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Dad and I have always had a wonderful relationship. We have gone from many calls a day and seeing each other most everyday. After he began accusing me of stealing things etc., it was advised that I step back which sounded reasonable at the time!
That has morphed into NO CONTACT.
My adult children have been and are wonderful they have been close all their lives. My kids keep in contact daily as two are not in same city the one that is visits regularly. Last time she visited him he told her I have ruined his life forever! She asked him not to speak badly of me to her because I am her mother! Is it a possibility that I will never see him again?
I am stuck as to where to go from here. I don’t want to agitate him apparently the sight or thought of me really agitated him! I am trying to come to terms that this is not the REAL him...still?
He lives with his second wife. I have arranged and pay for his daily caregiver so I know his needs are met. I imagine over night care to help the wife will be forth coming.
Really, I just want the best for him but having a tough time adjusting to this NO CONTACT

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You know, I have to say that dementia/ALZ is probably THE worst condition a person could ever be afflicted with, for the sufferer, of course, but for the FAMILY even more so. Your father has put in his mind that you are The Bad Guy and you won't be able to chop that thought out of there with a chisel. That's the nature of dementia and I witness it all the time with my 93 y/o mother. She's had bouts of hatred towards me but they've been short lived to date. If the time comes that she wants me out of her life permanently, I will bow out gracefully.......because truthfully, I'm sick and tired of ALL of it. But of course I would feel sad......or, saddER than I already feel for the loss that has occurred in everyone's lives to date thanks to this foul affliction.

With dementia, their behavior tends to change from day to day. Your father may wake up tomorrow and forget he doesn't want to see you...........so don't give up and say you'll NEVER see him again, you know? Things COULD easily change. Try calling him on the phone to apologize for whatever you've done to upset your dad. Who knows........it may work!

Wishing you the best of luck coping with such a tough situation.
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My situation was similar. Excellent answers here, but in my case Mother forgot her recent arguments but not the hatred for me. This was partially her real personality. I was also paying some of her bills myself as well as doing her banking for her. She would call an enabling (flying monkey) niece, who never visited her. Mother would get fired up about me stealing from her and my bad treatment of her after these calls.
At one AL this niece called the facility about me, so they interviewed mother. The result was that they had to call APS about my reported abuse of her. I guess that made me a suspect. After that I refused to ever be alone with her or even close her door while there. It was hard on my family to go with me and hear the nastiness, but they understood and we saw no other option. Of course I still was called at all hours for every little need or to hear about the staff abusing her and stealing. The facility warned me before calling APS, I think because they did not want to kill the golden goose.
Looking back, I should have limited contact with her much more than I did. I should have worked on resolving the guilt instead of trying to do so much for her. One of the last things my mother said to me was that she never wanted me, but she thought my father did so she kept me. I miss my father, MIL and FIL very much. I do not miss my mother at all.
It does not really matter the reason for the verbal abuse, other than to help you feel a little better. The physical toll on you can be very real. Sadly I also allowed it to also affect my wonderful wife. Take care of yourself and your immediate family first.
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Maryjann Jul 2020
I'm so sorry. I worry sometimes that if I get dementia that I will be mean to those I love so dearly. I pray not. I am sorry you had to go through that.
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So many reasons why your dad has become like this. Some can be treated. As others suggested, a med review might be in order. Another check could be for UTI. UTIs do strange things to elders, esp those with dementia.

If these checks can't be done (wife won't do it and/or you can't take him - even a home UTI test could be tried) or they are negative, then most likely it is the dementia talking. All too often those closest are the ones who get the brunt of the negativity/blame. When we took mom's car away, YB did the talking and taking of the keys, but I was the one to get the nasty call day 1 about taking the key and day 2 about why it won't work (I knew she had another key and asked YB to disable the car.) So, try not to take it personally.

I would not give up though. Many times this a a "phase" they go through. Periodically join one of your kids during their visit. If he clearly is upset/agitated with you there, step outside and let the grandkid(s) finish their visit. At some point he may get beyond this fixation and accept you again. Meanwhile, you have your good memories of him - relish those! You can also continue to send cards, notes and perhaps some small gifts. If these also upset him, the wife should let you know (or your kids, if they hear about it) and you could stop those. Phone calls could be tried, but wife may not allow him to talk with you or he may not want to.

You can always hold out hope that "this too shall pass" and your visits will be welcomed once again!
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elaineSC Jul 2020
Good response.
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In addition to all the wise advice here in this forum, I would recommend a med review just to make sure he isn't taking something that can cause paranoia. My stepmother took Ambien for about 6 years to help her sleep after my father died. She gradually underwent a personality change that concerned everyone. No one could figure it out -- she was taken from specialist to specialist (including a neurologist) until her DIL asked for a med review. It was the Ambien. She stopped taking it and was back to being herself again! So, med review is just a good thing to cross off your list. Good luck!!!
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Keep trying to communicate. Whatever you do (contrary to some advice on this forum) never blame others, Don’t blame your Dad (aging is tough), don’t blame his wife (caretaking is tough) and don’t blame anyone else, his aging brain or God. Do your very best navigating these strange circumstances. You have always loved your Dad. Keep loving him. Maybe this is a phase that will pass.

Am I suggesting you do this all for your Dad when he isn’t even being nice? No, do this all for yourself. Don’t let blame, anger and hate hijack your life.

As for his wife, be extremely grateful she is there - if he is having these problems with you, certainly her job is very hard. When your Dad rejects you, offer her support — she is navigating an unthinkable crisis.

Animals often isolate themselves at the end of their life. Maybe that is instinct. When one close relative was dying of cancer, all visits from all people were prohibited. That relative did not want people to see him in his end stages. He did not want to be remembered that way. He did not want to say goodbye. At the time I felt hurt, but adapted to respect and understand his choice.
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If you have so much money that your own health care is insured for your own lifetime, then the charitable output for a man who has chosen to have no communication with you is laudable. I myself would not do as much, I can tell you. Your father may have sunk deep into dementia. If so, given he has taken an extreme dislike to you, he will be more comfortable without you. And I cannot imagine trying to continue to get in touch with him would bring either of you anything but heartbreak.
I would step back after a note telling him I love him, and have always loved him, and will continue to hope for the best for him, that if he ever wishes to see me I am available. I would address this to the husband and the wife. Then I would back away and that includes monitarily.
I certainly could not guess at what got "into" my father. But I am not certain I would honestly care. It is wonderful that he has not cut off his grandchildren, but who knows whether the future will see him do that or not. Dementia can hit so hard that quite honestly the person is GONE, and there is but a shell left, who is not your Dad.
So sorry. There has to be a lot of grief in this, because honestly it is a DEATH before he dies. I think that when these whims hit there is honestly not much of a way to deal with them.
Has his wife spoken to you? Does she have any clue as to what is happening with him? Or does it seem she might be a part of all this?
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Daisy2766 Jul 2020
Thank u♥️
validation really helps
your reply has really helped a situation that cuts beyond words .
Totally a loss b4 the loss ! I agree in that it is best to back off. I have sent him cards letters all thanking him loving him as he has been a wonderful father but I must remind myself that this is not the man I know !
Strange times however silver lining is the support and luv from my husband and children .
My three kids have a very close relationship which we nurtured through their childhood . Now it has helped us all they all three call and visit when distance outside visits allow .
Thank u again
I have to say I have got my life back never realized how much time I have spent running back and fourth . I miss him
but ... now is my time to embrace my life !
Gd bless u for taking the time to reply
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Before you break it off completely, show up at his door with open arms And see what happens....he might not recognize you as that person he hates. My H thinks 3 people live in our home, but it’s just me and him. If I leave and come back of change clothes he asks me where is that other pain in the @ss girl? Lol
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It's the disease talking. My mom is the same. She doesn't want my sister and I around any longer so we hired a caregiver who she doesn't like. Nothing makes them happy and if it does, in 5 minutes they are miserable.
Cherish your memories. Imo, this is NOT your Dad. He's gone. Stay strong.
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I'm sorry for this in your life.

Dad is not the dad you grew up with. Sometimes we have to mourn the loss of a person long before they actually die.

My mom is chronically unhappy with me--blames me for the estrangement of our OB (who died 8 years ago) blames me for all the things that 'can't happen' because I won't organize it.

It's twisted thinking. She didn't want a 90th birthday party. Was forceful about it and told me in no uncertain terms not to plan one. (Truth: YOU BETTER DO SOMETHING!!) But I took her at her word and passed this on to YB. He didn't do anything until the week before the day and was amazed that I'd held my ground and not only had not planned anything, I was probably not even going to go if someone planned something.

So, almost last minute YB and YS got something thrown together and in the end she was happy with it.

She never calls me, never returns calls if I call her, if I go to visit I come home with a raging headache. I don't NEED this in my life. This behavior pre-dates any dementia she may be experiencing.

I have already mourned the loss of any relationship we once had. When she does die, I doubt I'll feel much.

Dementia is a horrible thing. If it causes the LO to be angry and mean, esp. Some people are blessed with becoming sweeter and nicer.

I would seek to distance myself, for self preservation, if this relationship is causing you pain. You can't make dad understand--his brain is broken. Try to remember the good times and let those be your solace in this.

I am truly sorry for your situation. It's painful--we lose LO's before we actually lose them.
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His mind is very mixed right now, for what ever reason. You know you have not done anything wrong and the financial care you are giving him is being given out of love for the man he has always been and meant to you. He is still the same man with a damaged brain. If a person had a brain injury due to an accident, things like this would not be a surprise. But with dementia, as this sounds to be, one can not explain a reason it seems for this to be happening.

Will he have different thoughts of you in time to come, maybe. My mother could be looking right at me and did not know I was her daughter. No matter what I and others told her. When I went out to take the garbage out, neighbors would ask, "How is mother doing today." And I would respond, "All depends who she thinks I am when I get back in."

With Alzheimers, you never know what to expect. My girlfriend's father was a very kind loving father but yet one day, when in a memory care home, he became so angry with her, he began hitting her all over and ended up knocking her down.

Now 12 years since my mother passed, my husband has alzhemers and when he gets a crazy thought in his mind it could last year's. Based on no facts. Anger about his brother in law, he refers to it often. This false thought his mind holds onto, but he can not remember if he ate an hour ago. I have informed all family members of this so that there is not a rif, with them believing what he says, about this or anything else.

So continue the love for the father you remember before his mind took a change. That man is still in there. Try not to be hurt.
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