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Lylwing: here is a bad attempt at humor so you can lighten up a bit in a serious situation: IF you don't learn how to take care of yourself right away, you are going to the nutsing home.
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Lylwing, Make separate appointments for a counselor or therapist for yourself. Can you 'call forward' the landline to message center on a small number of rings? Your situation is precarious at best. It will be like living with the enemy. Get a witness on a regular basis. Social workers, (to whom you now find you must report to and explain your actions!) are fallible people too that can get carried away with the authority and power of their job.
Do take her out more, take her to the senior center. Let her complain and do not defend yourself. As was suggested, become transparent, get yourself an advocate/witness to be around the two of you "two year olds". So sorry your doctor said that. Keep going back, however, you can get a second opinion from a geriatric psychiatrist for your mom. Don't allow criticism to drastically change the way you have done things right for your mom, unless it is warranted.
Call your phone company for features and ideas of how to limit incoming calls through the message center, call screen, etc.
OR, JUST REMOVE THE RINGER ON THE LANDLINE, because it is very important to allow a senior to call out. She can receive calls on the cell phone.
Take care of yourself.
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Landlines are important to elders in case there is an emergency and the elder dials 911 but is unable to speak due to panic, stroke, etc. Dispatch will automatically see on their screen the elder's address and send out EMT's to check the situation.

With a cellphone all the dispatch gets is the closest cell tower, which could be miles away, unless the cellphone has an option for direct location.

With my cellphone, over the past year I have been getting advertisement calls, so those robo calls have drifted into the cellphone world.
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thank you. I guess I will keep the appointment. I don't need them more up my butt than they are. I'm just so angry. Not so much at my mom but at the fact that "who takes care of the caretaker".
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I would be careful about canceling appointments with social workers, doctors or anyone involved in her care. It could be taken as a bad sign and I would try to avoid anything like that. I would keep things as transparent as possible.

I would also try to keep reading as much about dementia as possible. The brain changes and the patient cannot be held to the same standard that they were held to previously. Even if the patient was rude, a liar and demanding for 40 years, when they get dementia, they have an excuse. Dwelling on old behavior throughout their life is not productive. I think I might see a counselor about dealing with it and accepting what has happened. You may not get your mom to ever behave in the way you think is proper. She will not be capable. Having high expectations can be very disappointing. Plus, she her dementia will progress.

I would also let go of expectations of her being polite or saying the right thing. With dementia, that's rarely what you do. You may say or do very bizarre things. It's expected and not odd by those who know dementia. You may explain that to others who don't know this. They will just have to adjust and accept it as well.

I wish you both all the best.
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I agree. But the cell she has is set up so she can call my sisters etc. And they call her on the cell...they don't call the landline. Taking the landline protects us both. I cant go into detail right now but it does. She gives too much info to strangers. I haven't taken it and don't know if I will. I'm watching how she acts with it.
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Good grief, never ever take away a landline from an elder and expect them to remember how to use a cellphone. What was that careworker thinking???

As an elder's memory fades, they still remember how to use a landline from when they were growing up. Cellphone buttons are very small and difficult on poor eyesight. Also clarity of sound, again difficult on an elder with limited hearing.
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I might add that I believe my mother is a narcissist and has been a liar as long as I can remember. She's got it down to a science. Very convincing.
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The caseworker did say as long as she had a phone the cell phone would be fine but now after the argument about the phone I want to wait to take it. She is paranoid that the reason I don't want her to answer it is that she might find out something I've done. I tried to explain it over and over. I know she just wants someone to talk to.... anyone even if it's a telemarketer but she's mean on the phone. She's always mean. A friend of my dads called, she answered and said "he's expired' and hung up. She has no friends. I've tried to talk her into going to the senior citizens place in town but she refuses. Even the caseworker asked her about it.

I do take her to get her hair done. She won't bath unless I push it and she tries hard to get out of it. but I just get things ready and tell her okay get in and she will.

I have to bring her her food and meds even though she's perfectly able to get up and get things herself. She sits in a chair and watches tv all day. this is not new. She has been like this for years. My dad had to cater to her. If you don't jump when she snaps she's pissed. Well, now I tell her it can wait, or it's not going to hurt the truck to be out of the garage I'll put it in later. She knows now she can't threaten me if I don't jump when she says. So that part is nice but she still nags constantly.

The thing about going outside is a laugh. She told them I won't let her go out yet I try all the time to get her to come out with me. She'll stand at the door and watch what's going on .... so she has something to complain about but rarely comes out.

My main thing that I would like to know is am I okay. If the caseworker believes her what can happen. I am very protective of my mom. She makes me mad as heck but I still am very very protective of her.

I'm thinking about cancelling the next doctor appointment because he was such a jerk. I've been going to her appointments with her for years so he knows me and knows I take care of her. Even way before she needed it.
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The cell phone would be better as she probably will not remember how to work it. Make sure she does go outside everyday.... Short visits... Put a black mat on the inside of the doors. Usually they are afraid to step on it. Put a high key lock on the doors so you can lock them and sleep at night. How about Ativan at or morning and night? Is she bathing? Do you take her to get her hair done?
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thank you
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I want to expand on what Maggie was talking about with dementia. There's tons of great info on this about dealing with dementia and you should do some reading, but here's some basic stuff I've learned from dealing with my very stubborn Dad who has dementia.

You just can't argue, you won't win. The ability to reason through the simplest things is no longer there.

Don't correct them all the time. It just reminds them that something is wrong, and they can become confused and angry.

Don't play 20 questions. "Don't you remember this or that?" They don't and won't. Don't bother with it.

Don't get mad. This is the hardest for everyone dealing with dementia. You have to remember it's not their fault. It's even harder when the relationship has always been bad.

Fib, lie, use deception, divert attention, trickery what ever you can do to induce a loved one to do what's needed for their welfare and YOURS.


Finally, it only gets worse. Be prepared, lay track ahead of time for the next crisis and take care of yourself. Don't let guilt or others inaction and dumping all the responsibility on you kill you. Stand up for yourself. If putting Mom in care is the only way you will survive, then that's what you do
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I'm sure I did handle it wrong. I have no clue about this sort of thing. It's new to me. I'm stressed out. I don't want her answering the phone because one she has cancelled not only her doctor appointment but an appointment for an eye exam that I had to reschedule. Two because she has ordered things and paid for it with her visa. A drink thing that was a monthly delivery and payment of $89

The caseworker told me I could take the landline from her as long as I let her keep her cell phone. I didn't want to do that but I might have too.

Right now she's pouting and won't eat.

I feel like a failure even though I know I'm taking good care of her. She has no one else. My sisters haven't even asked me if I needed any help.. My oldest sister called one time to make sure she knew that she wants her share of the sale of the house! I said umm she's not dead yet. The other sister calls every other day to ask her how she is doing but hasn't offered to visit or have mom go to visit her.

As I said, I'm new to this. I guess I needed to talk to anyone who could offer support. I don't know all the in's and out's of dementia. I had hoped her doctor would help me but he was horrible to me.

I guess I'll just get back to reading about it. I just really needed someone to talk to
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First, the doctor is a mandated reporter. That's why he called Adult Protective Services. Next, APS has seen and heard it all. Your mom has been diagnosed with dementia. I presume APS knows that.

Now I'd like to make a few observations from your post.

You know she has dementia yet you expect her to remember not to answer a ringing phone. Much of what dementia'd seniors do is from habit. Pretty predictable that she would answer the phone, don't you think? She probably doesn't even know why you're angry about it. And why DON'T you want her to answer it, by the way? If you're expecting her to look at the caller ID, which it sounds as if you do, I think it's likely you're expecting too much.

I use that as an example. Taking care of dementia'd loved ones is more about manipulation than you think. Example...

When she wanted to go to the bank for a thousand dollars? Instead of no, tell her you'll take her for sure tomorrow. When tomorrow comes,she may or may not remember. If she remembers, take her but suggest she start with $50. You'll take her for more when she needs it. Then take her out to lunch.

Hope some of this makes sense. I know APS being involved is spooky, but, believe me, you and mom aren't their first rodeo.
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My mother has always been a control freak and one to hold things over your head. My USED car is in both of our names. She wanted to buy a brand new car and I told her that a used one would be better. I told her she didn't need the payments of a new car. She has my dads Trail Blazer but it's a gas hog so we wanted to get something better on gas. She told me she was taking it away from me. I said fine but who's going to run your errands. She is 87 and can't drive. So after the doctor signed the papers that she is unable to make sound decisions and pulled that on me again I told her that she doesn't get to do any of that anymore. To put it nicely my mother is evil and has been all my life. She constantly sits and plots. I can tell when she is and it's nerve racking.

I want to take care of her. I do want to be here. I feel responsible for her and I do take d*mn good care of her. But she is the type that isn't happy unless she is causing drama.
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The attorney who drew up the papers told me I don't need to have a guardian appointed as it states in the DPOA that I am.
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The doctor is the one who scared her with the nursing home. I just reminded her what he said. She does have to have 24/7 which is why I'm here. There is no one to protect me from her lies.
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I don't think I could handle the stress and anxiety of dealing with it. I would see an attorney and ask about filing with the court to have a guardian appointed to her. I would NOT do it. In many states, the court can consider willing family members or they can appoint someone else. The court will determine if she needs one based on her mental competence. They may need testimony from you and her doctor. If they appoint her a guardian, they can make arrangements to keep her safe and care for her needs.
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Curious what type of doctor had diagnosed your Mother as having dementia? What kind of testing was done?

Regarding nursing homes, please do not make a nursing home a "punishment", you are scaring your mother.... with dementia some day she might have to have 24 hour care which you might not be able to do, and you wouldn't be able to get her to even visit one.
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