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I understand the concerns with showering patients with dementia; however, if skin infections generated from the lack of cleanliness lead to a further infection, leading to blood sepsis, whose to blame? The patient cannot be held liable regarding "consent" about a shower, and the facility is liable for the unclean state the patient is in. What's the answer here?

These days the “ right to rot “ is being more widely accepted. Facilities that I have dealt with have said the resident has the right to refuse .

The tricky part is to find a staff member who is able to cajole them into taking a shower . One who will also tell them it’s time to take a shower without asking, therefore attempting to take away the choice. This still doesn’t always work though.

My own mother had dementia was in assisted living and did not allow staff to shower her for a year . They said they could not force her. My mother was doing OK on her own with sink baths and going to the hair salon weekly at her facility . She also handled her own incontinence. Although then she lost the ability to do her own sink baths and also was no longer changing her incontinence brief often enough . It got so bad , I was given a warning that if Mom refused to shower a 30 day notice to move Mom to another facilty , SNF for uncontrolled incontinence. We had a very similar experience with my FIL in a different facility . They said he could refuse , but that they can kick him out of assisted living . For both , we had just began searching for an SNF when they died , one from CHF , probable heart attack as well . The other from CHF, COPD and Covid.

Unfortunately , this is how it is these days. A long time ago this would have been neglect . Now it’s just the resident’s rights to refuse .
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Isthisrealyreal Jul 7, 2025
I have to say that someone in memory care should not be allowed to have the right to endanger themselves, that's the whole point of memory care, to keep them safe.

Such a sad thing, all because facilities are money making businesses and not truly care facilities.
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There's another issue: not only does the patient refuse to shower, they can become violent over it. They assault the aides or family members who are trying to help them shower, sometimes causing serious injury. Their aggression can be countered somewhat by having multiple people assisting them, but how many? Three is not uncommon, but what about four? Five? How many can be assigned to one person without slighting other patients who at that time need assistance with something?

Medications might help calm the patient, but then they become dizzy or floppy. Not good. I'm interested in what others might suggest for this problem.
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waytomisery Jul 7, 2025
I did that , 30 years ago we used to have 2-3 of us wrestle with patients who had dementia in the nursing home to get them in a shower chair and shower them quick . Yes , we got kicked , punched , bit , hair pulled , you name it .
We would have gotten in trouble for not giving a shower. Today it’s the opposite . You could get in trouble for forcing it .
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Was your LO always a shower person ? Or not ? Some never liked showers their whole life and they get upset with the water hitting their head .
Perhaps your LO would allow sponge baths , and hair washed weekly at the hair salon .

Although my mother refused help from staff either way . She was mostly a bath person and wash hair in sink person her whole life .
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waytomisery Jul 7, 2025
My mother’s problem was she could not get over the embarrassment of disrobing .
My FIL’s issue was he was constantly trying to prove he belonged in Independent Living . He insisted he did not belong in AL so long as he could dress himself and walk . He refused help .
They could not be cajoled with its “ spa day “ or to “ get cleaned up to go out either” . Nothing worked .
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Never ask if they want to shower. I just said "time for a shower" to my Mom. We undressed her in the warm bathroom. It was a shower stall so she just walked in and sat down on a shower bench. There was a bar to hold on to going in an out and a bar next to the bench for helping her up. I had a handheld showerhead that I rinsed her down, then soaped her up and rinsed again. The quicker you wash her and dry the better. The water never touched her face. I put a towel on the toilet seat, and she sat there why I dried her off. We dressed in the bathroom where it was warm.

Think of your parent as a small child. Many do not like showers.
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