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My 83 year old mother is in the late middle stage of Alzheimer’s. She has had a live in caregiver for 8 months. Her paranoia is increasing and she complains constantly about the caregiver (she doesn’t like me, she won’t talk to me) and has recently added yelling, pushing and swatting to the list of complaints. We have cameras in the house and I spend 4 days there weekly. I’m confident this is not occurring. I understand in her reality this is happening. I’m looking for how to handle this. Out of all the frustration that goes along with caring for someone with Alzheimer’s, this is the most difficult for me to cope with. Everything I’ve read says to go along with it, connect with the feelings. I feel like I’m feeding the fire. My mother has always been a negative, no one likes me, type of person. When I connect with these feelings she ramps up the accusations. She’s very difficult to distract or redirect. Helpful suggestions, please!

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Sorry - I am here to observe, not offer any suggestions. We are in a similar position. Very difficult to distract or redirect my mother. I’m afraid I’ll lose my cool as it’s the same accusations and complaints every day. Good luck to you!
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KaleyBug Apr 2020
See if the doctor prescribe a prescription to help. My MIL lived with us around 8 years ago for her last 5 years. She lived until 97. She had sundown syndrome. The doctor gave us a pill that calmed her during these times.
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Have you talked to her doctor about the paranoia and if there is a medication to help to calm her?

34 years ago, Mum's best friend was diagnozed with early onset ALZ, in her late 50's. Within 5 years she was calling to police because she did not recognize her husband. She took a knife to him one day too. So paranoia is a very serious issue that needs to be dealt with.
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What does the caregiver say?

You know that what your mother describes is not happening in reality. You know for a fact that the caregiver is not handling your mother roughly or unkindly.

Of what you observe, what could your mother be interpreting or later recollecting in this way? It could be that by working constructively with the caregiver, the two of you could find subtle alterations in routine, or words, or touch, or use different signals and conversation pathways, that would help to alter your mother's perceptions.

At the very least, the caregiver deserves your support in handling your mother so that she knows that whatever your mother says to you, she the caregiver has your trust and full confidence. So if you haven't addressed the issue with her, do so. Make absolutely certain that the caregiver understands that there is no suggestion that her care is being called into question, but that you are looking for ways to reassure your mother and reduce her negative feelings.

And, of course, it's equally possible that the caregiver hears constantly that you are a wicked ungrateful child who has abandoned her mother, and is equally aware that that isn't true either! A mutually supportive relationship between the two of you would be an excellent outcome for your mother as well as both of you.
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First Thing I did was have my son Install Nest Cameras so I could watch what's going on at Anytime.

I would at least believe partly what your mom is saying.

I went thru the same thing with my 95 yr old Dad that has 24 hr Care in his own home going on 7 months now.

Of course the Caregivers are Angels in front of you.

But, being with a needy person 24 7 can and will ware out the best.

I started checking on my Dad throughout the day and night at random times, especially between midnight and 4 AM. When my Dad had an allergy breakout and was itching all the time and couldn't sleep.

My Dad basically stays in his Recliner 24 7 except to go to the table to eat his meals.

Sonetime he'll lay in his bed an hour or two but he seems to be more comfortable in his recliner.

I had to talk to the Caregivers many times about things they were and were not doing like...

Masking my Dad stay in his bed when he would say his back was hurting and to please take him back to his recliner, so I told them they are being paid to be there for my Dad and to do whatever he wants to do as long as it wasn't hurting himself or others.

They wouldn't talk to him and many times just not even answering him when he would ask for something. I did the same thing to them when I came over for a minute. Then told them see, how rude it is not to answer my Dad... I said if he wants you to rub his back because it itches, at least he the courtesy to answer him even if the answer is no. But I said it wouldn't hurt yo to rub his back a little once in a while during your shift that if my Dad could do it himself he would and it is pure he'll to be itching and not be able to scratch.

Grab or Slap at his hands when he was fooling with his catheter tube or scratching himself so I told them to Never Ever Touch Him Again.

Being too rough with him when cleaning him up and since they had him in his bathroom with the door closed, I couldn't see anything, just hear my Dad saying to stop, It hurts, don't be so rough, etc. After several times of that, I added a camera to his Bathroom.

They wouldn't give him food between meals when he asked for it so I told them that Dad is like a baby, he sleeps and eats thru out the day and to give him a snack like a breakfast bar and milk, yogurt, applesauce whatever anytime he says he's hungry that it certainly wouldn't hurt as he could use some weight put on him.

The absolute best thing I did was install the Nest Camera and just randomly tune in at all different times day and night and then you'll probably see that their is some truth in what your mom is saying.

There are good Caregivers out there but there are also not so good to even bad ones.

You'll need to at least weed the bad ones out.







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MaryKathleen Apr 2020
If he starts pulling at his catheter tube, and they can't touch him, what are they supposed to do? I am really curious about that.
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Since you have cameras and you are there a good portion of the week, I would think that you would be right that your mother’s paranoia is ramping up. I would explain what’s she saying to her caregiver, just so she’s in-the-know and then call your mother’s doctor for medication to ease her anxiety - which is the base of the paranoia. It must feel terrible to your mother, she would probably welcome some relief, even if she doesn’t realize it.
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Why not try explaining to your mom that you have cameras installed all around the house and you keep an eye on her through out the day and that you haven't seen the things she says is happening. Then, let your mom watch the Camera data to prove it.
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What's an OP, and you haven't seen what's on the cameras? Are you sure the OP has even looked? The more layers between you and the LO, the more opportunities for things to slip through the cracks...
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HelloImMinsu Apr 2020
OP means Original Poster. The person who created the thread. Sandy is saying she herself has looked at the cameras and seen nothing.
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I think not directly disagreeing is the recommendation but in order to deal without reinforcement distraction techniques are better. I use photographs a lot, the older the better. Talking about family weddings are a favourite. It is exhausting though! Good luck.
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Oh, never mind. Don't go along with it. But I agree about telling her about the cameras occasionally, on good days, when she seems semi-receptive to logic. You might also want to make up some sort of sound-detecting techology for the alleged yelling, telling her the only yelling being heard is hers... Try to be sympathetic that she feels put upon, but I think you're right to avoid the lie, because it wouldn't be at all therapeutic here.
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I have had great success with cbd oil.
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Screennamed Apr 2020
It's amazing the high levels of success that CBD oil has with epilepsy and M.S. and Alz. Great suggestion.
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You’ve gotten good suggestions related to medication and the cameras. When mom was complaining about dad (making accusations I knew were not true and were difficult to hear), I would acknowledge what she felt—fear, difficulty trusting—and then suggest maybe those feelings had caused a bad dream that felt very real. Sometimes that worked, sometimes not. I also used to ask how I could help her feel better, again with mixed results. As things got worse we went the medication route and it made a huge difference. Sending you warm thoughts for the road ahead.
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I would allow her to say what she wants to say and then I would redirect the conversation to another subject. You may need to frequently redirect her. I would also suggest that it may be better not to ignore her complaints or invalidate them. In her mind, her concerns are legitimate and real. Another suggestion I have is contacting her physician to determine if any medications would be helpful. Taking breaks while you are visiting may help with redirection too. Good luck.
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We thought it wasn’t true- but it was:

these things happen so quickly... it’s a moment and hard to catch on camera unless you’re *really* looking. ‘Helping’ someone walk turns into a small push from behind. Deliberately getting shampoo in their eyes. Being rough during diaper changes/personal care.

Even nastier things that are more deliberate aren’t always visible. Food prep just off camera includes an added step of spitting into it so the senior can see - but you can’t- then coming into camera and trying to feed them.

The knowledge of the cameras was less of a preventative than we believed.
The thing is, once it happens in a moment of frustration, and it’s gotten away with- the individual thinks a) either they aren’t checking the cameras often or b) they saw it and don’t care
and even if asked, confronted outright- they think either a) they aren’t paying attn to the cameras b) maybe cameras are just for show c) cameras are only on periodically and they haven’t seen it yet
(this is the biggie) e) they are in denial or want to be in denial- they want to be able to say they asked

theres even- ‘I’ll be more careful’ - for a little while. Then it happens again.

lots on this subject actually, we weren’t alone:
https://www.frameworksinstitute.org/assets/files/elder_abuse_mtg_report_formatted_final.pdf

maybe it isn’t happening. Maybe it is. Unless you watch every day, solid - you don’t know.
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I have this to say. Your mother has a mental disease so no matter what the actual facts are, she is likely to distort them. Telling her to behave will do absolutely nothing. If the caretaker can handle the problems and doesn't get affected, I would just ignore your mother and her rantings. If there is a problem, that is another story. Now here is my question - given her mental condition and behavior why on earth is this woman obviously in your home where she is slowly destroying you? That just makes no sense whatsoever especially how she has and does treat you. She belongs in a facility so you can have some peace in your life. Please think of moving her at once.
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Unfortunately abuse is more common than most realize.

An abusive person can easily get their behaviors and statements dismissed as never happening, by claiming that the elder is paranoid, or uncooperative, or even more common, the elder "misunderstood" or "misinterpreted," what happened or was said. The caregivers who appear extremely nice and kind or dumb as rocks are the worst culprits at our facility

We've had workers and our management directly and passive aggressively abuse patients and residents at our facility, in front of witnesses. So, abuse happens; remember verbal abuse, is the easiest way to abuse, since no paper trail exists and due to the ease of fabricating a papertrail, that describes the elder as being paranoid or as being a danger to others.

You might want to move those cameras or nanny cams to new locations to ensure that you're not missing something happening.

Those abusive personalities depend upon everyone to dismiss the abuse as if it never would or could happen. She would never say that!! Or .... they could never harm a fly, they're so nice ...

Questions: Are the workers aware of your cameras? Unfortunately, if the employees know where the cameras are located, the abuse will still happen just in a more covert manner. How was your mother diagnosed, did a neurologist with CT scans diagnose her, when was her most recent scans?
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So, let's automatically blame the care giver & say that she's abusive to the elder in some way, forgetting the fact that:

1: Mother has moderate Alzheimers & is prone to story telling & paranoia
2: The OP has cameras installed and hasn't seen any problems occurring on film.
3: The OP spends 4 days a week at her mother's home and sees no abuse going on with this live in care giver.

I doubt the OP is asking what she should do about the care giver here...........but what to do about her mother who is inventing troublesome stories about the care giver, as people with Alzheimer's often, very often, do.

To the OP, if you feel safe and secure with this care giver in your home because you're comfortable with her and all the precautions you've taken, then I would sit down for a chat with her. Perhaps the two of you can devise a plan to deal with mother and her predisposition to story-telling. Is the care giver upset? Or does she just brush it all off to the woman's disease?

If the care giver is okay with your mother's behavior & accusations, I'd just give your mother a platitude like "that's unfortunate, I'm sorry to hear it, I will speak with her about it." Just keep repeating those same lines whenever your mom complains. If you can divert her attention to something else, food is usually an excellent deterrent for my mother, then that would be ideal. If not, just sympathize with her........that's all you can do.

Wishing you the best of luck with all of this............it's a lot to deal with, I know.
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Great advice and support given to you here! I would add to be careful about how you handle accusations towards the caregiver; she might be difficult to replace, and her replacement might very well play out in the same manner.
Your Mom would probably be reluctant to let a new person take over, and you and your family might be stuck providing all the care yourselves. Are you prepared for that situation?
Is your Mom able to provide specific examples about which that you can delicately ask the care provider ? Would a new provider ( or you and your family) be accused of the same offenses if you went through the process of eliminating the current caregiver? I’m so sorry that you’re having to deal with this agonizing process at this time. Please update us and let us know what you decide to do.
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She probably is feeling a loss of control, confusion and frustration. She vents to deal with her negative feelings. She probably would prefer living her own life without anybody's help. Unfortunately, she does need help and a continual caregiver presence. Maybe try asking her about activities she would like to to or has enjoyed in the past. If she had something she could focus on and control, she might feel less frustration. If diversionary activities and diverting to other topics doesn't work, you may need to talk with her doctor. A mild mood-enhancing drug may help her to relax and feel less anxiety or frustration.
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Wow. So no doubt since the elder has a broken mind and that can't be amended, she is going to lash out to the caregiver - the person who's trying to help her. I've seen this happen so often - my mother was starting with dementia and was convinced that her DIL didn't like her. I don't know where she got that notion since my sister in law is a very nice person. Prayers sent to you.
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My father is in the late stages, too. He doesn't talk, but will get mad at me for whatever reason/moving a pillow. I leave the room & put on a different colored shirt. Dad thinks I'm a different person when I come back into his room. Maybe you can say you fired them and this one(different shirt)is the new CG. Not sure if this will work in your case. Loved ones can be delusional, at this point. Good CGs are hard to find.
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