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My mom has been a binge drinker for the past twenty-years. She's been in and out of the hospital for trying to "drink herself to death". Then she sobers up and acts like nothing happened. Sober periods an last months, but since the beginning of the holiday season, she's been on one bender after another - always at home and drinking massive amounts of vodka by herself; until she looses complete control. This week, she took a bunch of sleeping pills as well and ended up in the hospital.


Addiction treatment places just tell us the same thing. They can't do anything until she asks for help. And again, she sobers up and then is "fine" - until the next one. But it's becoming more and more clear that she doesn't want to live anymore.


My dad and brother are with her all the time. They live across the country. My brother is also an addict and tends to mimic my mom's behavior. My dad is completely broken as he gets blamed for everything. My mom abuses him verbally when she's drunk and I worry about him just as much. And my brother ends up in a spiral when she has her episodes too.


I am always the one who has to reach out for help on their behalf; so here I am again - trying to help from 2500 miles away. Needless to say, I'll be looking for my own therapist this week.


Any resources you can give would be helpful. I told my dad to reach out to the suicide prevention hotline too. They are located in Cleveland. My mom was born in 1947. I'll be sending info their way.

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Is your brother interested in treatment?

I would concentrate any efforts on him if he shows an inclination to go to rehab.

Have you attended AlAnon meetings? I think you would find them very useful.

There is a very unhealthy dynamic at work in your family. You seem have to broken free but you have no power to control the behaviors of the others. It must be heartbreaking to witness this.
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RockieK Jan 2021
We have done it all. Rehab, counseling, etc.

My brother is in recovery from heroin. He's been clean for over three years. If/when he falls apart, he does drink. I don't think he's gone to therapy in a while due to health insurance loss (COVID lay offs). He "hates" my mom, but has the gene. I had to beg him last night to call the suicide hotline to find some help for him and my dad. I swear, she wants to take them with her.

It's a mess. And YES, their dynamic is completely unhealthy! You nailed it. THANK YOU. It's exhausting to tell them to find professional help for themselves. I feel like it's all I can do from where I'm at. I'm scared to call my mom tomorrow for our weekly calls. I don't know what to say.
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My brother's ex is in care, and in locked facility ALF because of his severe alcoholism. The only way to stop him is to keep him locked up. So there is that choice, but likely not until she is diagnosed with dementia or alcohol induced encephalopthy. I caution you: at this point she must be very carefully withdrawn with the help of medication or withdrawal could kill her.
I agree that if she does not want to live there is at this point little you can do about either that fact or about her "drinking herself to death". That may be her choice. It is difficult for us to "get" but life becomes too difficult for people at some point.
Again, there is little you can do about this but placement when she is no longer safe and has no longer the mental capacity for her own decisions. I very much doubt that anti depressants will work; they certainly did ZERO for my bro's ex.
Let her know you will assist her if she decides to change. Otherwise you are where you have been for 25 years. Get on with your own life.
I definitely recommend Al-Anon for your own support and understanding. They and their members are wonderful. And you will learn about support options.
My partner's Mom made this choice. Living in the desert in a lovely home in the Carefree area, she created a little drip pond and watched the desert wildlife out her window, slowly drinking herself to death. She took out a reverse mortgage and had the support of housekeepers, shoppers, and etc. She was lucky to die in her own bed with her own vodka bottle nearby. To be frank, for some, it's an option. I shock people when I say that, but I do believe it.
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RockieK Jan 2021
Thank you for your thoughtful answer. These are the lines that I've been thinking along. It's her choice and nothing will change her mind. Seems like the pivot would be to have my dad find help for himself.

We've already had her in treatment, done the Al-Anon support and all of that. She's not diagnosed with anything, but has a hell of a rap sheet for being in the hospital for drinking herself incapacitated.

Thank you, again, for your story. It means a lot.
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This website is for caregivers, mostly to the elderly.

Try searching for a site that deals with addiction, alcoholism or suicide prevention.

I am sorry you are having a hard time with this. It is true, addicts cannot be helped until they are ready to help themselves. Often unless they reach out, death results.

Alanon is a great suggestion. They offer online support meetings.
https://al-anon.org/al-anon-meetings/electronic-meetings/
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RockieK Jan 2021
I came here out of desperation. We have done Al-Anon, she's been to treatment, etc, etc, etc, etc. The whole occasional "binge" drinking has given us the result of a "shrug" from most of those places because when she's not drunk, she's totally "normal" (read: great actress). I know that nothing will happen unless she wants to be helped.

BUT - This is no longer just "alcoholism". She's straight up a danger to herself and she will probably kill herself. I don't want to have regrets of not trying everything possible to find professional opinions in what my dad (mostly) can do. Yes, she is elderly.
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Rockie, have you allowed yourself to tell your mother what you actually feel? That her behavior scares you and makes you terribly angry at her? That she is destroying YOUR life as well as hers?

And that you won't be calling any longer, because you are done with her if she won't stop bingeing?
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Can you call 911 and tell them what you told us? That you think your mother is a danger to herself? That’s the only way you can get her into a hospital is if you say she is a danger to herself or someone else. We have a mental facility which is attached to our hospital specifically for that reason.

Your mother is very young, she could easily live another 20 years. Try 911 and if that doesn’t work, back off and lead your own life. You did all that you could do. You can’t help someone who won’t help themselves. I had to repeat that mantra daily when my mother was still alive.
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