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Last night, my aunt who I care for, fell down when I went out. She hasn't fallen in over a year and she is usually very good about it. I found her after she fell about 8 hours later when I came home from work. She hasn't been able to stand on her own but she can walk with a walker. (Before she walked just fine without any type of assistance) she does need help standing sometimes. She also is speaking slower than normal.


She says she isn't in any pain that's new to her, she still is 100% there mentally and she even acknowledged that she is speaking a little slower than normal.


I'm afraid she might have had a minor stroke or something. She also doesn't want to go to the doctors but I will be trying to convince her later if she feels better with walking.

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Catchness, any update for us?
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Catchess5 Nov 2021
I hope everyone sees this for an update. Sorry I never replied and thanks for all the concern. I did bring her to the ER and the doctor there said she had a very mild stroke. She is currently in a temporary nursing home to do physical therapy. They said she should be almost as good as she was before the accident.
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At 86, my mother was in pretty good physical shape when she tripped over her own left foot and fell walking through the house. I saw the fall. She went to her knees and then onto her left side. I called the EMTs because, unlike Mom's previous falls (due to spinal stenosis she had several over the years), she complained her left knee was painful. The EMTs got Mom up and into a chair and evaluated her, telling me she was only bruised and could not have a fracture because her pulse and blood pressure were too good. It was near supper time, Mom was tired and didn't want a trip to the ER, so I relented and she walked using her walker to her bedroom, where the EMTs took her blood pressure again. The next morning, Mom was sore and found walking, even with the walker, painful so she decided to stay in her lift recliner that day and we used incontinent panties so she didn't even need to step over to the bedside commode I had set up. When the pain on walking continued and I saw the purple/black bruise on the back of her knee, we went to the doctor and discovered the fall had broken her knee replacement prosthetic loose from the bone and fractured the lower end of the upper leg bone where it was attached. It would take surgery to repair and Mom was not a good candidate for the surgery. After allowing some time for the bone to heal, Mom had PT and was walking again, although she required a walker for the remainder of her life.

The thing is, I had her evaluated by EMTs. I saw this fall and _knew_ it wasn't as bad as other falls I have witnessed my mother take and not be seriously injured. I was most concerned about injuries to the rotor cuff and possibly broken wrist bones, injuries she had suffered in a previous fall on concrete 20 years previously and on a more recent fall earlier in the year. The senior EMT assured me she was only bruised. But she had a "hidden" fracture that could have caused more problems.

Your mother needs to be evaluated by a doctor, even if you need to use a little manipulation to make it happen. If your mother is like mine and won't go for her own well being, you might try the "I would feel so guilty if anything happened and I hadn't taken you to the doctor.." line. Mothers will do things for their daughters they won't do for themselves.
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Catchess5: Imho, she requires an evaluation by her physician.
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She should deffiently be checked out now by a Dr.
She could have another stroke and she could have a hair line fracture in her Hip or Pelvis like my sister that fell and didn't want to go to the Dr then she fell again a few months later and want able to get up, stand or walk with a walker so an ambulance had to take her to the Hospital and she had multiple fractures in her Pelvis.
When you have a broken hip, you can be bleeding internally.
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She might be at a point where she needs an aide to be there when you are not there. Get connected with a local social worker and senior networks who can advise you on what options are available. Medicare may pay for a part-time aide. Falls can be very harmful for older people. And yes, it's possible that she had a stroke. The testing and rehab after a stroke can be quite a drain on quality of life. Make sure that you know what her wishes are for end of life medical decisions. Does she have a living will? All the best to you both!
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It's many days passed already but she needed/needs to be seen by a doctor. Please let us know the outcome.
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Did you take her to the ER?
It may have been a stroke.
She is probably quite dehydrated after being 8 hours with no food or water.
If you are caring for her a trip to the ER would be a non negotiable trip
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Take her to the doctor for a physical. Falling can "just be a misstep" but not being able to get up for 8 hours is concerning.
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I’m an EMT. Get her to doctor ASAP. You don’t know the cause of the fall nor do you know why her speech is slower. Could be dehydration, head injury, stroke, etc. She needs to be checked out. Since she has a history of falls, she should no longer be left alone for her own safety. Check with your local free area Agency on Aging for resources.
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Midkid58 Nov 2021
Thanks. I agree. YB is pretty cocky about his skills, and I DO appreciate he has taken the burden of mom's care on himself--but he really needs to see the light.
I reached out to my OTHER brother, who has FPOA and he is going to have a 'chat' with YB about this very thing. I can talk myself blue in the face and they do not hear me.

YB talked mom into believing the falls were due to low blood sugar, and they may well be, but until a DR. weighs in on this--I'm not satisfied. I think I've posted enough about the screwed up dynamics in my family that anyone could pick up that 'I' have zero say in mom's care--all this fuss b/c YB is SO stubborn!
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My mom has starting falling (she calls it slumping, but the end result is she's blacking out and waking up on the floor).

Personally, I think she needs to be evaluated every time she falls, as she does 'faint' and is unconscious for some length of time with each fall. And she seems much more addled afterwards for several days.

She lives with YB and he is an EMT, so somewhat qualified to assess her, but I can see how easily he could miss a fracture or brain bleed. He doesn't have x-ray vision, for crying out loud.

I can't force her to do ANYTHING, so I simply state my concerns and walk away. One of these days she WILL break something and that will start a whole new life for her. Yes, I GET that she doesn't want to go to the Dr or the ER---but she did ask me to ask my Dr. SIL to 'run by after work' and look her over. I said that was a hard NO! as he is crazy overworked as it is. And he would send her to the ER, so I said "cut the middle man, just go!".

Her long time doctor just died of ALS, very sad, but she has made no moves to get a new dr and she needs to. YS did a lot of research and found her a geriatrician close by her house who would do 'pop in' visits--and YB told her he didn't want a new dr. So she is dr-less at the moment. AND has a ton of health issues.

I know that her deep down fear is that if she falls and really hurts herself, she will go to the hospital and never come home again---if she ever becomes wheelchair bound she cannot live at home any longer.
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MaddieMae Oct 2021
You have posted before about your mother’s fainting spells and yb’s reluctance to take her to a doctor. As an EMT he is trained to make an assessment, but is NOT trained to make a diagnosis. An assessment tells the EMT if there is a problem. Blackouts are a SERIOUS problem and his training and licensing protocols and standards have taught him that altered mental status requires a higher level of care than he can provide. Your mother is most likely scared and does not want to face a medical challenge. Please get your mother to a doctor ASAP. You can take her to Immediate care right now without an appointment. Your mother NEEDS medical attention and it is past time you stood up to your family. I am sorry to be so blunt, but I am seriously concerned for the welfare of your mother. If you cannot get yb or mother to cooperate, next time she blacks out call 911 and explain the situation to to EMS. Tell EMS you brother is an EMT, but since he closely related to the patient you would like an independent diagnosis of your mother. You need to protect your mother.
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Be sure to have her checked for a UTI.
And other causes for the fall.
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My DH Aunt broke her ankle and can't tell you how. (slight Dementia) Said she was walking and it just broke. She has had arthritis for years.

My GF fell last year. Still having problem with one leg...she broke a hip. Just had surgery.

Slow speech is sign of a stroke, could be the reason for her fall.
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An older lady of my acquaintance fell in her apartment and lay there for 3 days. When the police broke in (her neighbors grew suspicious that her newspapers were piling up) she didn't want to go to the hospital, didn't want an ambulance, no fuss please.

She finally said "well can't I just take a cab to Lenox Hill Hospital?". The police, neighbors and step-child all replied in unison "NO"!

She spent several days in a Cardiac Care Unit (she'd had a heart attack which likely caused the fall.) She spent 3 months in rehab.

Hope you've gotten her into care.
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The woman is 93 years old, took a fall where she laid on the floor for 8 hours alone, and you're both acknowledging she's 'speaking a little slower than normal.' Why has she not been to the ER yet, that's my question?????

Part of her new care regimen is that she no longer be left alone in her condition w/o a caregiver to look after her while you are at work, that's my suggestion. Needing help getting up and requiring a walker to get around indicates a need for more help than you realize!

Good luck.
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I completely agree with the recommendation to get medical help AND evaluation.   There's no way to determine what internal injuries she may have sustained, or if she "had a minor stroke or something" without medical help, especially since she's speaking more slowly.   To me that seems like a red flag.

Forget about convincing her; call privately if you have to and explain that you don't want her to know you called.   Make up a story:  a neighbor heard something, wondered where you were and if your mother was okay...something reasonably realistic.  

Or ask a neighbor to call for you, explaining your mother doesn't want to go but she absolutely needs to.   The neighbor can ask for a wellness check, saying she heard your aunt cry out, or something realistic that can't be challenged.

PLEASE:   DO IT NOW!

And start researching Life Alert systems.   I researched, contacted suppliers and decided on one which also provided alarm systems.  It was one of the best decisions I made.   Dad had only to bend over and they called to determine if he needed assistance.

After one fall, it didn't occur to me to call them b/c Dad had called me and I called EMS on my way out to  his house, but they called.  I didn't think to check his caller ID before EMS came, and honestly hadn't yet become accustomed to relying on the service.  The service called 14 !! times while we were in the ER.

We also had purchased a lock box for his house.  A friend installed it, directly in the studs next to the door.  We opted for that instead of a lock that hangs over the door b/c a friend told us the lock could be sawed off.   I thought there wouldn't be enough room for that, so I tried and was able to get a saw between the prongs of the lock.   So I bought one that needs to be screwed into the studs next to the door.

If you don't have a medical history for your aunt, I'd prepare one ASAP.  If this happens again, EMS would need to have information included in a medical history, including your contact numbers, Medicare number, medical history and a lot more.
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Please call 911. Don't wait for her to agree. The fall may have been CAUSED by a heart attack, stroke or broken bone.

If she is her right mind, as you say, how was she not able to get help for 8 hours?
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Honestly, I’d call 911. If you weren’t there when she fell, you can’t tell if she had a concussion.
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