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My husband & I unfortunately live in different countries for now and he is a caregiver for his parents who's health are rapidly declining especially this year. He has no siblings, cousins, aunts, or uncles who can help out, so he is fully on his own. He's incredibly burnt-out & I said some things I feel terrible about last night.
Last night we had our first argument ever in 3 years because every time he's supposed to come visit, there's always something that pops up the day before with his parents. The first few times this happened I thought ok, this is just bad luck and a coincidence, but now I've caught onto the pattern. Things will be smooth sailings for a while, then all of a sudden things go south right before he's about to leave.. I think they're afraid to let him leave for a week or two and they act up (usually I'd cave & go alright I'll just come to you then, don't worry about it). He was supposed to be here a week ago but there was "scheduling issues" with the nurses coming to the home legit the day before leaving (I'm 99% sure his dad called them and messed with the schedule). Now there's "emergency appointments" all of a sudden (which aren't really emergencies) so he can't be here for another few days. This has happened before & it ends up the whole trip is cancelled cuz things keep popping up and we don't get to see each other.
I got really upset last night over video call & told him I'm starting to resent his parents for not letting him leave, the way they treat him, & for the incredible amount of debt they just discovered they're in (meaning finding proper care for them isn't an option). I also said this isn't how I expected our marriage to go & that I'm worried rarely being able to see each other is going to drive us apart, and that I don't want to stay at his parents' house anymore if I don't have to. I also told him I'm angry that he hasn't taken matters into his own hands when it comes to scheduling nurses early enough before a planned trip instead of leaving it up to his parents. I told him too that they have had over 50 years of marriage, now it's our turn to have a chance at that.. we should be building a life together, not have our lives evolve around his parents..
My poor husband is so burnt out, just exhausted and depressed. He's got so much on his plate so I feel horrible for what I said. On the other hand I've been supporting, patient, and helping out whenever I'm there. He's very hurt by what I said last night, I understand why and I should've handled it differently. He thinks our marriage isn't as strong as he thought it was before last night.
I don't know what to do to make his life easier anymore. I'd never leave him, ever, but it feels like it's starting to be too much for both of us & I'm starting to get fed up. He's trying to please everyone which is impossible, and his own well-being is on the back burner which is very sad.



Any advice on how to handle this? How can I help my husband balance his life more? How can I talk to him about how I feel without being selfish? How to talk to his parents about letting him leave once in a while despite their fears (his dad is a classic aging narcissist and his mom is very passive, making them difficult to reason with)? What kind of additional support can be set up for them to make sure they feel comfortable him being gone sometimes?

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Where is this other country - on the moon? They don't have one single assisted living facility anywhere in that whole country? Sorry, but it was ridiculous for him to completely abandon his spouse and travel to a whole other nation just to take care of his parents. Quite frankly, they sound pretty selfish that they don't seem to have any problem with their son abandoning his wife. They need to find local help, and if they don't like that, well, that's not your problem.

Sorry, but I think it's time for an ultimatum.
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ellamo Oct 10, 2023
I agree.. I think they've made it very difficult to find & accept help other than my husband. I understand he's stuck right now & he has a really hard time putting his foot down with them, but at the same time it's kinda like "people are treated the way they allow themselves to be treated" situation.
I don't know how to help him put up solid boundaries with them & explain to him in a kind way that our life together should be priority.
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Welcome, Ellamo!

It doesn't seem as though your husband is a free agent, does it?

When you guys got married, did you both understand that he was bound by culture/obligation to return to his parents' country to care for them?

How can a marriage be "strong" when one of the parties is more committed to parents and not to his wife?

Was this expected care of them discussed by you two before you married?
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ellamo Oct 10, 2023
I understood that his parents need him and they're health is only getting worse, but I didn't realize he would almost never be able to come to my home anymore. And I didn't realize it would get to the point that he is their servant & give in to their every request/demand.

I don't know what to do, it feels wrong and unfair to make him choose between me & his parents which is why I've let things go until last night
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You say, "He thinks our marriage isn't as strong as he thought it was before last night." Is his idea of a "strong marriage" one where the hubby is gone to another country all the time, caring for super manipulative elderly parents, and leaving his wife alone to care for herself? Because if so, he's putting the blame for this ridiculous situation on YOU, where it does not belong. Passive-aggressive manipulation of YOU is not going to solve this dilemma. Only HIS adult handling of the matter will.

Best of luck to you.
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ellamo Oct 10, 2023
Trying to balance marital and caregiver responsibilities has been a real struggle for him. However tho you're right. I think I was harsh with the way I said things last night but I don't think I was totally in the wrong with how I feel. I don't know how to tell him that in a gentle, constructive way or how to help him through this.
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Well, of course I agree 100% with the other commenters here, but let me offer something else:

Do a 180. You KNOW by now that nagging, recriminating, railing, accusing (all quite justified!) is just…NOT working on this guy. And he has had the GALL to begin to question the marriage? Oh, sheesh! YOU are the one who ought to be questioning it.

But back to the 180. Do a turnaround. Be calm and neutral on the phone, don’t argue…just basically say, “mmm-hmmm, yes,I see…” and get off the line after a few polite sentences. Distance yourself emotionally. Let him SEE that you are just…over all the quibbling about it. Don’t call him, and maybe don’t answer his calls for a day or two. When he does get in touch, just say, “oh, I assumed you were busy with them.”

If he wants you two to stay married, he will sense your distancing, and make an effort to get his priorities straight. If not, well…call a lawyer. This would be a deal-breaker for me, frankly.
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Southernwaver Oct 10, 2023
Yes, this entire situation is a giant bunch of BS
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So does he have no siblings or no siblings who will help out? Why won’t your husband come home? For real.
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BurntCaregiver Oct 10, 2023
@Southernwaver

What reason would come to your mind for why the husband won't come home?

I know what I'm thinking.
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The problem here isn't your in-laws fake "emergencies" that pop up every time your husband is supposed to come visit you.
Granted, old people pull the fake "emergencies", the "staged" falls, and the fabricated "crises" all the time as a tool to control and manipulate the people in their lives. It's also a common practice to get attention.

There does come a time when even the people who love them the most say enough already.

The fact that your husband isn't telling his parents enough already and returning to his rightful place with you his wife, is what I'd be worried about.

His parents can be put into a care home. Such places do exist all over the world. You say they've got nurses coming and they have a house so I'm going to assume that they're not living in the third-world.

My friend, I don't want to be the one to tell you what I think you probably already know and if you don't then you probably have some suspicions.

Your husband is using his parents and the 24/7 caregiving he has to do for them as an excuse not to return home.
My guess would be he probably has another woman in the country he's living in.

I think it's time for you to take a little trip and see for yourself just how bad off your in-laws are and how much caregiving they actually need. Make it a surprise visit.

Then talk to a divorce lawyer.
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MargaretMcKen Oct 10, 2023
Interesting, I usually suspect the money, not the bit on the side. But he’s been away a long time to do with the conjugal stuff, so perhaps you are right!
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Ellamo, you are NOT wrong to be angry. Your husband's expectations of you are unreasonable.

There is a book called Boundaries by Townsend and Cloud that might be useful for you and your husband to read.

He needs to get in touch with social services in their country and find out how destitute elders are cared for there.

Did your husband grow up in a culture in which parents legitimately think of their children as their retirement plan? If so, then he had no right to marry someone who didn't anticipate a life of servitude and self-abnegation.
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BurntCaregiver Oct 10, 2023
@Barb

The parents are probably in on the scam to get their married off to an American, Canadian, or Western European spouse.
This way they can also benefit from the meal-ticket status.
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How can your marriage be strong WHEN HE IS NEVER THERE? Of course it’s not as strong as he thought because what he thought is delusional.
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You should not have married this man. He has already got the family he wants/the family he intends to support.

The baby bird grows and leaves the nest.
If the baby bird DOESN'T leave the nest when it is grown, then that baby bird is not ready to raise it's own family.

You don't have an inlaw problem.
You have a husband problem.

We cannot change others. We can only change our own choices. I think you will be very unhappy if you persist in unrealistic expectations of this man. It is said of broken marriages that the couple ALREADY KNEW what would break the marriage on the day they married. I have found this to be true, personally.

I wish you luck in your own choices. You already know things; you have choices to make that none of us can really assist you in.
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lealonnie1 Oct 10, 2023
Too late Alva, they're already married: "My husband & I unfortunately live in different countries....."
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Ellamo - Have you and your husband ever lived together? It may seem like a weird question, but I thought you wrote in one your responses something about him coming to your home and not our home. How long have you been married?

Good luck
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ellamo Oct 10, 2023
We haven't been able to live together because of his parents, though we've talked about him getting citizenship here since day 1. I've "lived" with him and his parents tho for a month or two at a time, but that's not our home. & We've been married 3 years
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I see. You have never truly lived together. Then for the me the answer to your question about resenting your in-laws is you should not resent them. You willingly agreed to marry this man. The in-laws are not the problem to me. It seems like the man is the problem. I would get out of this marriage as soon as I could.

Good luck!
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ellamo Oct 10, 2023
True, you're right about that.. I didn't think of it like that.. Sad thought..
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Girl, you are being played. Please don’t tell me you are supporting this man.
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ellamo Oct 10, 2023
No I'm not financially supporting him at all
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You can't help him set solid boundaries if he doesn't want to do it.

Clearly he has other priorities when you should be his first concern. There's probably no point in discussing that with him because he's already made up his mind that his parasite parents come first.

If you aren't legally married, it's easy. Tell him it's over. If you are legally married, there's not much you can do except to insist that he support you financially. There are laws that can make him do that. The first thing on your mind (other than you have a husband who isn't being a good husband) is that you don't need to get pregnant. The issues you have now will be hugely magnified if you bear his child. Don't do it. Life will become immensely more difficult if you become a single mother.

I'm really very sorry you're going through this.
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I don't think ur a young person. Parents have to be 70 at least if married 50 yrs. Not really elderly. So u are 40s or 50s.

You were not wrong in telling DH what you did. He needs to know how you feel. You r not to blame here. A good marriage takes two people. Not a wife doing her share and the husband doing what ever. I think u have gotten the point that a couple of our members feel ur being scammed. Does this man have a green card? Even if he does, he has a foreign passport.

"Can I travel outside the U.S. with a green card? Yes, you can travel abroad as a green card holder — that's one of the many benefits of being a permanent resident. However, your trip must be temporary and you cannot remain outside the United States for more than 1 year."

How long has your husband been out of the US? Sounds like most of your married life. I may call that abandonment. I think you need to see a lawyer. You maybe able to get the marriage annulled. Like said, if ur sending money, stop.

I think you are here because you know something is not quite right. Time to let him go. You deserve better.
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BurntCaregiver Oct 10, 2023
@JoAnn

The husband could very well be returning to the United States periodically to abide by the rules of his greencard without letting his wife know he's here.

This lady is getting scammed good and no mistake.
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This man seems a committed family man. To his parents. Unless he changes his ways, he will become a single man.

Maybe he is proud & won't say he doesn’t know what else to do, who to ask for help.

Hopefully he can find support - a men's group or men's helpline, his faith or older uncles to teach him. How to be a good son but also how to be a husband.

Maybe it will or maybe it won't be in time to save this marriage with Ellamo.

PS. But I'd also pull that surprise visit - in case the other woman scenario was correct. Better to know than waste more time.
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BurntCaregiver Oct 10, 2023
@Beatty

After reading the comments here and given the information the OP provided, this is not a committed family man.

Quite the contrary, This sounds more and more like a romance scammer that wanted a greencard and an American meal-ticket. Or a reliable western European or Canadian one.

The OP needs to lay down the law here. Either they make a home together like a real married couple or else it's 'Adios' and good luck with the parents in whatever banana republic or third-world country the husband is in because he can stay there.

This OP needs to see a divorce lawyer and an immigration one.
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Yes, it is wrong because you are blaming them for your dutiful little boy husband's actions and that is unfair.

Please do not bring him home, he will make you miserable. He is as much as a narcissist as daddy. Blaming you for your feelings is a waving red flag that you made a huge mistake marrying this worthless male. Are you to blame that his mommy and daddy got old too?

Divorce him and move on!
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You are the only one in your marriage, last I knew it took 2 people to have a marriage.

Since you will never leave him you have no option but to accept that he is tied to them forever.

It's not them it's him, he has no backbone, obviously he is more attached to them than he is to you.

There are red flags waving in your face, pay attention.
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I’m catching up on your post but have read your replies. I’m so sorry for the sadness you’re experiencing. This unfortunately isn’t much of a marriage. Please know you are not making your husband choose between you and his parents, for he’s already made that choice. His actions prove it. There’s no use resenting the in-laws, your husband is doing exactly what they trained him to do and refusing to stand up to them, again, his choice. I’m sorry there won’t be any helping him cope better or finding nicer ways to talk, in the end he’s not coming, and you’re alone, and that’s no marriage. I’m truly sorry this happened to you, no one deserves this kind of treatment. Even if the in-laws passed away, and one day your husband came, you’d forever live with his resentment of your expecting him to come live with you during this time. Again, no one deserves that. I hope you’ll move forward in life minus this, I wish you peace
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This doesn't sound like much of a marriage. You only communicate through video chat. The parents aren't the problem, this man is. No one is that dedicated to his parents to leave his wife alone in another country.

This sounds fishy. I would see a divorce lawyer and get out of it. It sounds like a scam setup. How is he supporting himself? Does he have a job in this other country? Don't send him any more money if you've been sending it.
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MAYDAY Oct 11, 2023
VIDEO CHAT?

Tell him you want to say hello to his lovely parents !!
if they're asleep, that’s okay… just tip toe in the room and point the camera at them.
just be very quiet as to NOT Disturb them .
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Your in-laws are not hindering your "marriage", your "husband" is.
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OP, I recently read a book by a woman who was about to marry a man who faked his entire life history. She got suspicious, found out he was already married, the life history was totally made up, and she contacted the wife. Together they discovered that he had faked his entire (different) life history to the wife as well. They were both very very unhappy. He went to jail for some of the frauds.

The reason for writing this is that you (like them) feel committed to the guy, and don’t want the ‘other life priorities’ to be true. It’s a very very good idea to push it. You will be very bitter if you find out that the doubts on this thread are true, but the sooner you push it and find out, the less there is to be bitter about. Sympathy and best wishes, Margaret
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MargaretMcKen Oct 10, 2023
One of her suggestions was ‘always check very carefully when he’s away a lot’. That’s what it takes to lead a double life.
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If it’s true that the only reason your husband isn’t coming home is because of his parents …. He needs to grow a spine and tell them he’s going home to his wife , and get them placed in a facility since it appears they can’t be left alone.

I normally do not recommend ultimatums. But in this case, I don’t think you have anything to lose by one . It may answer some questions . I also recommend the surprise visit for answers .
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I was thinking about the suggestions for you to do a ‘surprise visit’ to check things out. I know that could be very expensive and difficult to arrange. I wonder if you could hire a local ‘private investigator’ to check and report to you. For example, if your husband IS leading you up the garden path about living with his parents, and actually has a wife and family, it should be easy and cheap to find out. It’s probably easier than arriving unannounced in a foreign country with no-where to stay. Worth a thought?
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MargaretMcKen Oct 11, 2023
I got interested in that book I referred to earlier, and found it on Google. It’s called “Duped: Double Lives, False Identities, and the Con Man I Almost Married”, by Abby Ellin. She got a lot of feedback on it. The library should have it, or it was $13 on Kindle.

I’m certainly not suggesting that this is the case for you and your husband, it’s just that it could just possibly stack up! Worth a thought!
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Ell, I don't think this is a "double life" scenario.

I think your husband just never learned how to say "no' to anyone. Except you.

Here's the thing. To marry, one must be a free agent and able to commit to be starting a new family unit.

HE has to make a choice, to commit to being married to you, and helping his parents ARRANGE care for themselves (no, Dad, I can't come take care of you.).

If he can't do that, he isn't living up to his part of the marriage contract.

It's just that simple. This is not a temporary problem, like a brief, acute illness or accident. This is an on-going "rest of their lives" scenario.

You would do well to seek an annulment or divorce now
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I'm going to disagree a little with most of the comments here. I don't disagree that ellamo may need to get out of the marriage. But I do think that it could be quite possible that there is nothing nefarious going on. I am fortunate that I've known a large number of people from 3rd-world countries, (and I don't know if ellamo's spouse is from a 3rd-world country). It's hard for us to comprehend the amount of responsibility children are expected to take for their parents in many cultures. Ellamo and he husband both made a mistake in trying to have a marriage in which one of the couple had to take care of his/her parents in another country. If her husband is from a culture where the normal plan is that the children take care of their elders, that really could be the reason her husband continues to stay with his parents. Before we postulate nefarious schemes involving marriage to try to stay in the U.S., a lover in another country, and plans to suck ellamo's money (which we do not know even exists), we should consider more seriously that that ellamo's husband really does feel he is more obligated to his parents than to her, and that that's how he was brought up.

This possibility does not help to solve the problem ellamo brought to us, but it suggests that the problem she brought to us is the relationship among her, her husband, and his parents. If there are any groups/organizations where ellamo lives that support immigrants from her husband's country, she could do well to get some counseling from that organization. (We do have that possibility where I Ilve through our International Institute.) They might be much better equipped to help her than we are! Understand that I'm not discounting all the suggestions that have been made, but that the first step may be to take the situation at face value. If her husband is, for example,, from England or New Zealand, or France, I am probably way off. But if he is from a 3rd-world country or from some Eastern or African cultures, then I believe the situation needs to be looked at from that cultural viewpoint first.
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I am curious how this all came about. You are married but living in separate countries. Have you ever lived together? Pre-caregiving, how did this all come about?
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Your in-laws have destroyed your marriage. You had every right to say what you did to him. Hopefully it was a wake up call.

If he values his marriage he needs to figure something out. If he can't or won't do that, then he's chosen his path. File for divorce.

If he knew he had this level of responsibility towards his parents, he really had no business getting married and subjecting a wife to this treatment. You as his wife should come first. Shame on him.
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Stop feeling guilty for expressing your frustration. And don't let the ABSENT husband guilt you about His expectations about the marriage. Maybe in his home culture wives are to be totally subservient, but that doesn't fly anymore. The replies here have many good points to consider: controlling in-laws, possible bigamy, etc. When you say 'my' home it seems you two did not discuss the shape/agreements of your partnership. Did you not know the guy you married had strong feelings of obligation to his parents? Did you agree to a part-time, long distance version of marriage? I lived in New Mexico for 40 years, my Hispanic neighbors told me many 'dichos', which are like proverbs; one was useful here: 'Amor de lejo es de pendejos': Love At a Distance is for Fools. Yes, some people make a long distance relationship work but most fail. And stop trying to figure out how to be 'nice' or 'gentle' about communicating your very legitimate concerns and very human needs: just be calm, honest, resolute. No need for histrionics, blaming; state YOUR truth and tell husband he needs to fix the situation. He needs to fix the situation; he may be so stressed because he's torn within himself. The only way you can 'help' him is by being crystal clear with yourself; then he can find his clarity. Then there may or may not be a marriage. Be willing to be single again if needed, so both of you can live however works for each of you. Be strong, be honest, don't grovel, be brave!
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You’ve only been married for 3 years, so of course you don’t want to give up yet, even if in your heart of hearts you probably realize this was a major life mistake. It happens. YOU go get counseling and talk it through with a neutral party. You’re not going to change anyone else, that’s just the reality. You need to get some support for your own needs. This, too, shall pass, one way or the other.
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Bobby40 Oct 18, 2023
Haven't had an argument in three years.
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I haven't read through all the posts.

How is he working and supporting both of you financially through all of this? Is there a reason why you can't go see him? Is there a reason why he can't move them into managed care? How about if you go over there and help him find managed care for them? Does your husband indicate that we wants to come home except that his parent's health prevents that?

Within the last 6 months, I've realized that I cannot leave my Mom in managed care for even a week. In June, it was abscessed teeth. In September it was sepsis. It isn't the managed care's fault. My Mom is obstinate and will refuse their help and insist that she has already done something when she hasn't.

If your husband truly wants out of his situation, he needs your help to get out. Use his guidance to find out what help he needs to get out of the situation. Go visit him and see what the situation is like.

On the other hand, if he is grumbling, but likes the "feeling needed" so he doesn't want to go forward and make a life with you, I'd go to counselling, just you, to determine what your next steps are.

If one or both of his parents pass, he will not be the same person that you married anyway.

((HUGS))

P.S. Since his Dad is a narcissist and his mom is very passive, don't bother trying to talk to them about your husband unless his Dad has a very deep respect for you. Even then, the only one who can get his Dad to change his mind, is your husband, himself....and your husband might be too tired to fight....which is just where his Dad wants him to be.
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