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Keep YOURSELF vaccinated and mask in her presence, maintain social distancing from her. There is very little else you can do. We cannot change others; we can only protect ourselves.
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Well let's see. My 70-something year old cousin is 'fully vaccinated' and hasn't left the house for the past 18 months, pretty much, and is living in fear inside of her apartment. She did, however, go to church a few times when it was deemed 'safe' to do so, after she became 'fully vaccinated', of course. She then contracted The Virus, after being 'fully vaccinated' and wondered how such a thing could be possible? She insisted the 'vaccinations' would prevent her from getting The Virus but lo & behold, she was wrong!

She lived thru The Virus even though she was Fully Vaccinated, but has now been told by the visiting nurse to wear TWO MASKS when going out, if she does go out again, b/c it's Dangerous Out There, even for those who are Fully Vaccinated and have Recovered from The Virus and have Natural Immunity and Antibodies Built Up.

So she's staying in her house again for God-knows-how-long and watching church services on TV.


Your daughter is not 'protecting you' by getting Fully Vaccinated b/c she too can contract The Virus afterward. You've been Fully Vaccinated so if you do get The Virus, chances are, your case will be less serious than it would be if you weren't.

See your daughter and live your life. Let your daughter know you love her and stop allowing a stupid 'vaccine' which is not even really a 'vaccine' at all to come between your and the daughter you love. Just b/c the MSM and the news channels are telling you to treat the Unvaccinated as Lepers does not mean you should. Think about the common sense of such a thing!

Life is short. Don't let anger and fear stop you from living what's left of it.
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Tynagh Sep 2021
Ummm. The unvaccinated are primarily those who are now filling hospitals to near capacity (and over capacity in some cases). The vaccine is far from "stupid"; it's a life-saving commodity. The intention of vaccination is to remediate COVID symptoms. In short, you may still get sick but you are far less likely to be intubated and die.
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Did you know that the unvaccinated that are being hospitalized and dying include those that have been vaccinated with the 1st shot.

I think attacking people, belittling them, calling them names and other crummy behavior is exactly what is intended by the media and their opinonated reporting.

If we judge others and separate because of this, they win.

Science is proving that those infected by contact have a better immunity to any variants, this information is available on the CDC and NIH websites.

It should be a personal decision and people should not be shamed into violating their own bodies or forced into accepting an injection that has NOT been proven to be safe or effective.

Do the research on why Pfizer's CEO had a fit that Biden passed a law that there could be no patent on the vaccine.

We are being lied to and mislead by the big 6 and we need to stop Lettings them separate us from our loved ones based on their reality.

If you believe that the vaccine is an effective, proven protection then why worry about the unvaccinated? Could it be you aren't sure you are protected? Think about this people!
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I wonder how many people bother to research HOW the COVID vaccines actually work. Do your research and decide for yourself. If you decide to educate yourself, be sure to research "spike protein" and "mRNA" as those are essential components of the COVID vaccines.

Nobody should be forced to undergo any medical procedure against their will.
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Isthisrealyreal Sep 2021
Especially research what is really in the vaccines and the safety data sheets on those "ingredients".
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I haven't had the vaccine. My doctor recommended that I not have it because of other health issues. A good friend's wife was fully vaccinated. She caught the Delta variant and died within 48 hours. her husband also fully vaccinated got the virus and was hospitalized. There have been several cases in my area with vaccinated persons getting the virus.

My husband and one son both got Covid during the winter. they both have long haul syndrome. I'm not sure what one is supposed to, but I wouldn't risk upsetting my daughter over a vaccine that may or may not work.
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Heart2Heart Sep 2021
Bridges... May I ask what State you're in? Thank you.
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You set ground rules.
She does not enter your house.
You do not enter her house.
If you are someplace together you wear your mask and ask her to do the same.
If you are invited to a gathering choose to be outdoors. If it has to be indoors either wear a mask or choose not to attend.
Your daughter is no alone there are many people that for one reason or another choose not to be vaccinated. And there are many people that choose to get the vaccination. I assume that no one but me has been vaccinated so I always wear a mask, I wash my hands often, I use a hand sanitizer when washing is not possible. My concern is protecting myself, what others choose to do is their business.
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Does every question that mentions the pandemic have to deteriorate to a battleground? NONE of this is helping the OP. Stick to helpful comments or SHUT UP!

(yes, I'm reporting myself, hopefully this thread will be shut down like all the others)
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Akitalady Sep 2021
It sounds like you can't stand letting others' voice their opinion. I suggest you leave the thread, and go rant in an anti-vax group.
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Unfortunately posts like yours inevitably attract comments from the faith not fear crowd 🤨
A lot depends on your previous relationship dynamic and how often you actually spend time together but on the whole I think there is no benefit to keep bringing this up, she's more likely to dig in than capitulate. I certainly wouldn't burn any bridges over this but I wouldn't back down from reasonable precautions either - if unvaxxed daughter and her whole unvaxxed family are spending every spare moment among crowds of like minded people I'd not want any prolonged, close, indoor contact with them either. If, on the other hand, other than not being vaccinated your daughter is reasonably cautious/courteous then I would not hesitate to get together (with whatever precautions seem reasonable for your area).
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It's unfortunate that the world has become so divided on this issue. Are we now a world where you are right cause you had the vaccine and wrong cause you did not? Or vice versa.

I gave in and got the vaccine. I wasn't going to cause I too have fears of what the vaccine could possibly do to me in the future. But I eventually weighed the pros and cons of what the vaccine could possibly do to me down the road and what covid could do to me immediately. In the end it was no contest. But having said this, I respect everyone's decision to do what they think is right. It's now a personal decision on my part whether I want to hang out with anti vaxer's. It's a personal decision whether they want to hang out with me as well. I hope it never comes down to people being forced to do something they don't want to do. I guess time will tell.

In the meantime as CWillie said. Let's try to be civil about it all.
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rovana Sep 2021
Well, we are forced to do stuff all the time, like it or not. Should we allow everyone to decide how they are going to drive a car they own? Everyone just does whatever, and we hope for the best?
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OP - if you want to protect yourself and you believe in the vaccines, and already got vaccinated, then you're already protected. If you want to be sure, then get the 3rd booster shot, or the 4th, etc. The more the better, right. All that miracle drug...

It is silly to say someone has to inject herself with chemical so you can be protected. Makes no sense. Like saying you need to eat/drink because I'm hungry/thirsty.
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rovana Sep 2021
Sorry, please keep in mind that there are people who cannot receive vaccination, like little kids. I believe a moral person does what they can to slow the spread of this disease and protect others.
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