Found my Dad sleeping on the floor when we came to see him at the extended care home. Is this ok?

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Thanks for pointing out the fact that it is disrespectful to our aging to allow sleeping on a floor in a public place. I recall when my siblings and I were very young - one of the first things to NOT do in public areas was lay on the floor. If it's unsafe and unsanitary for little ones, it applies to elderly as well. Both are vulnerable and depend upon the rest of us to protect them when possible.

I just feel it important to point out to all those giving stories to justify an elderly sleeping on the floor because elderly do these kinds of things- your missing the biggest factor- this is a PUBLIC facility frequented by unknown persons- germs that are deadly are of concern- even pseudomonus type of bacteria that can be picked up from animal feces on the bottom of shoes- super bugs. I don't care if you want an elderly parent to sleep on your floor- but a public place where many people from all walks of life come into- even in private rooms you have staff. Its an uncontrolled environment and if they allow this- it so speaks volumes of their over all disrespect of aging humans.

NO, IT'S NOT OKAY!!!! He SHOULDN'T have been in the floor 2 begin with!! WHY would he be in the floor???? You NEED 2 speak with the administrator&file a complaint!

My husband has dementia...he is like a kid..he gets into mischief....I still try to treat him like a MAN..to help with chores, wash dished and do laundry..and keep things NORMAL...but he will HIDE clothes...he will use only 1 inch of water in the sink ..if I say something he will let the water run and over flow on the floor...when we work outside...I now use a mixture of salt, vinegar and soap and water for weeds..so he cannot hurt himself with poisons...and this does KILL the weeds , I cut grass and point out to HIM where I need the weed killer...and I will see him spraying the flowers..I tell him..this is your property to..you own it..we worked hard to grow peonies..you shouldn't spay them..he said I DID N"T...I say I saw you...he said you are seeing things...I said tomorrow when they are withering..even GOD will see you are lying..I ask why do you want to Hurt the house you own and live in and the property...he said cause I am hot and tired and I don't want to work...and he went out to the porch swing hooked to the oak tree and went as far back as he could and let her go...and he sat on the swing and played like an 8 year old....this is only a lil of what I go threw...

BIG red flag....they are a lazy facility. One who has worked in both in home and NH....no resident should ever be left on the floor for any reason. Break down of society is hitting ever where. Unless they have there own chair on wheels or otherwise it is a health concern by passing flu, colds, pink eye etc. How long has this facility been under current ownership and management? If u r on fb ask your friend network what they may have heard of the NH. Ask other people that r in ur position...most that care change facilities at least once to another. If rest is needed their old bones should be made comfortable by napping in their beds....but as u can imagine this takes time and effort. Pay attention to how clean they are being kept and how often their Depends are being changed...bed sores, lesions and bruises. This can lead to a multitude of issues. HYDRATRION...a biggie...more residence go to the hospital because of this and can lead to death then any other reason. Your father should have clean fresh water or juice available to him at ALL times. Most times medication dries out the body and should be encouraged to drink. You may want to consider one on one care back in his home with ur mom. It isn't as expensive as one my think and could be more economical then the monthly NH bill. There are a lot of freelance CNA's and healthcare workers that love one on one work. Angie's List, local paper ads including your own, ask friends and neighbors, local homecare services, and online resources. A NH may not be for your family. Also your state my provide additional help depending on assets and income. They can provide help as well with a day or two in a daycare facility to get them out and about. Bottom line...If you are already questioning the capability of what is occurring in such a short time....BIG RED FLAG.

I'm thinking of a great uncle who chose to sleep on the floor when company came and there weren't enough beds. Perhaps he wanted to be near where there were people nearby and he wouldn't feel lonely. After all, you said he'd only been there a short time. Just a thought.

Whether or not the floor has thick cushioned carpet or a folding foam bed, sleeping on the floor is not an option. In our facility, we make sure residents are comfortable sleeping (at night on bed) or napping in their respective room or in common areas (especially, while watching TV). Move him out of the present care facility into another one with a policy of not allowing residents to sleep on the floor.

My dad loved to nap on the carpeted floor of his bedroom at home and as a teen I frequently slept on the floor in my room by choice (although my hubby says it was because my bed was acting as my closet). Maybe your dad simply likes sleeping on the floor. Maybe his bed isn't that comfortable.

Unsanitary conditions aside (as well as potential safety issues), maybe this is OK for him to do.

Ok this is wrong from all aspects..I can understand the couch, chairs, etc..but the floor? Ah no..sorry I used to see that when working and usually it was due to their meds suddenly kicking in..but no not all right..you have to say something to the staff,the administrator..now if he laid down and refused to move, that is another story..but no not all right..plus what disturbs me more is the staff not doing something about it..it is wrong from all levels..please say something..don't be hesitant.. take care

I am worried that the staff thinks an elder laying on a hard, unsanitary floor is normal. No it isn't desirable and it is a long way from him sleeping in a recliner for a nap to sleeping on the floor. It sounds like they want him in an open area where they can "watch him" from a nursing station without having to check on him in his room etc.
I would keep an eye on the level of his care, I suspect this is not a great nursing home.

An "extended care home" is NOT a nursing facility. It is a private home that takes in boarders basically, but there are regulated by rules of the State Board of Care Homes. Report this incident to them. AND there should have been personnel to check his temperature and it is NEVER a good idea to lie on a floor unless you know it is sterile.

shoulda checked his temperature. its always coolest at floor level and for everyones information , if your ever burning up with fever lie on your back on a tile or concrete floor. itll bring it down in minutes.

I agree 100%. A license residential facility should never allow this to occur to any of their clients. This is totally inappropriate.

If I found my mother sleeping on the floor I would ask immediately for a full explanation. Did you do that? What were you told?

Was Dad in his own room?

The State Ombudsman can help also. They are client representatives when things are not ok. They should know their way around the system. Usually listed in the State listing.

I have never, ever heard of a NH letting a resident sleep on a floor - and I don't think your state's regulatory agency would approve of it, either. Someone needs to be checking out that place, ASAP.

Say something. Don't let this go. My father was allowed to "go missing" from the NH because he was at a local dialysis center, and his blood pressure dropped, which required hospitalization. Because the dialysis center thought the NH would call us, and the NH thought the dialysis center would call us, the end result was NO ONE called us to tell us my dad was hospitalized. We learned of his hospitalization when we called to check on him and were told he wasn't there, and they didn't know where he was, because he never returned from dialysis the day before. Important information that should have been relayed to the hospital by a family member was not, because we weren't told he was hospitalized. Because of his health issues, he could have died, and we wouldn't have known until the hospital called us to ask us to pick up his body. (In fact, he died 2 months later, so I'm not kidding - that was a very real possibility.) The NH administrator was extremely upset and embarrassed that this had happened, and re-wrote their facility's policies to ensure that THEY always contact the resident's family and don't rely on anyone else to do it, so they know that they aren't the ones dropping the ball.

I would be upset too, and you have every right to question why he was on the floor. It not only is the most filthy place to be, but for no one to have noticed him there is suspect. Get answers or find another facility.

Well, if the PLACE makes those decisions, then I'd start looking for another facility to place my Dad - BUT, @birklake, DID you ask your Dad about this???

It's not ok with me. I think it's up to you to decide if it is ok with you or not. Who makes these decisions? You or the place. If the place thinks it's them then I would seriously move to a new place. You need to be the one in charge - that's my thoughts.

This suggests the place is very understaffed. Contact the licensing authority and the local Area Agency on Aging. The letter needs to be cc'd to the administrator. It is not necessary to lay blame. Your letter puts everyone on notice there is a problem.

ifhe has a bad back. The floor is the best place for him. I have a bad back and sometimes I sleep ona hard surface.

Although people don't normally get sick from lying around on carpeting---and in fact is probably a form of immunization!---I don't think your dad needs that at his age. Carpets are filthy (especially in a public facility---eeeww) and no amount of vacuum cleaning can change that! If he is on vinyl or other hard surface, it could cause problems with his joints or skin abrasion. (Elder skin tends to get very thin and delicate and easily cut or bruised.) Also, as has been pointed out, he is a large obstacle posing a danger to himself and others.

I appreciate that this facility is trying to let their patients get comfortable, but they cannot allow all the behavior that we enjoy in our own homes. Dad might roam around home in his underwear, but obviously that is a no-no in a public facility. Same thing with catnapping anywhere he takes a notion.

Ok, I revise my answer: NO IT'S NOT OK TO HAVE YOUR DAD SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't care WHAT kind of carpeting they have!!! UGH!!!

Sleeping on a hard (cold?) floor could cause bursitis on pressure points not to mention the germs from other people's shoes, or even being stepped on! If you want to get the facility's attention , tell them they are a lawsuit waiting to happen (and you would hate to THAT happen!)!!

No, its not ok. Its not even excusable no matter the explanation. If I were in your shoes, I would call the County for an inspection of the facility. Its called a tripping hazard for other residents, its filthy because if all the crap tracked in on bottom of shoes, its laziness and disrespect of elderly- and a sign of a bigger problem with management. I see elderly who fall asleep in lounge chairs or couches which is fine- but the floor? Just by the very fact you are asking- you know this is so wrong. Would you allow dad to sleep on the floor at your home? Your answer is in your need to ask- no you wouldn't so look for another facility and call the county and file a complaint to protect other residents.

This does not feel or sound right to me. If my mom were found sleeping on the floor, I'd ask why no one guided her to a sofa, chair or her room. Floors are not clean,and I'd have serious doubts about a facility that allows this.

Was the floor a thick carpet area...soft and nice and clean...or a hard cold surface? sometimes a thick full carpet looks inviting..and small children love to lay on the floor and watch Tv..color..and dementia take all folks back in time..He could have gone back to child hood days...when being down on the floor watching Tv...took him to his youth...in his mind....I play with my grand kids...on the floor now and then..if it is carpeted...but it is hard to get back up...LOL..GOOD LUCK...there are so many things that go through the mind...even without dementia...My hubby likes to sleep too..and right now..he is tripping over the WATER USE...and wanting us to save on water..and was dishes in 1/2 inch of water in the sink..LOL...GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!

Someone is not doing their job. Go to the head of the facility where this happened.
This sounds like a place of where, housing elders, is common.

I don't like the floor idea, either. If they could provide a mattress then that would be okay. I do like that they'll let people choose if they want to nap, but this is a bit over the top. Talk with the social worker or administrator and discuss solutions.
Take care,
Carol