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My mom needs care in her home and cannot live by herself anymore. She has fallen twice in the last year, first suffering a tailbone fracture and now a hip fracture. She’s currently still in the hospital, terrorizing everyone around her with her demands and rudeness.


She has always been a very difficult, demanding person who needs to be in charge of everything. The hospital has now had enough of her behavior and wants to send her home. We have lined up a home health service that provides 24-hour care, but she refuses to allow a live-in caregiver. She also refuses to go into a nursing home or assisted living facility.


She is constantly complaining about everything and everyone and accuses us all of not caring for her. I am at my wits end, because ALL we do is try to make it possible for her to return to her own home and stay there, which is what she always said she wanted.


There is no way to talk to her rationally. All she does is throw accusations and needs complaints at us every chance she gets. I am mentally exhausted and dread every day, wondering what new drama I will have to deal with next. All we all want is for her to be safe and get the care she needs.

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You can not convince her. And you don't need to. You say there is no way to talk to her rationally. So, why are you still trying? And exhausting yourself?
Of course you want her to be safe. But, she is a grown woman, and one who is used to making demands and is used to being in charge.
Let her take charge of her own needs. It is not your burden to try and make her do something she doesn't want to do.
Back off a little. Back off a lot. Yes, as you fear, you will probably get a phone call with some new drama, but you don't have to deal with it. You do not have to prove to her that you care. You can demonstrate that you care, and when rebuffed, let her think what she may. You can not control what another person does, or what another person thinks, or how they feel about you.
Here's a tip: Limit phone calls from her. You can block, or simply not answer, and let her calls go to voicemail, then call at a time that is suitable for you.
You already know her behavior well. It's not going to change now.

Unfortunately, with stubborn people such as this, who insist they can live independently, and insist on having no help, unless they call and whine with some dramatic story, you will have to leave her alone, and let her fail. Yes, that means she will possibly fall and fracture something again. You will get a phone call when she is being transported to the ER.
As much as you want to prevent that, and you want her taken care of, if she refuses, you can not make that decision for her, unless she has appointed you as POA, and she loses her capacity to make her own decisions.
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The reality is, the person in need of care does not get to call the shots.
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Your mother sounds impossible to deal with. You’ve gotten some great advice.

My MIL (who wasn’t as difficult as what you describe, she died of COPD) fired several home health aides earlier on for truly absurd things like cutting the sandwiches “wrong” and making the bed “wrong.” She was also obsessed that they were stealing from her. Then she got too sick to get from bed to bedside commode on her own and declared the next and last aide just great. She knew the only alternative was residential care.

My own mom has also fired a few aides for making noises “creeping down the hall” early in the morning to use the bathroom, or leaving a hair in the sink, or refusing to do things like scrub mold out of her washing machine, or weed the gravel driveway —which are definitely not part of regular aide duties. Or another one she called an “animal” because she slightly rearranged some Knick knacks after dusting a table. It really bothers me.

I know of a couple of cases where elderly people couldn’t deal with aides in their own home but became cooperative in assisted living.

good luck detaching!! I wish you peace.
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GSDlover Jul 3, 2025
Yikes! Wonder what it is with the stealing obsession? My mother has it too at the SNF, but she accused my husband of it two years ago when he set up my parents on line account directly to their banking. They kept losing credit card and money, keys, cars, he did them a huge favor. She’s been doing it at the SNF accusing the staff of stealing her clothes and makeup. What is this?
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How difficult to deal with a controlling mother. Do you have access to a specialist in listening emphatically to her? This may sound crazy but she is definitely dealing or refusing to deal with the realities of aging. There are specialist who focus on dealing with difficult seniors but the challenge is finding someone. Check with Aging and Disability in your area or a geriatric manager to help you work through this.
AND most of all how do you care for yourself? This isn't easy when caught in a parent trap. As a daughter you want to honor and respect your mother but it doesn't mean you don't care for yourself. In fact, it's imperative you do. Who else will?
My therapist told me, "I am not responsible for other responses, emotions or choices. I have agency and they have agency."
May you find peace in the midst of a difficult situation.
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I am so sorry you are dealing with this. One person can rarely provide 24 hour care to a difficult person, no matter how much you pay them and even if the person is relatively compliant. It needs to be shared (maybe 3 people). Are there other options? You need to put yourself first.
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Ask her doctor to evaluate her for mental competency. If she is deemed mentally competent, then she gets to decide on how she wants to live. If she is mentally incompetent, then you get to decide on the caregiving option she needs after hospitalization. She most likely needs some medication to help her to relax. Her agitation is making it hard on everybody around her and will make it difficult for anybody to meet her needs.
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waytomisery Jul 2, 2025
I agree .

Good luck with the medications though .
The narcissists in my family refused them in assisted living. They said there was nothing wrong with them. They said everyone else is the problem.
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Making your mother happy is not your job.

If she's a competent adult and has had a lifetime to prepare for old age, I'd take three giant steps back from this situation. Take a vacation, develop a herniated disc or a contagious disease that renders you unable to enable her.

Let the social workers and staff at the hospital deal with her and present her with her choices.

If she insists on going home, the consequences are HERS to deal with, not yours.
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waytomisery Jul 2, 2025
I agree .
Just went through this scenario with MIL 3 months ago. She was parent number 4 , we learned to step back more .
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You don’t convince her . She won’t listen. She needs 24/7 care in a facility.

She will just fire any in home caregivers , or not let them in . BTDT with more than one parent. Don’t waste your time with homecare .
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Maybe ask SW or dr to talk to her and refuse to talk any further about it.
Either/or solution, sometimes two choices for stubborn people work best. Choose A or B plan, there is no other option!
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Rheingirl: Your mother should be sent to an SNF from the hospital.
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I think you should insist she goes to subacute rehab, skilled nursing rehabilitation for 5-7 days to get more therapy. It may open her eyes that this option exists and also as a long term solution and it’s real. She may/ likely just continue to complain and waste the time and they will surely be eager to discharge her if she doesn’t participate or doesn’t progress. Just one option to show you are done and not bluffing and other options exist. It may help her modify her behavior to be more cooperative with care. There are pros and cons about live in vs 24/7 care with rotating caregivers. Be sure to read about it on this site. Maybe try to find a couple of really good, experienced local caregivers who can tag team her most hours but maybe not completely 24/7 and a few hours weekly from you and your family, if able.
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hum. I am in the same boat.
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Nothing gets a senior a one-way ticket to a nursing home faster than being stubborn. I have told more stubborn elders this than I can even count.

So, you and your mother's doctor need to level with her plainly that she has two choices.

1) She cuts the crap and knocks off the asinine stubbornness and bad behavior to start with. Then she makes it work with live-in caregivers so she can remain in her own home which is what she wants.

-OR-

2) She continues with the false accusations towards everyone, the constant complaining, and the verbal abuse and she will be discharged directly to a nursing home where she will live out the remainder of her life. You will not be taking her in, nor will you or any other family member be moving in with her.

Make your speech plain with her and her doctor should as well. If she will not comply, she goes to a nursing home.

Unfortunately too many seniors are like your mother and they end up learning the hard way and get put into LTC.
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PeggySue2020 Jul 2, 2025
Or more likely, Option C whereas she keeps showtiming effectively such that the cops or aps don’t remove her and take control. There are literal square miles of blocks in San Fran where seniors in wheelchairs and walkers are right out there with bent over fent addicts. With new Medicaid cuts in view, the stubborn senior daily faces the fact that no one WILL help them if they don’t take the help and any lifestyle restrictions that come with it.
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How do you convince her? You don’t. You can’t. You already know that. And unless she has legally given you power of attorney AND been declared legally incompetent you can’t do anything against her wishes.

So STOP. She’s not going to all of a sudden start acting right after a lifetime of stubborn, self centered nastiness. You didn’t cause this, you can’t cure it and you can’t control it. We get it, she’s making bad choices. She’s allowed.

Change your focus from how can you get her to do what you want to how can you learn to accept that you can’t.
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It depends upon how strong you can be.

If she is doing the things that you say that she is doing, an at-home caregiver will not stay around. You will be forced into overseeing the caregiver, being judge between Mom and the caregiver, and filling in for the caregivers when they don't show up. In my case, after doing that for 2 years, this method was more costly than putting her in an assisted living or memory care facility, especially after taxes were included in the cost.

I can understand why she doesn't want an in-home caregiver in her house. She loses independence, someone will always be watching. She will always fear that they are "stealing" something, whether it is electricity, food, or something else, plus the habits while they are there, e.g. the smell of food cooking, what they ate, opening/closing of the fridge, the use of TV or internet, etc. will give her just more reasons to get rid of the caregiver and subsequently, crisis management for you.

That basically means moving her somewhere else, or letting her go home and letting her fire the caregiver(s) and not replacing the caregiver.

If you are set on having the in-home caregiver, sit with her and ask her about her fears of having an in-home caregiver. Take everyone of her fears seriously and try to resolve it (e.g. jewelry with you for safekeeping, etc.) Think about what is important to her (in my Mom's case it was food) and start touring places that provide exceptional service in that area. Also, I have found it helps if I validate and repeat what concerns I've heard. It tells her that you actually heard her complaint, and that you are trying to figure out how to take action on it (whether you are or not). If she is the type of person who "keeps up with the Jones", point out all the people she may or may not know, who have gone to a particular facility. Be warned: the facility she likes might not be the facility that you would like her to go to....however, go with what she would like.

While she is at-home, introduce her to other social activities, e.g. senior day care, gym class for older adults, etc. That way, she won't overthink the negative of her situation. Yes, she will grumble and find negative, however, find the humor in everything she says and laugh with her at her adventures.

If you do the at-home caregiving, the real goal is to make her comfortable and confident enough that she will consider going to assisted living or memory care willingly....

If and when your Mom decides that moving in a facility might be an okay situation, have her tour some with you and have her tell you what she does or does not like. Again, listen intently. Let her true self show at the tours as it is an interview for both sides to see if there is a match.

Best of luck to you. There are so many parts of the journey that are hard. However, this is as much of a growth opportunity for you, as it is for her. Hang in there ((HUGS))

P.S One of the biggest fears of going to a facility is the fact that they anticipate that they are being dumped there and forgotten by all family. Should she go to a facility, ensure that you tell her each time when you will be back, what is going on in your life that will prevent you from seeing her, etc. This might seem like a huge headache to you, however, I speak from experience....it sure is better than the alternative of crisis management when the in-home caregivers don't show up.
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BurntCaregiver Jul 2, 2025
Or The OP can keep it simple and put it plainly to her mother the same way I put it to mine.

Either make it work with homecare or you go to a nursing home.

She makes it work with homecare.
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Why do you believe any hired caregiver would put up with being terrorized by a rude, demanding person? It exhausts you, and you have family attachment to her, a person with no connection would surely quit in no time. Mom will not listen to reason or your begging her to accept care, she’s not mentally capable of it. The choices here are to move her, against her stated wishes, to a facility where a whole team can deal with her behavior, or she goes home minus any help, even yours, until an event happens that forces change. Of course we all want to stay in our homes. There come times it isn’t feasible, and trying to appease instead of facing truth doesn’t change the reality.
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BurntCaregiver Jul 2, 2025
@Daughter1930

It might work. I've had care clients who were nice as pie to me but were abusive, nasty, and cruel to their families.

The mother may very well get along with her caregivers if she knows that the alternative is she goes to a nursing home.
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I wouldn't intervene for someone irrational, rude, argumentative, uncooperative. She's lived her life that way and I as an RN lifelong pretty much learned that we die as we lived. She will likely die rude and uncooperative, as well.

Why waste your time. Be certain you do not take on POA or guardianship, let her hire in help. Do not enable her bad decisions by helping her. Give her the phone number to APS and let her see how far she gets in refusing their help.

Eventually hospitals Social Workers will intervene and will perhaps enable state guardianship and placement. If she has the wherewithall to out-argue the state, perhaps she can teach classes in it.

I don't mean to suggest she isn't a problem. She is. But I would certainly go to great lengths to see that she isn't MY problem. I was POA and Trustee of Trust for the most cooperative and loving man in the world; it's still a hard job. And with someone uncooperative it's impossible.
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You say that all you want is for your mom to be safe and get the care she needs, yet you want to send her home? Really???
It's time now to take off your rose colored glasses and realize that your mom no longer is safe at home and needs to be placed in the appropriate facility whether she likes it or not, as it's no longer about what she likes, but rather what is best for her.
So call the hospital social worker right now and let them know that your mom is an "unsafe discharge" and there is no one at home to care for her and that she needs to be placed.
And please don't fall for the lies that the social worker will try and tell you about all that they can do for your mom at home, but instead keep saying unsafe discharge, until they do their job and get mom placed.
I wish you well in standing strong and doing what you know in your heart of hearts is the right thing for your mom.
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No, boo, she would need 3 in home caregivers as they would each take an 8 hour shift.

you need to say she is an UNSAFE discharge and not let them send her home
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Why is mom not being sent from the hospital to a SNF for rehab?? I would insist on it, so she can gain better mobility thru PT and OT before she returns home. Plus, if she does not regain mobility, she can stay in the long term section of the SNF! Especially if she refuses in home caregivers and needs them....the rehab will not release her to go back home! So that's one way to get her the help she needs.

Are you her POA and does mom have dementia? Because if the answer is yes to both, you can make decisions FOR her. And if she hasn't been given a cognitive evaluation, she needs one stat.

Best of luck to you.
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