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My wife has not been professionally diagnosed with dementia. However, changes have been obvious to family members and myself. She can no longer do simple math, write a check or plan meals. She follows current events but becomes very confused if the issues are complicated. I am not savvy enough to discern if these changes are early indicators of dementia or just part of growing old.


My concern is this: if I discuss these changes with her, will it upset her and make matters worse, or is it better for her to be aware that she is changing?

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Check she hasn't a UTI as the first step. When my aunt has one she talks gibberish. When it has cleared up she seems ok.

That way you can get her to a health provider who may see signs of something else.
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Honestly, I see no purpose in discussing with her, she most likely won't absorb what you are saying anyway and she cannot make any changes, her brain is broken.

With my step-mother we just went with the flow, paying attention and adjusting as needed, there is no getting better with this disease.

Sending support your way.
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Just go along with where she is at. Mom's first symptoms of Alzheimers were her inability to write a check and her inability to plan a meals.

I see no upside in discussing things with her. It will most likely upset her. As a family we just went with the flow. Accept her for where she is at.

Mom was able to assist with meal making for years even though she could not meal plan or cook a burger. She could peel potatoes for years if someone pulled out the potatoes and gave her a peeler and if all of the sandwich ingredients were put on the counter still make sandwiches.
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I would ask this question of her doctor. Find a way to communicate with him/her privately the changes, the worries, and the doctor can do some simple testing next physical.

You know your wife a great deal better than we do. When it IS really some early dementia is the point that you will see, usually, a good deal of pushback on any suggestion there are changes.

SLUMS and MOCA tests, with their easy questions, are on youtube, if you wish to play a few word games with your wife that may give you some indications. Or asking her for instance to draw a clock with a set time, say 12:30. You can do some minimal things.

It's important now to find out if you are missing, because of no MD involvement, some simple explanations such as Urinary Tract Infection. So I would address this with wife's doctor if you feel she isn't open to discussing it with you.

People differ. When my brother began his journey into Lewy's Dementia he WANTED to talk, see MD, learn. He knew that early stages was when he could plan for his own protection and my help. He knew and saw subtle changes in driving, in balance, in strange dreams that were waking dreams in his words (he was having hallucinations, especially at night). So people definitely differ in their receptivity to what they are already feeling in subtle changes. Many of us run to our doctors saying "I left the gas on the stove! I can't ever find my keys! I put things in safe places and can't remember then where the safe place is" and doctors will work a bit with them and reassure them they are having normal aging changes. But as I said, people DIFFER, and you know wife better than we do. As does her Doc.
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Not everyone who grows old gets symptoms like these. I know a 95-year-old who plays golf, a number of 80-year-olds who square dance and have no trouble remembering the moves, and large numbers of 80- and 90-year olds who work out with weights and go to the gym regularly. We live in an over-55 community.

Please talk with her doctor because maybe Aricept or Memantine would help her. As for her awareness, my husband was very aware of his own cognitive decline. He's an analytic type who was able to figure it out and also decide how he wishes to be cared for as his disease progressed. Many try to conceal it. It's all individual.
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Definitely speak with her. She should be evaluated by a neurologist, not just her regular doctor. There are pills she can take to slow it down. As it progresses she will have more difficulty with ordinary tasks she easily did. She’s probably at a stage where she can still remember really important things, like “I have dementia!” If you haven’t already had to stop her from driving she will need to know and understand that she shouldn’t drive and agree to give it up.
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I’m pretty sure that she knows and if she wants to address it it’s up to her. For over 10 years we ignored the “elephant in the room” and maintained a pretty good life.
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My mom hated the word Alzheimers but she accepted the term memory issues or memory loss. I could have simple discussions with her as long as she allowed it
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It depends on your LO. I was always honest with my father and mother regarding their health. If they don't accept my explanation, I would try different ways of describing it. My mother always had something going on. Although my father was healthier, once he was diagnosed with dementia, he decided to fight it. He spent 16 years overcoming it daily.
So it does depend on your loved one. Honesty is always the best policy.
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Does your wife make statements such as, What is wrong with me? Why can't I figure this out? If she is aware of becoming forgetful, then I would bring it up to her gently. If your wife is in denial about her memory, ask her if she needs help. She may confess if she sees you want to help her.
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It depends on your LO. I was always honest with my father and mother regarding their health. If they don't accept my explanation, I would try different ways of describing it. My mother always had something going on. Although my father was healthier, once he was diagnosed with dementia, he decided to fight it. He spent 16 years overcoming it daily.
So it does depend on your loved one. Honesty is always the best policy.
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As others have said, have her checked for UTI and also privately discuss your concerns with her doctor. I don't see the point in discussing your concerns with your wife. If she is really slipping into Alzheimers, discussing it with her will do no good and may upset her.
You're probably used to discussing everything with your wife, as a good partner should. But this is different. Imagine if the tables were turned; how would you feel if she asked you the same questions. Defensive? Scared? Angry? Confused? What would be the point of that?
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If symptoms of dementia and cognitive decline are obvious and affect how your wife functions, be sure she is safe in her daily life. If meals and math and check writing can be handled by others, your sife does ot need to do them. Step in wherever necessary to help your wife manage tasks of daily living and try to minimize situations that cause confusion and agitation. Telling her she is slipping may upset her and make her angry. As others have said it may depend upon whether your wife is someone who would want to know about and deal with her own decline or whether she would be happier to have difficulties and roadblocks managed for her.
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As you state, you don't know what this indicates.
It would be best for her to see a neurologist and get a real diagnosis, so that you know how to manage it moving forward. It could be any of a number of things, and having a clearer understanding would be helpful.

As for discussing it with her, I would approach it as you have any other serious discussions over the course of your life together. You know her, you have a special bond. You can gently question her or point out when she has a moment of confusion, and ask her how she sees it.
Depending on her current state of mind, if she is able to understand, she may wish to be knowledgeable about her condition, and involved in the decisions for her ongoing treatment and care.
Generally, with dementia, it is best not to argue with the person's inaccurate reality, as it only confuses them more, or could be very upsetting. For instance, arguing that she's wrong when she doesn't understand is pointless and a futile argument.
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get her medically checked out and in the meantime - this sounds trivial but ensure her water intake is good - my father showed serious signs of decline and it was down to dehydration. Not hydrated his full mental faculties have returned. Sometimes its the tablets - we had to take my father off one pain killing tablet. what the doctors/hospital doesnt tell you is they normally all break down to morphine which again accelerates symptoms and decline. Do your own reserach because our doctors got it all wrong - unless they were exercising age discrimination
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First step is to see her doctor begin testing. There are conditions that can mimic dementia. And at 89 there are some things that may be considered "normal"
You can ask her if she has noticed that she is having problems recently. She may admit it she may not.
Be supportive, do not argue or dismiss her concerns.
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In the early parts of my husband's disease (Alzheimer’s), I have been open about discussing symptoms and progression with him. He has asked me to do this and I’m honoring his wish. I know that won’t be possible in a few years, but early on it’s been easier to get him in for tests if he knows the reason.
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See a neurologist specializing in neurocognitive disorders, preferably at an academic medical center. She or he (or their assistants) will test your wife's cognitive abilities, as well as test for UTIs or other conditions that could be causing this. Then the neurologist can tell you wife the results. Then you're not the "bad guy". There might also be some medication that the neurologist can prescribe to slow (but not stop) the progression of her dementia, and you and your wife can decide if she should take it. Of course, she deserves to know the truth. Cognitive decline (if that's really going on here) is no reason to lie to someone and treat her or him like a small child. Knowing the truth (for both of you) also prepares you for how you'll pay for her long-term care should you need it. You should also see an estate planning/elder law attorney. She or he can find legal ways for you to preserve assets in *your* name only from Medicaid spending them on her long-term care should she require it in the future. You can (and should) prepay funeral expenses for both of you if you've not already done so. Doing doesn't count as "hiding" asserts from Medicaid. States (since Medicaid is a federal program administered by states) certainly prefer that they don't have to pay for an "indigent" death.
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If she has difficulty/ irritated getting her messages across, she knows she's declining. She's fighting to retain her memory,let it go. Yes,a sideline conference with her Dr is going to determine her cognitive stage. The only thing that can be done is to make sure she's safe at home! Accident proof the place for trips and falls,avoid any stairs. She's starting to be forgetful is a sign of declining, just work around it. I don't want you to worry but is everything in order if something should happen to you? I'm sure you've thought about it and worry about it now that you're seeing a change in her. I only ask because after my father passed away, I had no clue to what the financial accounts/ situations were. A few years later, my mother had no idea either. I found all these papers in the drawers and sort,sort,sort...if only someone told me while they were able to!!! Almost missed the homeowners insurance payment because mom was in decline. I'm hoping that both of you stay safe and happy!
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