have been if I was pushing someone around in a wheelchair all day. Funny how everyone forgets it is your vacation too. Often we would leave him to sit and people watch while we ran off to hit a ride or two. When I vacation I want to cover a lot of ground but I couldn't because I felt like I had to keep checking on him. Day 2 he stayed at the hotel while we went to the park. I felt like my once in a lifetime vacation for my kids was a disappointment because we couldn't do all the things we wanted to do. Remember this was a man who still lived on his own and was pretty much self sufficient.

For his 93rd birthday when he was in AL I picked up McDonald's and ate with him in his room. He couldn't handle anything more than that.
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One word. NO!

These things never go as well as the fantasy in our minds.

You have a good heart for wanting to do this but trust the advice from all- it will not go well.
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