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My MIL has lived with us for about seven months. She can toilet herself, bathe herself, but she cannot manage her medications, will not eat without having her meals prepared and she mostly sits in the recliner all day. We have five children, ages ranging from 1-15 years old. My husband has been unemployed for the last five months and has taken on all the caregiving responsibilities for his mom. She is very entitled- I am learning that is pretty typical- and can be rude. Having all the kids around, we have a busy home and family! She can be left alone, but not for long swaths of time. She complains nearly constantly if she is left alone at all. She dominates the TV and if we want to change the channel or watch something else, she complains. She complains about the noise and the baby. She will not spend time in her own room/space where she does have her own tv. She says she will but she does not seem to want to. We moved the three boys into one bedroom and finished the basement, adding windows and creating new bedrooms so she could have her own space. I thought once everybody had their own space, things would improve but they have not. She deals with incontinence and she will not get up to change her depends though she is capable of doing so. When she would finally get up, she would sometimes leave a trail of urine on the floor. I told her finally that I need her to change more frequently because the baby is crawling around and that is not sanitary or safe. We put pads down on the furniture, but it's a sensitive subject and hard to manage.
My husband gets very agitated when I express myself to him, but I am at the end of my rope. I feel so guilty that I can't just grin and bear it or just look at it as service and be happy or content with serving her in this way. I feel so guilty when I say anything about it being difficult. I am very worried about the effect this may have on my kids, especially because I am not handling things well. On the outside, I think things look okay, but I feel myself changing my behavior to avoid the situation. We took a respite weekend and she stayed in an AL apartment and we took the kids to Holiday World, and it was so lovely, but as soon as we returned, everything went back to the way it was. My husband and my relationship is strained, and he feels put in the middle. I am feeling myself avoiding her and avoiding home. I will take the kids out to avoid being there. It just isn't working. My husband suggests that I work on my relationship with his mom. It is just hard and I don't know what to do.

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Hi there.....wow, can I relate to almost 100% of what you're saying, though its my own mom that is causing the tension and its me that is talking, and sometimes loudly, about separation of space. My mom was living by herself but the conditions were horrible. She has never really been social and has no friends, is lonely, however we all are working and just want some peace and quiet along with some private family time when we get home. My mom sits in a chair literally all day long and watches TV doing little else.

Prior to her moving in we had discussions about what co-habitating was going to look like and she has a beautifully finished basement but spends little time there. She doesn't help much around the house and this causes quite a bit of tension because she's able but can be quite lazy. She does dominate the tv though I've taken that control back and now I just say "if you want to continue watching this you'll need to put on downstairs" which sometimes goes okay and other times not so much though we specifically talked about this before she moved in. Problem is now she says she doesn't recall the pre-move in discussions. She can be alone for bits of time but not overnight. I need to talk with her about temporary care in a facility for when we go away but not sure just yet how to approach that subject.

Please don't feel guilty!! Your husband needs to consider his own family, most importantly you, while trying to balance and adjust to make things much more tolerable, first for you, then the entire family, assuming that is possible. If not, then the times of escape will become much needed for your sanity.

I was foolish, I told my mom we were like the Waltons, if you move in we expect you to be a contributor not a "needer". In the Waltons the grandparents lived in the same house but they were major contributors to the running of the house. Either I have allowed or my mom somehow just became another dependent. She can't use a cell phone or the microwave and we don't trust her with the stove. I guess at the end of the day just know you're not alone. I know on someday this provides little to no comfort but there are many of us out here struggling with exactly the situations you shared.

There are factors within and outside of our control ranging across a very wide spectrum, like financial possibilities (full time facility vs in home visits), health (physical and mental, yours and entire family) and relationship. We struggle with the fulltime facility option but the finances simply aren't there. Im learning to start incrementally with what I can control though I tell you its not easy, I literally evaluate myself everyday to see where, if possible I could have done or behaved differently to make things more tolerable. There may come a time when the things outside my control will move into my sphere of control. I don't want to always be responsive and never ever proactive but I know some very tough decisions will be in my future, my mom is 88.
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I sympathize with you..the LAST thing you must do is “work on relationship with his mom!” Not your job. Husband must work on relationship with you. He’s putting his mother before you and this is not right. MIL will decline more…she’s probably getting dementia. If she’s incontinent this will turn worse. She can’t be left alone so look for assisted living facilities that can progress to memory care. If you don’t change situation, you’ll get angry and sick. Goods luck. Hugs 🤗
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You do not mention any medical diagnosis.
You do not mention why MIL is living with you.
I am going to presume that MIL has dementia.
Since your husband is unemployed at this time (you do not mention if he is looking or if caring for his mom will now be his job)
He should be getting his mom up EVERY 2 hours and getting her to the bathroom. He needs to monitor her in the bathroom. And he does all the personal care for her. Bath, shower, hair, dressing...
By the way if there is an Adult Day Program in your area get her enrolled in that.
He is the one that should be fixing her meals when she is not having a meal with the family.
And if mom is getting any income from pension or social security then she should be paying her fair share of ALL household expenses. (so that would be 1/8th of mortgage, utilities, property taxes, food...) And she should be paying the going rate for caregiver services. That should ease the financial burden of him not working at this time.
This should all be documented in contract so that what she will be paying does not look like "gifting" so if there needs to be an application for Medicaid in the future what she has paid you is not going to delay the process.

I think with 5 kids you should also take more time for "date nights" and use that time to get away for a bit just the 2 of you. Even without MIL living with you taking care of 5 kids is a lot.
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My own mother had this effect on my family. She had manic episodes, would refuse to put her urine soaked clothes and bedding in a hamper I provided and put her wet diapers and pads all over her bedroom floor. She would get angry when I would go places without her and told me I loved my daughter more than her. She was capable of doing more for herself if I was not there but would start moaning and groaning when I was there and tell me she couldn’t do anything basically. She did not have a relationship with my children and my father her husband dropped her off at my house that my husband and I rented. My youngest already had misgivings about adults and with all that went on she began to tremble and cry every time we would have to return home and it came to the point I kept clothes in my car for every occasion so the kids would not have to be at home- I homeschooled, worked, and am married- We had to move as the house was being sold I tried to get her to go to assisted living get senior care services get mental care but she refused all and continued to make me the villain I helped her move to an apartment so she would have somewhere to live and help with grocery ordering and doctors appointments My grown children do not have relationships with her She has blamed me for all of that, her isolation and told me I was going to hell for not continuing to endure a relationship from my abusive father. He passed recently in South Africa where he was living with his girlfriend and now my mother is accusing me of being a liar and my husband and I of bullying her. The rental house was unhealthy the urine smell was so bad throughout the house my daughter couldn’t even be in her own room and my kids quit inviting friends over because of my mother’s behavior. It has affected my whole family and took a toll on my marriage. You are not doing anything wrong by wanting to put your children first by wanting your marital relationship on better terms. Your mother in law raised her kids; the urine is a big health hazard. I would talk to her doctor because it is creating unsafe living conditions. From experience she will always be the victim and everything is someone else’s fault and no one else matters. I am caring for my grandkids while my daughter in law recovers from open heart surgery and my mother continues to make it about her not seeing them when at one point she said she didn’t care what was wrong with my daughter in law. It does not get better only worse the longer it’s allowed to go on. Your family’s needs should come first and your mother in law needs mental help and senior care services. Also reaching out to a therapist even virtually for you may help.
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When is your husband planning to go back to work or does he propose being his mom’s caregiver indefinitely?

Also the detail about finishing the basement to add bedrooms makes me worry that MIL’s finances have been commingled with yours and your husband’s. I hope not— that makes this whole thing harder to disentangle.
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It would be nice to know the age of your MIL.

Maybe not so much a Mama's boy but maybe a lot of guilt. Tell him her living there is not working because she will not do anything to help herself. First, she has an area of her own. Thats were she needs to stay. The kids need the rest of the house for themselves. She needs to change her briefs more often. Maybe get herself up every 2 hours and go to the bathroom. She can and needs to do more for herself. He is enabling her. When he goes back to work, you will not be waiting on her. He and his Mom need to understand that the house is yours. That she needs to acclimate herself to your rules not the other way around. If she wants to be waited on, and has the money, she needs to go to an AL. You will not be her servant. You have 5 kids to care for.
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Your husband suggests you work on your relationship with his mom?? What about his mom working on her relationship with you?

That said, she is clearly not able to live in your home due to her incontinence, inability to live peacefully with others, rudeness and ingratitude. How awful for your children to have to live this way! It is not okay. She's beyond what is tolerable. Please don't tolerate it anymore for your sake as well as the childrens'.

I don't see this ending well. If husband is telling himself he cannot take a job because he has to stay home and take care of his mom, how do you get out of that mindset? If he does take a job, are you expected to take care of mom AND five kids? Impossible. Mom already needs one caregiver 24/7 and is headed toward that not being enough.

My sympathies to you, I wish the situation were better. The only advice I can offer is to put yourself and the kids first and let husband and mom be their own separate clan. How to do that is up to you, and I wish you luck.
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Your husband needs to put you first. Way first.

You need to be really firm. Either she moves out or you move out with the kids.
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Guilt is inappropriate. It requires causation and refusal to fix things. That isn't the case here. What is the case here is that your husband has decided apparently without permission or consultation to move his mother into a home in which his obligation is to his wife and children.

If you cannot live in this situation I am thinking that means a divorce. But you have quite a number of children here; I would try a consultation in marital counseling. If that doesn't work I would request mediations. If that didn't work I would "go away" for a month to let hubby know that you are quite serious. If none of the above worked I do believe you will need to consider living as you are because of your children, or leaving on your own, or with your children. I cannot imagine other solutions, myself. Perhaps working two jobs so hubby can stay home being chief cook and bottle-washer as well as caregiver to mom and kids. That might be a solution that keeps you out of the home, especially if you can find a job with a lot of overtime or travel time.
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She needs to go. Enough is enough. Starting today, you and your husband STOP CATERING to her demands. Don't allow her to "dominate" anything in your house. When she starts up with the entitled behavior, the demands, and the stubbornness about refusing to change her pee-soaked Depend, remind her that she lives in your house and her BS is not going to be tolerated.

You need to set your husband right. You don't have to work on your relationship with his mother. He has to work on his relationship with YOU. A married man is not supposed to put his mother before his wife. Remind him that he took a vow of 'forsaking all others' when he married you. That doesn't just mean not having other women. That means you come before all others and all things in his life. Including his mother and his children. Hold him to it.

Your MIL is moving out. This must be without question. Your husband must be made to understand that either his mother moves into assisted living or your marriage moves into the divorce court.
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For the Short Term, Is she contributing financially to your home expenses every month? Husband should inform her that $1000. A month or whatever amount will be deducted from her account and deposited into yours for her living expenses. Getting some fixed amount, 1000 to 1500 monthly may cushion the resentment of this sorry situation, In the Short Term. Especially since husband not working. Also, she can have tasks assigned like folding laundry, putting things from washer to dryer, doing meal prep seated at table, cleaning countertops and possibly vacuuming. Her TV is in her area. You and your family watch your tv. If she doesn’t like what you’re watching, she can watch whatever she chooses in her area. Good job on the respite in ALF. This should be a week a month. Until husband transitions her to ALF permanently. This is a marriage problem. Husband is caught trying to please mother and being manipulated by her guilt trips. When did you first see this dynamic earlier in your marriage or dating? What did you think then? What changed that brought her under your roof?
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OMG....FIVE KIDS and a unemployed Husband...plus his elderly Mother?
Why is she living there in the first place? Does she pay any rent, or buy any food?
Where (and how) was she living before you moved her into your home?

After 7 months, I'd be ready to get the Senior Brat out of there! Your husband is unemployed 5 months (so has had plenty of exposure to) and has not gotten sick of his Mom's selfishness YET?

He needs to face reality. This situation will destroy his marriage and family, which should be his top priority. He needs to either get control over his rude Mother, or find somewhere else for her to live.

He made marriage vows to you, not his Mother. She is a burden that neither of you need right now.
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Time to lay down the law. You built a space just for her, so she needs to use that space. No more using YOUR tv, she uses the one she has in her room. She eats with the rest of you as a family, but you are not her entertainment committee. If she can't keep clean, then she needs to keep off of the common area furniture.

Tell your husband that if he wants you to work on your relationship with his mother, he will not like it. You will law down the law and you won't be nice about it...or he can convey the new rules in a nicer manner.

He is in the middle because he won't man up and pick a side. Tell him he needs to get this right because if he leaves you to deal with it you won't be nice.
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This seems to be a marriage problem. You are not his #1 priority: his Mommy is. Maybe talk to him and tell him that you want her out, you want your lives and privacy and marriage back, and that counseling is the first step. If he can't even accept counseling, then I think you have to make a big decision.
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What?!?! Your husband wants you to work on your relationship with his mom instead of working on getting her out of the house???
Oh my, I hope this isn't more of a marriage issue than it is a MIL issue, as any man that would put his moms well-being over his wife's and children's is no man at all, but is a mama's boy. And that is NEVER good for a marriage.
You deserve better and your children deserve better!
And no child should have to worry about crawling through grandmas pee on the floor, because she's too lazy to change her Depends more often. That is down right disgusting.
The only real solution here is to have your MIL move into an assisted living facility(that she pays for not you) where she can be around other folks her own age and have all the control she wants over her TV.
Either that or you move out and take the children with you and let your hubby and MIL live happily ever after. The choice is yours.
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cover9339 May 30, 2025
I don't think MIL is going anywhere, hence the comment work on a better relationship with his mom.

She probably knows this and is using it as advantage to how she acts, hence also going in her depends, then leaving a trail of urine on the floor when she gets up out of the chair, knowing she won't be the one to clean that up. as one example.
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