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My dad's caregiver who also lives at his house (she's not 24/7 however) wants to have friends or her partner over whenever she likes.


The only issue I have is that he has not yet had the vaccine (nor has she) and he is a high-risk population.


I don't live in the state so it wasn't until the other caregiver made me aware of this that I sent an email to let her know she can't have guests over.


Now she is very upset and sending me long messages in protest.


Do you think it's unreasonable to ask her to not have guests until he is vaccinated and his doctor gives clearance?

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I have a live in housekeeper. She is allowed to have visitors in her living area during her off hours and on days off. She works an eight hours per day, 5 days a week. She is not allowed to have guests in the family parts of our home or during times we have multiple guests for social occasions. During the time of Covid lockdown she had to follow the Covid restrictions and did not visitors during lockdown. Our lockdown has been over for several weeks and we live in an area low Covid rates and high Covid vaccination coverage.

Our housekeeper has a legal contract that meets federal wage and hour laws and applicable state laws. It illegal to give room and board without appropriate pay. It is considered slavery to not provide pay. She has paid vacation, holidays off, health insurance and other employer paid benefits. She has taxes and Social Security withheld and we pay the workers comp, employer portion of social security, and unemployment insurance.

Our housekeeper is a good employee and we trust her completely. Treating employees well results in good employees and a pleasant home. We have a monthly meeting discuss any issues and to set the schedule if either of us has appointments that need to be accommodated. The
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Isthisrealyreal Feb 27, 2021
Braggart! 😁 just kidding, kinda, just jealous.
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I feel you made the right decision. The caregiver is the one who is unreasonable and she should know better putting your dad at risk.
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I think once he is vaccinated - if she too can get vaccinated - it may be good for him to have more social stimulation. The partner would have to have been vaccinated too and still practice social distancing. However, I don't like that she is pressuring you. That's maybe a red flag.
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Are you kidding? Get another caregiver. First, it is your house. Second, WITH COVID??? Third, she is not 24/7. Fourth, why? Wouldn’t it be distracting from her job???
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Isthisrealyreal Feb 28, 2021
But she is charged rent to live there. It sounds like the poster wants 24/7 control without paying for it.
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I would say that having company over is a resounding NO.
Even if or when the caregiver is vaccinated she should not have guests over. This is not her home. This is her place of work and your dad’s home.

You are focused on her vaccinated status but what about her guests? What about the guests family? While it may be more difficult to get COVID-19 after doing vaccinated there is the possibility to still get one of the newer strains and you can still transmit the virus
When she is not working she can go visit her partner, her friends.
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NO! Sounds like you need to find another caretaker. It would concern me that she thinks its appropriate. She is getting paid to do a job!
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?!?!?!?

I expect it's different - it must be different! - where your dad lives, but here it's the law: no mixing of households. Not 'til... whenever it is. I've got so confused by the timetable for "lockdown easing" that I'm just bumbling on and assuming I will never be allowed to meet anyone socially ever again :(

But your father is (presumably) in an older age group and shielding, neither he nor the caregiver has been vaccinated, and it is OUT OF THE QUESTION that anybody crosses their threshold without a valid reason for being there. Party party party does not constitute even one valid reason.

What's her beef? I'm genuinely curious, I'd love to know what she thinks is unfair about this.
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Isthisrealyreal Feb 27, 2021
Nothing was said about partying. This is a woman that has a rental agreement and a caregiver contract, two different contracts.

We are allowed to have guests in our home, Governor is asking for small gatherings and common sense.

You can not legally do what this family is doing, so they need to make serious changes or face big problems when this caregiver tenant goes to the authorities and complains about not being paid or being unjustly evicted.

This is a poster child for why we deal with employees per the law of the land. Really the employee has all the power because of the way things have been handled in this situation.
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? Isthisreallyreal - All I've seen the OP post is that she has asked the caregiver not to have guests. What can possibly be illegal about that? What else is the family doing?
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Isthisrealyreal Feb 27, 2021
She is working her and charging her rent. However, they are two separate contracts, yet they are taking hours of work in lieu of a payment. That is illegal.

You can not dictate what an employee does on their own time.

You can not rent someone a home and dictate how they utilize the space that they pay for, after the fact. Obviously bringing a business into a residential space would be pushing the limits of zoning and can be stopped. She wants to tell a renter that she can not have anyone over to visit, including her partner.
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I don’t think this is unreasonable at all. In fact I don’t think she should have visitors at all. She is working and if it was in another setting like a nursing home she would not be allowed to have visitors. Just because she is in a private setting does not mean you get to do what you want. Also you do not know the people she is having in and that is not safe for your dad. Just my opinion
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gladimhere Feb 28, 2021
She is not working 24/7/365 she lives there too.

Would you even think about renting a place where the landlord told you that outside visitors are not allowed? Or you are not permitted to leave the room?
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Absolutely not unreasonable.
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