I have tried almost ever approach imaginable with providing the Political Facts from numerous reliable sources, but they keep referring to either Fox News or News Max for their referencing.
They have definitely been brain washed with their Evangelistic beliefs which Fox News/New Max has reinforced by giving them more reasons to confirm that they could NOT be wrong!
I was hopping that the relationship between Trump & Putin of more than friendship with the current events of Putin's invasion of Ukraine where their destroying & killing any opposition, that the evidence would give them reason to question their believe that Trump is NOT the anointed one. I'm not getting through. Any suggestions?
For me this would be a complete waste of time and energy.
I have a couple friends who are anti vaxxers, anti maskers (we still have mask and vaccine passport mandates where I live). I talk with them about everything but their views on this topic.
I don’t mind difference of opinion on politics. But people who are so loyal to Trump just will not let it go? Nope, not even gonna try to reason with them.
You can't
You will RARELY change a persons mind about
Politics
Religion
And if you think carefully many personal opinions revolve around one or bot of these things. (Unfortunately they are intertwined regarding some topics)
Choose a less controversial topic like Cheddar cheese with apple pie or Ice cream.
It is likely here to create dissension. I think that failed. Still.............................. would like to see it closed to comment or moved to discussion where it soon enough will bury itself.
How about WHY to reason? You can't just leave it alone?
To those of you who took advantage of this troll's question and took a shot at others (Far Right) whose political opinion you consider wrong, then shame on you. You're just as bad as the troll.
In this AgingCare forum, we (should) put politics aside. Go somewhere else if you want to argue and insult others over politics.
Please stop bringing up AND COMMENTING on politics.
I see no justification for raising this controversial issue and linking it to the Ukrainian invasion, other than for provocation.
I hope the Admins either close this thread or delete it. It serves no positive purpose.
Best approach is to not discuss religion or politics with others.
And politely tell them that when they discuss it with you!
We all have a right to our opinions.
You don't. There is no way to reason with these people. They do not want to hear or see facts or truths. Don't try. They are not worth falling on your sword for because their minds will never be changed.
It is what it is.
If they are your relatives and you're around them, do not allow the conversation to get anywhere near political. Shut it down straight away. If you can't then walk away. Whatever you do, never engage them and never allow yourself to be led into a discussion that is in any way controversial or political. If the only topic left to discuss is the weather then so be it. This often happens with these kinds of people.
I have a co-worker who think's Trump won the election, has almost certainly had Covid twice, but won't get tested because Covid isn't real.
If this isn't just trolling, well, you'll never convince them.
Probably not, unfortunately. My suggestion is to bring your political nonsense to another platform where you can argue this gibberish to your hearts content cuz this is not the place to do it.
Rreporting my comment in an effort to have this thread removed for inappropriate content.
But, beyond that, why WOULD you feel you need to reason with someone who has diametrically opposite views? I personally feel that these issues should be avoided in caregiving situations as well as other situations. There's no way that far right or far left for that matter believers are going to change their views. So why bother? What do you expect or hope to prove?
We are all good decent people on this Forum, and have nothing to fear from someone who would do that, I think. We will remain close and do together what we do.
And we will handle our own business at our own ballot box, and when we "meet our makers" (or not, hee hee). We have had better trolls in our times than THIS one!
I agree with Alva Deer that there’s really no good reason to try to sway someone’s political views. there’s already so much discord in our world. I have many friends and family who disagree with my views on religion and politics, but I love them heartily and have good relationships with them. If they say things I disagree with I can choose whether or not to engage. If I am in a crappy, confrontational mood I can choose to redirect the conversation. If I am in a chill, respectful mood, I might choose to engage and have a grownup discussion.
I recently started listening to a Christian podcast that repeatedly states that “No political party will be praised.” I like that.
People are going to believe what they want. Have you ever argued with a devout atheist or anti-Christian? A big pro-lifer or pro-choicer? Antivaxxer vs Fauci supporter?
It's always the same. All it does is create hard feelings.
Do you not believe we all have a right to our own opinion, our own politics?
Do you not think that by arguing with someone you actually push that person farther and farther into his or her own corner?
Do you not think that this argument actually leads us to dislike one another when probably we are good people who would go out of our way to help a neighbor in need?
How about "You and I may disagree about a whole lot of things, but I love you anyway" or "I am afraid that if I tell you what I believe you won't love me, so what about we talk about subjects we both love".
If this person is too disturbing for you to be around the simple answer is "don't be around them". If not, just live and let live. We all have our own friends, our own experiences of life; for me at 80 it is live-and-let-live, keep my blood pressure on an even keel, and hope that my own opinions aren't too annoying. I am hoping that right now!
I wish you the best.