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For past several years mom has had obsession with sweepstakes, to point she was sending almost all pension to these organizations. Once I became aware I was able to curve the financial giveaway, but still heavy obsession with winning remained, and what little money mom was able to send she continued to do.


Mom has since been moved to a board/care facility, and I’m handling her mail. I have not forwarded any of the sweepstake mail to her and she’s going nuts demanding this mail. She convinced her big pay day is right around the corner. She’s been caught up in scams asking for her bank information, and mailings saying chances are better if contributes to certain charities.


There has been nothing I have been able to say to convince her to let this go. Mom has dementia and is very stubborn. I need advice how to get through this with her.

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The problem here isn't the junk coming in the mail, it is dealing with mom's obsession (regarding others suggesting diverting her mail, getting her off the lists, etc.) OP has already taken over finances and mail.

IF your mother has no way to mail them out (and hopefully no phone to make/take calls), I would give them to her. Let her fill them out and either give them to you to mail into the circular file OR as someone else suggested, have a special box for outgoing mail (which obviously won't be going anywhere!) You CAN actually buy phony checks (made for kids) - you could give her those with the sweepstakes junk mail, to keep her happy and occupied! Just be sure the care-givers are on board and can keep up the charade.

If that isn't a viable option, the best you can do is tune it out. Change the subject if possible. Tell her you'll bring them in next time, or that none came in the mail...

Once fixated on something, it is hard to get around it. It may take a while before she loses that (mom harped at my YB for 9 months about going back to her condo, then fixated on her previous home AND her mother!) Thankfully she was never one to do those sweepstakes or gambling. The few donations she made in the past? They have FOLLOWED her to my PO box (when I took over, I had her mail/bills forwarded to my box.) I get so much crap in the mail in her name! The condo was unoccupied for quite some time and the junk phone calls/messages!!! Once you are on ONE mailing/calling list, you are on ALL mailing/calling lists and they will follow you to hell!! She's been in MC for over 2.5 years, no mail, no phone and I took over finances well before that, so they get nothing, yet they still continue to send this crap. I love the ones saying her car warranty is expiring and she needs to contact them to buy extended - we sold that car in 2015 if not 2014!! Funny too that no make/model/year is listed. Clearly it is a scam.
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Kitty19 Aug 2019
I thought about giving her the sweepstakes and just letting her fill them out, but she wants to go through whole experience of buying stamps and going to post office to mail. She was even keeping track of post office pickup times. When we offered to drop off for her insisted she had to do it. This is as addictive as crack to her.

I just came from post office picking up her mail, it’s full of this stuff. What to do!
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Well, if you're handling her mail, that's where the suspicion is stemming from in spite of her dementia...still aware and functional in many ways, sounds like my mom a bit.

I would carry on for her own well-being as you have been. I would keep a log so you know whom you have contacted and communicate with any of these places asking to have her name removed (or if you have to act like you ARE her. It is weird to intervene in another persons situation, but in our case, we use a PO Box because mom intercepts the mail or can throw it out or rip it up. Somehow the charities they were suckers to have found them even there and I continue to send things back. In fact, the PO told me I can write "return to sender" and I just put it back in the mail box. Some of these places are despicable and send something weekly.

Hopefully she'll drop it. My mom has been perturbed for instance when she was locked out of the laundry room, but she gave it up. And she still gets a few magazines at the house and never asks or wonders about the bills and other mail...
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It is imperative that you tell her a little fib - they've lost your address, they no longer send out mail to people, ANYTHING. Stop it now.
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Oh my goodness! I myself play Publisher's !!! And last year I did buy some things near the holidays, figured I'd give myself a better chance at winning (so I thought). Accumulated so much stuff and junk in my room that I finally quit. BUT, I still play the games online ( I also could not stand the mail generated by playing offline) and have fun doing so, and raising my score. Over 3 years playing, I have won $10, the first year, $20 the second year, and none so far this year :) BUT who knows, I have fun playing and maybe one day, they will knock at my door! If not, oh well, had fun playing.
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disgustedtoo Aug 2019
Better start practicing your acceptance speech and choosing the right outfit to wear...
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Day dreaming is fine. Everyone does that from time to time but you’re right an obsession is unhealthy. It’s marketing! The sweepstakes operate like that to make people feel that one day their big prize is coming! It’s a shame.
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Give her a weekly lottery ticket and see if she can be happy with that.

Meanwhile, you need to fence off her finances to pay her bills or put them on autopay.

Gambling gives her a sense of excitement, an adrenaline rush, that makes her feel more alive. Try asking her care facility if they have game nights that mom can participate in.
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Kitty19 Aug 2019
Hi Taarna,
I now have POA over moms finances. She’s not interested in lottery or gambling per se. She thinks Publisher Clearinghouse prize patrol will be pulling up to her door any minute now. Can’t convince her otherwise, been called pretty nasty words when I tried.
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Get power of atty. You pay all the bills. Give her the entry part and let her send it in. Tell her as often as you need "you do not have to buy or send money"
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NeedHelpWithMom Aug 2019
Good advice. Why do people think they have to buy all of that crap? Guess they think it increases their opportunity of winning.
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Tell her she is no longer receiving this type of mail because she moved. My Mom was obsessed with this as well. She was still living by herself at the time and I would drive down to visit once a month to take care of bills or other things that she needed help with. I would go through her mail and find stacks of this. Publishers Clearing House was probably one of the worst. She constantly bought crap from them thinking she could win. The turning point was when I discovered she was being scammed over the phone from Jamaica. Thank gosh she lived in a small town. The bank tellers where she banked called me and said she had withdrawn $6000 from her savings because she said she won a contest and she needed to send them this money so she would receive $250 Mil and a new Mercedes but not to tell anyone. I knew then it was time to move her in with me. Mom lived with me for 2.5 years and now resides in a Memory Care Facility just 10 minutes from me. I’m pretty sure she was scammed out of thousands of dollars a couple hundred at a time. She kept all her receipts so there was a money trail when I started going through all of her papers.
Unfortunately they all think they’re going to win. Best of luck!
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NeedHelpWithMom Aug 2019
I thought of that too. No longer receives due to moving. May work!
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Ah, yes!!  Been there, did that!  My mom told me about two years prior to being diagnosed with dementia that she was in trouble and thought that she was being scammed.  I offered to help her, TRIED to get her to let me help her, and she refused.  Then, when she was diagnosed with dementia, I had the wonderful task of trying to undo the scam that indeed she was entangled with.  I wrote letters, returned unopened things sent to her by this well known scam operation, sent scathingly HOT letters to them telling them to come and get what they claim she had not paid for or that I had not returned.  I finally got the guardianship attorney involved, she wrote them a letter, and it finally stopped after nearly three years after my mom mentioned it to me.  It was one of the worst periods of my care of her because I was fighting other things as well that she gotten herself into, and it has taken me nearly 3 years since becoming her POA and Guardian to finally gain control over everything.  I have earned EVERY gray hair I have on my head from all of this!
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thinklikeascam Sep 2019
Wow I can't imagine how many others are being victims of so many scams.. far worse than I thought.
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Give them to her but 'help' her with the filling out etc then 'mail' it for her .... right into the nearest waste basket at your home - she will be on board with this & you will have an activity[?] together - tell her you will do this once a week - don't worry they will keep sending these things forever

My friend was hooked on this & her executor couldn't get them to stop after she died so we started taking the ones with overseas return addresses & writing across 'unsolisted material return to sender' & they finally stop 6 months after she died
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How does mail go out where Mom is living now? If you gave her all the junk mail and an old checkbook for an account no longer active or maybe have some made up without an account number at the bottom (do they do that?) and let her do her thing. When they come around to collect mail or she gives it to someone to mail, you could even create a box or something to be put in the cafeteria or somewhere meant for mail that never actually goes out?
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thinklikeascam Sep 2019
Great advise!
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Doing sweepstakes requires some intelligence. I guarantee you, she is filling the void in her life up. The thing to do, if you have the time, look over the sweeps & if they are harmless give them to her, but if they are trying to swindle her, go to the FTC or Consumers Protection for help & report it. Also, those who are trying to swindle her get them to remove her address off their mailing list. I would start logging down all these creeps & keep a record of it. Bingo is boring. Maybe, she would like writing or researching something. Be kind to her, because someday remember you will age to. Frustrating, I understand, but as one ages, some people purpose are deleted & they might not feel like they have any value or purpose.
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Give her what she is Used to, It will help Her Deal with her Dementia...Please, Dear...HEAR.xxoo
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Many sweepstakes don't require purchases. Can you keep them and ask to be removed from the mailing list for all of the others?
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My mom wouldn’t play bingo either when she was in the skilled nursing rehab facility. Don’t blame her. Kind of boring.

Can you tell her that she is no longer on their mailing list? Trying to think of something.

Would she know if it would be something that you typed up? Just to occupy her with something.

Does she have any friends to keep her company?
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Yep,

Confiscate her mail!

Isn’t it a shame these shenanigans are legal? They prey on the vulnerability of others. So sad.

Guess bingo won’t substitute for it, huh? All old folks places have bingo, right.
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Kitty19 Aug 2019
They actually do have bingo and other activities but she’s not interested. This is so frustrating because she contacts me daily to bring her mail to her so she can go through sweepstakes mail.

I just don’t know what to do
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Wow! Rehearsing her acceptance speech! Now that’s just precious. Maybe just go with that. OMG MOM YOU WON! Get a cake have a party. Show her a big fake check.

On second thought, that’s maybe too much. I’m all for fibbing but may not be good to have dementia theater.
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I went through this madness with both my parents until I was able to get total control of the mail and finances. That really is the only solution.

My Mom would agonize for hours over all the junk mail charities trinkets and trash. The phone scams were the worst. I was able to shut a couple down just in the nick of time.

With your mom you might try bringing her the junk mail, let her muck around with it, fill out some forms etc, and go through the motions of mailing for her. Then off to recycle ya go. I used to have mom’s fav grandson visit her and sneak out most of the junk mail. In dealing with dementia you have to be sly and do what has to be done.
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Kitty19 Aug 2019
We were sorting through her mail, and trying to confiscate as much of the sweepstakes mail prior to move to board/care. Her mail currently going through me but the obsession is so intense I’m hoping it will become out of sight out of mind like so many things with her right now.

She actually practices her speech for TV appearance for when she wins and is constantly going through wardrobe for just right outfit to wear. She’s in deep!
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How frustrating - for both of you. I agree with you no longer giving them to her. Or is there some way for her to "play" without her actually wasting her money? Like "fake" checks for her to use? Or give them to you to "mail", by not allowing her any stamps?

Good luck.
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