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My niece is the primary caregiver for her 89 year old mother with severe dementia. It might be the time to put her on Hospice but my niece is reluctant to as when she was an in home caregiver, some of her patients were put on Hospice and died shortly thereafter. Please clarify.

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With hospice, they will bring meds but you can choose if/when to give them. I didn’t think mom would ever need them and was reluctant to give them but as she declined and her body began the process of shutting down various functions, I was glad they were there. I do believe she was not in pain at her death and was neither anxious nor afraid. It allowed her to focus on what she needed rather than be tormented by physical and mental anguish.
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People often overlook the purpose Hospice. When someone is put on Hospice it is BECAUSE they are in End of Life. If they qualify for Hospice, it is because a medical professional firmly believes they have 6 months or less to live from some terminal illness or potentially age.

That is not to say that some people don't live longer than 6 months or even come off of Hospice.

But the vast majority of people that are moved to Hospice are actually going to die soon and likely sooner than later.

That is in no way intended to be callous. It is simply a fact of life. The purpose of Hospice is end of life comfort care.

Hospice doesn't hasten death. Death is already on the radar if a person goes on Hospice. When people are afraid that Hospice causes death - its often because they have not come to terms with the fact that their loved one is actively dying already.

My experience with hospice (4 times now) has only ever been one of them providing comfort care for the loved one - and comfort for the family.
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I think one of the reasons many die very soon after going on Hospice is .... The family waited longer than they should have.
The care and help that you get from the Hospice Nurse, CNA, Social Worker and the rest of the Team is immeasurable.

Make a deal with her.
Have her "try" Hospice for 2 weeks. If she does not see the benefit that Hospice can bring she can elect to take mom off Hospice and she can return to her previous Care Team.
Honestly if mom dies during that 2 week "trial" she probably would have died during that time anyway.
Hospice does not "kill" people. If that were their goal they failed miserably with my Husband as he was on Hospice for almost 2 years. (Dementia, Alzheimer's and probably Vascular)
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Grandma1954 Mar 10, 2025
oops just rereading this..he was on Hospice almost 3 years
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One is not eligible for hospice unless their doctor certifies that they have a life expectancy of 6 months or less. And studies have shown that putting someone under hospice care can greatly improve their quality of life at the end. I strongly agree that people wait too long to put their loved ones under hospice care, usually because of that perception. Suggest to your niece that she have her mom's doctor put in a hospice consult, so she (the niece) can talk with them to find out what benefits the service would have for her mom.
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The best thing to do is discuss the situation with a Doctor .
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In a way it does hasten death. No life giving medications are given. No feeding tubes. Just comfort meds for pain and anxiety. You let nature take its course.

My Mom was 89 when she passed. She was in LTC and in her final stage of Denentia. I went to visit and the Nurse said Dr wanted to do a swallow test on Mom. By this time Mom had closed her eyes and would not get out of bed. TG I was a member of AC and knew the signs of the body shutting down. I said no, bring hospice in. Mom was gone in 6 days. I did not want her poked and prodded.
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Well you can tell your niece if that is the case, then why did my late husband live 22 months under hospices care until he died?
As already said one of the mistakes people make is waiting too late to put their loved ones under hospice care.
Plus you can remind your niece that her mom is dying anyway as NO ONE as of yet has survived the horrific disease of dementia.
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My mom was on hospice for dementia for about a year. Her final end actually followed a bout of Covid, a minor bout but with other health issues, and no will to live longer, it was enough. The angels from hospice were there, caring for her to the end in the kindest way possible. In no way did they hasten her ending, but made her last year *much* better for her, and everyone else.

For dementia, they provided medications that helped quell the hallucinations and chase the fears away. They visited, and provided a minister, and a music therapist, if she wished. They were endlessly patient. They also kept me well informed of her condition and status (I, and other family members, scheduled our visits and theirs around each other so she had someone visiting almost every day).

When my mother needed to move from assisted living into memory care, they immediately provided an adjustable hospital bed for the room, so I didn’t have to try to hunt for one and figure put how to move it in.

Honestly, out of a lot of misery in my mother’s last few years (also my own, as she got nasty with me being her caregiver - something you’ll read about often here), the hospice people were one of the brightest and best things there could have been.
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People wait too long to put their loved ones in hospice. It happens every day.

And put it this way— her mother is going to die whether she is placed in hospice or not.
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Unfortunately many people are put on Hospice way too late and they DO meet their demise shortly thereafter. For my own mother it was a week and we had to FIGHT her doctor--my brother, myself and my mom herself--to get Hospice.
So her perception is correct.

Now as to Hospice. IF the niece feels strongly as regards this, and her mother isn't requesting it, then she should meet with hospice and say that while her mother may be near the end of her days, she and the family do NOT want overmedicating that may cause any early death. That comfort being the goal it is not the families goal to speed anything along UNLESS there is discomfort and distress.
This SHOULD prevent any over-zealous administration of medications, and cause care in giving medications beyond a need for comfort.

If Aunt isn't in distress, and Niece is greatly disturbed by Hospice, I would not push it. Hospice is for the PATIENT him or herself to request, and hopefully with a comfortable and supportive family. I think I would not, as the relative, push anything here. Leave this to your Aunt, her family, and their MD.

Best wishes.
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MiaMoor Jun 26, 2025
I agree with much of this, except I wouldn't leave this to the niece. The sister (or s-i-l) has dementia and can't advocate for herself. Hopefully, the doctor will speak sense to the niece.
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No need to fear Hospice. The Doctor makes the call about eligibility. It doesn't cost you and makes sure the person is kept comfortable more than anything.

I understand the concern, but Hospice (allegedly) hastening the person's death is a myth. I've known many people who lasted long in Hospice care, and some that didn't.

I was very reluctant to put my husband in Hospice, but looking back, it was the best thing I ever did. I have no regrets whatsoever. Your niece is very fortunate to have her Mom live until 89. That is amazing!
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Your aunt has severe dementia. Her daughter is afraid she'll die why??? I prayed daily for a very long time for God to take my mother out of her misery with advanced dementia. Why would I want the cruelty of that disease to extend her life?? Even with hospice, my mother lasted until she was over 95 years old, the poor soul. Death brought peace to my mother and an end to her tortured life. She's now at perfect peace.
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Bulldog54321 Mar 7, 2025
lord, isn’t this the truth! For her poor mother, death will be a large relief. Her long life and her SUFFERING are over.
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Hospice provides equipment, help, meds, counseling, nurses, doctors and chaplains. It’s free. Why wouldn’t anyone want to avail themselves of this help? My mother was in hospice care for two years. It was a blessing.

Hospice doesn’t kill people. If they’re in hospice care, they’re at the end of life. They’re dying. Hospice helps them to die comfortably.
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My mom was eligible for Hospice services in her nursing home for about 3 years before she died.

My brother, her POA, refused to agree to hospice service at that time.

Three years later, with CHF, pulmonary edema, post stroke, post hip fracture repair and advancing vascular dementia, she fell and broke her wrist

Upon return from the ER, it seemed apparent that she was sinking and I saw no reason for her to be in pain.

Brother came and signed the hospice papers. Mom died two days later.

My point is that if you wait until the very end to engage Hospice, your LO dies soon after. If you engage them when first eligible, it can take months or years.
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