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Long story short: My mother allowed my father to molest me for many years. He died in January. She is now in assisted living. My life has been hellish b.c. of both of them. She failed to protect me, and admitted at one point that she felt helpless. Then she went back to denying it ever happened.
She basically gaslighted me throughout my childhood and forced me to swallow her Catholicism lock stock and barrel. She claims that my father was nice to everyone but her, and told me recently she should not have married him. She lies to herself and to me. My older brother put her in the living situation, and she has been declared cognitively impaired. She denies that she is - I myself am unsure, although she thought I was my cousin when I went to see her - and is petitioning with her lawyer to get out of the situation. The times I was able to see her she seemed mostly sharp, although she also lies and continues to deny reality. She has always been narcissistic, and had an untreated hoarding disorder. She was also, for many years, a severe alcoholic.
I feel guilty when I don't see her, pure and simple. She is 89 and after I do see her I feel depressed and even suicidal. If I don't go I feel guilty. There is alot more to the story, but it's too long to tell. My father was her entire life, and after he died she cracked up and drove to a neighboring state and was admitted to a hospital. He was definitely not a great guy, and I was and am the black sheep, telling the truth. My two brothers do not talk to me as a I result, and nobody had my back. I myself am now disabled.
I'm angry I go through this, and angry that I continue to feel guilty when she seemed to have zero guilt. I know her life was as hellish as mine in some ways, but she did a lot of things to me that were cruel. Including kicking me out of the family home when I tried to tell my brother to keep his kids away from grandpa (my dad). She said some horrific things to me as well. She maintained the family lie and pretended we were a happy normal family. I continue to suffer from things that happened.
Am I bad evil terrible daughter if I don't want to go see her? My closest friend is a priest who seems to think that I should see her b.c. she is one of the needy, and I feel guilty for not feeling the same. He is not an unreasonable person, but doesnt understand incest or the toxic ramifications of abuse or family systems. His family loved him. Mine treated me like dirt.

It is time to seek out a GOOD in person COGNITIVE therapist (no talk therapy; you've talked about childhood long enough at this point). You need a way out of habitual thinking and reacting; a cognitive therapist will help you find that way. Mental health situations require expert help. I am wishing you the very best moving forward. This is your one and only life. You are a grownup now, and must take in hand responsibility for making this, your one and only life, a quality life for yourself. I wish you the best. Get help for yourself from someone qualified and well-training in working with those who lived through childhood abuse and trauma.
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You aren't under any obligation to visit your mother with such a high cost to yourself and your own mental health. On the notion of the priest and others saying, "You have to visit her. She's your MOTHER. (Honor thy father and mother), I would also suggest Ephesian's 6:4 "And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord." IOW, parents have to earn that honor.

Your friend the priest doesn't understand, or doesn't choose to understand, the abusive family dynamics you had.

Sadly, some of us here understand them all-too-well! :( Take care of yourself. I found a bit of wisdom in another post I read on this site some time ago: "You must not set yourself on fire in order to keep another person warm." Or, as they tell you at the start of every flight, put your own mask on first before you help children or others,

If you still feel a need to help the needy/lonely/elderly/unwell, you could either talk to a senior organization in your area and offer to visit someone who is on their own and may need help or companionship. Or you could go to any (recommend a different one than your mother is in), and ask to visit someone who "never" has visitors.
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WISH I COULD THANK EVERYONE IN PERSON FOR THESE ANSWERS WHICH LITERALLY FELT LIKE THE LOVE AND CARE I WAS MISSING MY WHOLE LIFE. THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. AND YES TO ANSWER ONE PERSON I FILED A POLICE REPORT ON MY FATHER WHICH ENDED UP DOING NOTHING. I DID WHAT I COULD. THANK YOU ALL. I AM CUTTING OFF CONTACT WITH MY MOTHER, LOOKING FOR A SECULAR THERAPIST, AND INFORMING MY FRIEND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MY MOM ANYMORE.
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waytomisery Sep 26, 2025
Good for you . These actions are your path for healing . You matter and deserve understanding and peace .
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Feeling suicidal after visiting her is enough for you to not go ever again. Do you have absolutely no one who believes you about the abuse? Finding a therapist who will believe you about the abuse and help you work through these feelings of guilt on not wanting to visit your mother would be helpful. You must take care of yourself and seeing your mother is not doing that. She never helped you and seeing her now will not help you and is in fact hurting you. You have no obligation to her. And from what you describe I think she does have dementia, so there will never be any reasoning with her, maybe never was. She is gone from your life.
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suajw72222 Sep 26, 2025
thank you!!
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No. Don’t see her. It’s too hard on your mental health. Don’t discuss your decision with your friend, the priest, either.

I suggest that you continue to post here so that you can be supported. It would be helpful for you to see a counsellor as well so that you can release any feelings of guilt.
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No. Do not see her. Your brothers are aware as to why.
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Are you in therapy? That's where you need to be right now to work this out.
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You have too much resentment to go visit her and rightfully so, don't see any of them. You've been very open about your abuse and you gained knowledge from it as you tried to help the kids. I remember looking for signs of weird behavior,of abuse in my brother's daughter. Sick people that have stolen someone's innocence are to be confronted. Didn't you report your father to someone at the time? Now he can not hurt anyone else and this should be enough for you to move forward. Use your intuition, the one you acquired, to help children in distress. See something, say something! Your mother has either a broken mind or an intentional forgetfulness which is always going to affect the way you feel. You're not the little girl anymore, you were robbed of that and you can't get the affection you should have had from Mom. Don't hang in there for her,free yourself.
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To answer your question, no, you are not a bad evil terrible daughter if you don't want to go see her. Without question, you are not.

I know what it feels like to tell the truth to family members, trying to keep kids away from that one person in the family who does despicable things, feeling like the black sheep, the rest of the family treating you poorly because of it, and no one having your back. And mom pretending to have a happy, normal family.

I feel for you, but also I want you to know you did the right thing in speaking up and trying to protect others.

I have a feeling that the majority of the fine folks here on the forum will agree that you are not at all expected to see your mom. She is in assisted living and being cared for, and you have no responsibility towards her in that regard.

Please take care.
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Your priest friend is no doubt trying to help, but the person he's helping isn't you. With friends like that, you don't need enemies. Pose the question to him: If one of the "needy" held HIS feet to the fires of hell, would he still want to help that "needy" person? Though his feet are still burned and blistered from the hellfire he was forced to endure? That's you, my dear.

You realize now that you're out of the thick of that dysfunctional family that you have been mistreated by many. You owe them nothing - not the illusion of a happy family, not one more family hatefest aimed toward you, not one more morsel of protection for those who hurt you. Nothing. Nada. They are evil, have been evil, and will continue to remain evil. (Unless your priest friend can conduct a successful exorcism, which is doubtful.)

It doesn't take much more than you describe to know that mom is cognitively impaired and you should stop hoping otherwise. You don't need her approval anymore. You don't need to forgive her or help her or excuse her or ever set eyes upon her person again.

What you DO need to do is take care of yourself. You have always deserved better, and it's up to you - not religion, not the priest or the church - to provide that for yourself. You can do it. You've been strong enough to get through all the misery that was heaped on you, and you can keep doing that, hopefully with the help of a good and kind therapist from now on. I wish you luck and happiness as you move forward.
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Someone here shared this thought in the forum when I first started reading and it has stuck with me for years.

Consider the possibility that what you feel is NOT Guilt. But instead, GRIEF.

Guilt is what is felt when you feel remorse for doing something you know is wrong. The feeling that you deserve to be blamed for offenses you committed.

Grief is feeling sorrow, often in relation to someone's death, but it's not limited to that event. My mother and I talk about the fact that we both grieved my dad long before he died, because he was no longer the person I remembered as my father, no longer the person she equated with her husband. People can grieve the fact that they did not have the parent(s) they deserved. People can grieve the fact that they did not have the relationship they wanted with someone.

Unless there is a huge part of the story I'm missing, it doesn't sound to me like you have done anything wrong. It sounds more likely that your mother has been manipulating you for your entire life and it makes you feel implied guilt because she has had years to get in your head and make you feel responsible for her life.

Not to put too fine of a point on it- your very first sentence is enough to tell me all I need to know. Your mother has never protected you or done her job as a mother. It is not your responsibility to fix her life or make things easier for her.

Frankly, your comment that you visit and often feel depressed and suicidal - that to me screams to stay away. She is using your "guilt" to make you feel bad. You've done nothing to deserve guilt.

As lealonnie said, I think your time would be better served finding a therapist who can help you work through your own feelings over everything that has happened to you. And less time running to see your mother.

People in your situation frequently go no contact to protect their own peace, and I think that may be advisable.
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With all due respect your best friend isn’t much of a friend when they put idealized niceties above your real life experience. You don’t have to get rid of the friend but do recognize that everyone has biases and limitations and you can make your own decisions.

If you are still religious let me suggest that “honor thy parents” doesn’t mean “do whatever they want”. You can, if it works for you, respect and sympathize with your mother’s position as a miserable and probably abused woman without visiting. If you believe the Lord wants all his children loved and protected why wouldn’t he want that for you? You’re the one who can best care for and look after yourself, so please do so. She had her whole life to form loving connections and did quite the opposite. Honor her decision to be lonely and miserable and take care of yourself.
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You are not a bad terrible person. In fact, I think you are a very good person. You tried to protect your nieces from the abuse you suffered, even though you were punished for it and you probably knew you would be. What your family did and is doing to you is wrong. Staying away from them is self preservation, not disloyalty. You need to protect God’s gifts of your life and your mental health.

I echo the commenter urging you to find a non religious therapist to work with. Not that I don’t value the clergy—I am a Christian. But some people just aren’t equipped to deal with situations like this. We all have different gifts. Your friend, while he may be a wonderful person, doesn’t have this particular gift.

You deserve peace and happiness, not abuse. I hope you find both.
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Please go see a non secular therapist to help you deal properly with all of this, in a healthy way with no guilt. You were the victim. A priest is not the person to speak with, my friend.

Best of luck to you.
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cwillie Sep 26, 2025
I'm pretty sure you meant to write secular (non religious)
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