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How to convince them to ditch their land line and cable (both expensive) and modernize to internet TV and viop phone saving $3500 a year? All can go thru internet they already have. They're hesitant to learn new things, which I understand, but $3,500 is nothing to sneeze at.

Expecting elders with dementia to learn ANYTHING new, especially in terms of electronic devices, is an exercise in futility. Soon they'll forget how the TV remote works and begin trying to use IT to make a phone call. Pick your battles here, my friend, and this one isn't worth it.
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I'm going to agree with lealonnie - this type of switch could be very confusing for them. And if the internet goes down, do they have cell phones as backup in an emergency situation?

I used to wonder why anyone had land lines. We had switched entirely over to cell phones once our kids were old enough to have them. But it occurred to me that a land line has its uses. No matter where you are, internet outages happen. And if their cell phone gets stuck on wifi calls for some reason (my FIL used to play with his phone and change his settings all the time. I spent hours fixing it back to default every time I visited) and it won't swap over or there is something wrong with the cell service, they don't have a way to call for help.

Modernizing is great - if it is something they can handle. My mom is the tech advisor among her friends. She's almost 80 and incredibly savvy. She uses all kinds of streaming services avidly.

But there is also something to be said for leaving things alone or sharing/overlapping with older technologies.

The land line itself shouldn't be too expensive. Do they watch a lot of tv? Or just have it on in the background. If it's just local tv you could cancel cable and just get a really good antenna. There are a number of pretty good channels that way, including MeTV, which shows mostly older television shows anyway.
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I don't know the type of phone that is but.....all my life I've used antenna for the TV. There's plenty of stations these days. A good one is a flat oblong resembling a Ipad, those things with ears and dials are junk. You can find one at thrift store for about $10. My phone ($50) is a cell that uses Tracphone as a provider, unlimited talk & text with 5GB for about $35 monthly. Now, I'm signed up with Xfinity
Now wifi pass for $10 monthly which is endless use, I can use for hours and hours for the Internet. If you get a cell phone,go into settings and lock the outside buttons so they don't mute it. Typical for elderly to mess with the controls. So, TV has good programs and phone & Internet is under $50 per month. There's always DVD player and you can buy movies at the thrift store for about $3 each or cheaper at the salvation army store. Have you thought that maybe they are ordering movies on cable and that's why it costs so much? You can put a parental block on the TV so they can't order movies. That's what my mom was doing,fall asleep and order it again and again.
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You’re absolutely right $3,500 a year is a significant saving. You could suggest they start with small steps, like switching to a VoIP phone first, then moving to Internet TV. Showing them how easy and user-friendly it is can help a lot. Sometimes demonstrating it in action makes adopting new systems much easier.
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Cattypatti Oct 14, 2025
I'm 65. I finally cut the cable last year and switched over to streaming. I have all my faculties and have been tech savvy since the '80s. My first job at 21 was behind a computer terminal. That said, when I began streaming TV, it was 6 months of hellish frustration adapting. It took a full year for me to finally feel comfortable with the new technology.

I managed to adapt from a 1960s world all the way up to a 2010s world, but somewhere around age 50, my window of easily learning fresh new things starting closing. I don't know how to reopen it.

Like I said, it took me a year to adapt to streaming and I'm glad I did it, but I CHOSE to change, and it still reduced me to tears of angry frustration more than once. Ergo, I would absolutely NOT force that on somebody my age or older. My neighbor is 78. She has cable on a smart tv. If the input accidentally changes or the router resets, I have to go over and reset her TV to "find" her cable service, because even with the familiar cable, she doesn't understand how to operate a smart TV.

I light of this, just the IDEA of inflicting streaming TV and cellphones on an 88 year old sounds incredibly cruel, cold, totally clueless, and frankly, stupid.
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I took use Tracphone and you do not have to pay $35 monthly for unlimitedcalling. They have plans for from $25 and up for a certain amount of minutes. You must buy every 60days and minutes roll over. I use my phone very little because I have a landline. I buy for the year 750 minutes. I get data and texting with that. I have about 6 more weeks for my year and still have minutes. I have had to add data and text time but thats only about $10 each for another gig or 1000 texts. Cost me about 150 a year. Thats about 12.50 a month. You can set up an acct and see when you need to add services when needed.
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BCjake Oct 3, 2025
My dad has tracfone. Problem. He takes it with him when the leave the house, phone in pocket and even on high volume he cant hear it so basically its useless
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Nope, don't do it unless you want to be their on-call 24/7 tech support. They cannot adapt to the new tech. My 96-yr old Mom pays $265 p/mo for her crappy cabel channels and it drive me nuts, but she can barely manage a new remote. Do not change their tech unless you want to give yourself a big fat headache of your own making.

I bought my Mom a RAZ Mobility phone where I control all her contacts and it has big pictures for them. I bought the phone outright ($390 at the time) and she's on our Verizon plan at $10 p/mo for her line. No data, no internet, no texting, no camera. Lots of control for the caregiver, though. I don't know how much a landline costs anymore but I pretended her handheld phone broke, removed it and never replaced it. She mostly used a flip phone, and when that broke I got her the Raz, which looks like a smartphone and was easier for her to see, hear and handle.
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First get them a very basic phone and phone plan and see how that goes, I'm pretty sure that it won't take long for you to realize they can't make the switch.
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You cannot "convince" anyone to do anything they don't wish to do. Assuming you have already explained your willingness to teach and to get installed this program you are suggesting, that's about the size of it. Save yourself a whole lot of angst by accepting you aren't in charge of their choices, and be GLAD of not being yet in charge; I've been there, and "in charge" is no fun.
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I have mentioned removing the phone to my mother. She cannot remember how to make a call nor answer but it seems to be a comfort to her to have it so it is a battle I choose not to fight. I just went with a cheap phone and a very basic plan for $25 /month.
We hate to see our parents “wasting” money but I think as long as they can keep what gives them peace and they can afford it, let them have it.
What if you suggested changing up the plans? If they only watch a few shows maybe reduce the subscription or get a simpler phone plan. Might make it cheaper but still keeping the systems they know.
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I taught my mom how to use the internet when she was 88 years old. A few years later she developed dementia and completely forgot how to use it constantly calling me about problems she was having. In time she would use the remote to answer the phone & forget how to use the toaster oven.

If they can afford it let them be and enjoy it while they still can
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BCjake, do not give up the landline. If your parents have an emergency, such as a stroke and cannot talk, when calling 911 the dispatcher automatically has their home address on the screen. The dispatchers are trained to know if the call is from a stroke victim, or another emergency where one has trouble taking.


One thing to remember, with a landline there is no need to charge the phone if the phone itself is an attached landline. My Dad had landline portable phone but he started to forget to put the phone back in the cradle to charge. And when the power goes out, if the phone is not bundled with the internet, the phone would still work.


Learning today's new technology has been a challenge. Back in the 1990's I could master any software program and taught others how to use it, and my Dad was still writing Code when he was 75 years old, onto floppy discs.


Getting older is stressful enough without being forced to learn new technology. I am pushing 80 years old, yet, I am bewildered by how to use the cellphone as the software doesn't make sense. The old KISS Theory was tossed out the window. Gone are the days of plug-and-play for TV's, etc.
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JoAnn29 Oct 5, 2025
Those portable phones do not work if the electric goes out. Mine don't. The main phone is plugged into the wall so I have my Voicemail and caller ID. I have a cheap phone with with the handset and no xtras. This one works when the electric is out.
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My late boyfriend did not have a computer or even a smartphone, calling the Internet just an option. All he had was a government TV antenna, radio and AT&T flip phone. Al would just not change with upgrading himself and died from isolation and poor health living alone.
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Depends on whether you are in the house with them and if you want to be the channel turner. Mom is 83. I originally lived 300 miles away. I have the same tv models and would give tutorials on my weekend visits. Eventually, I moved in with her. I'm now her tech support. We determined what channels she actually watches. I placed her on a lower tier plan. She had already upgraded to a new HDTV and 3 years later still has issues with the channels. We reviewed how to change channels weekly. Also, I changed her land line to OOMA, who charges less than $10 a month. I upgraded her phone to a Moto with big pictures on the home screen so dialing was easier for her. I changed her to an $15 unlimited cell phone olan. I only made these changes once I was under the same roof. If you live elsewhere, and if they can afford it, might be better to keep them on the systems they're comfortable with.
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BCjake: Perhaps they cannot learn new technology.
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A landline is a back up safety feature for when power goes out. Many states also require the old style copper landlines to be the utilities first restored in case of a disaster. Many of us keep landlines for that reason. AT&T has put out a notice that no new landlines will be put in after Oct 15, 2025 so don't be in too big a hurry to get rid of one. There are also some upsides to cable, belieive it or not.
I agree the landline and cable are both frightfully expensive; I have both myself.
Modernizing and saving money are not everyone's priorities.
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My Mom at 88 has spectrum -you know 7000 channels but each repeated 4 times! Difference is she does not have internet and wouldn’t know what to do with any of it anyway. She’s content and knows what channel numbers she likes best. She is confident and comfortable with what she has. anything new like streaming would be way too much to learn now. So I look at it this way… Mom is happy and can control the tv by herself without any difficulties. So she spends $200/month. she’s happy. she’s comfortable. My siblings complain because they see money wasted… their inheritance wasted… but it’s not wasted if Mom is happily independent and ok. God bless.
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If they have spectrum there is a package you can choose with I think 30 channels. Which channels do they watch most often? Landline phone is a minimal expense. They also have senior citizen big button remotes. And I could be mistaken but if you ask they might give senior discounts. Trim the package down but let them keep it. If it makes them happy.
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You have to pick your battles. If you are paying for it, let them know you are making the switch. If they are paying you may have to wait till they are deemed by a doctor as unable to make their own financial decisions. Who has POA?
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