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I care for my husbands 98 yr old grandmother she has Alz, diabetes, bp problems, thyroid, just no name a few. The problem is that this poor woman has been pooping her brains out! Every time she eats she has to go and not just once! And she goes even in between eating! And when she goes you hear her moan and I ask her if she is in pain and she has said yes! The stool is most of the time like water with stuff in it and the smell is just deadly. Sometimes its a little thicker and looks pussy! And the color goes from a real dark green to a muddy green. I have told her daughter about this for some time and her daughter has DPOA. She has mentioned this to her doctor and he just seems to blow it off. I told them I think she needs a scoop to see what's going on! And he seems to think that that is a hard procedure to put her through! I understand that if they were to find something like cancer or something to the likes they really couldn't do anything about it but I think it would be good to know one way or another! At least this way if they find nothing maybe its the meds they have her on! I think this poor woman is suffering and they just don't care! She has lost weight and we have tried putting more fiber into her diet to see if that would help but she still going like she has been. He has her on meds for the diarrhea but it don't seem to really help. It might slow it down a little but the poor thing goes at least 5 times or more everyday! And at night she seems to leek this watery stool. Should I insist that they do this scoop or is this more cruel to do the scoop? And I'm afraid of her dehydrating because she's not a big drinker! She 's like a horse you can lead them to water but you can't make them drink! I'll take any and all advice!! thanks!

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if her doctor wont do anything about it , then i would take her to ER and explain it to them . shes crappin herself to death !

my dad had bacteria in his stool and it stunk so bad . dr said to call the family in cuz it was so bad that it got into his blood ssytem , but he bounce back and is alot better now .
it bothers u so much and it hurts her too , change diffrent dr or take her to ER . if u go to ER , PLACE HER STOOL SAMPLES IN SANDWHICH BAG SO THEY CAN TEST IT WHILE URE WAITIN IN THE ER .
better safe than sorry .
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bless your husbands heart for helping you out , he should anyway .
i hope and pray that she gets better cuz sounds like to me shes crappin herself to death . something is very wrong here .
husband needs to put his feet down and do some growling with his sister . get her fired if she doesnt try to get her better .
quack dr is noooo good ! poor old woman is suffering , plz just call 911 and have her ship to hospital asap . she is living in ur home and if something bad was to happen youre in deep trouble cuz ure the caregiver ! i wouldnt play with the fire ! i be callin 911 and get her to hospital . hell with dpoa ! they have no idea ! my bro is poa and sis is medical wise , but they leave it up to me cuz dad is with me and they trust my better judgemental , i dont want to get in trouble and i make sure dad is well taken care of . no guilt ..
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Yes, Debbie. What Linda said! I would take her to emergency for immediate attention. The poor thing is in terrible pain, and it is scary, too. She could have colitis or worse. A perforated colon would be a tragedy. Please don't wait any longer--DO WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT!!!
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HARDEBECK:

Way to go!

DEBB:

There has to be something up there, otherwise the body wouldn't be trying to flush it out so quickly. I'm not a doctor, but the only thing that comes to mind is a chronic viral infection.

Also, remember that doctors are like lawyers: they can be fired. In the meantime, take her somewhere else before she wastes away ... and get a copy of all mer medical papers from that quack.

Good luck my friend.

-- ED
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It may be c-dif has she been on any antibiotics in the last few months? Or it could be a side effect from her alz. Meds. You mentioned she has alz. Is she on ariceft or the like? The puss sounds more like an infection of some type. Do you go to the dr. With her? Can you call him and voice your concerns. I know he can't give you info but sometims they will listen. It could be that the mother in law isn't relating the info correctly. In the mean time, yogurt is what they give to paitents in the nursing home with chronic diahreah or other diarreah problems. It puts good bacteria back into the bowls. Good job on straitining out the bp and sugar.
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I don't think they will give her a scope, it probably is to invasive if she is extremly frail. Anyways a I agree with someone who said to get a stool sample,this should be all they need to see if it is something they can fix. Treating that kind of diareah problem can be a very long process. I saw a woman who had it for many many months, they were treating her for it, it just took a long time to combat it. So it could be the meds they are giving her may be all they can do. You in the mean time could give her the yogurt to help on your end.
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Thanks you so much for all the advice. Going to get a stool sample to get it checked out. And I do think my MIL is not relaying what needs to be when I ask her to. For the longest time she wouldn't even admit she has Alz. Even her doctor kept saying she did but that she had senile dementia. Had to tell and show my MIL that senile dementia is an outdated term for Alz.! After a fall I had a nurse come to the house for a few weeks and during that time grandma was showing signs of sundowners. The nurse even called him to see if we could get something to help this woman sleep at night and for me to get some sleep too. And he seemed to not now what she was talking about! Mt MIL thinks this doctor has kept her alive all this time and she refuses to even see anyone else. To me she might have been a lot better off with someone else because they would have insisted she be on a better diet when she was first having Bp and sugar troubles. He even told me to my face she could eat whatever she wants. And when I did that her sugar and her BP would go through the roof and she would be sick. And my MIL said she fakes it, well when you take there BP and suger and the numbers are like they were you can't fake it. So I took it upon myself to change her diet, And like I said now its normal and she feels so much better. And if I have to go over my MIL head for this problem I will! I see her everyday 24/7 and my MIL sees her once a week if I'm lucky! Had her come and stay here for a couple of days while I was out of town seeing my son graduate from the army. Before I left I told her we were having troubles with her getting up all night. And I told her don't tell her she can't come out of her room because if she has to go to the bathroom she will do it in her room if you tell her she can't come out!. Well she must have told her to stay in there because when I got home she tells me she never got up at night! That right there surprised me or I thought you sleep like a log then, But I went into her room and all I could smell was urine! First place I looked was in her bed, but that was clean. Then I found it it in her drawers! She was peeing in her drawers! My MIL tells me that I do such a good job with her but seems to refuses to listen to anything I say. Just in turn tells me that the doctor says she healthier then him! ( Maybe thats the problem! lol) But I will keep doing what I feel is best for grandma and get a stool sample right to her doctor! I should put it on his desk so he can enjoy the wonderful smell of it all and then maybe he will listen too!!
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Another thing to consider about the dr. Sometimes when people are very elderly, and are basically terminal some dr. Just don't do a lot as far as bp and sugar things like that, cause they figure at this point diets and things wont make much of a difference in mortality and morbidity. Not saying I agree, but that's just the position they take. My grandfather for instance who my aunt cares for has outlived what they thought he would by at least 30 years. He has such severe heartroblems the only thing that has kept him going is an internal defib. His heart is in such a condition now that any min it could just stop on him. And has, thank god for a caring stranger who admitted cpr he wouldn't have made it through the holidays. (Of coarse he was angry at the stranger as he is a dnr) anyways they have found that he has sugar diabetes but the speacialist(who is accualy world renound speacialist) told him to just go easy on sugar but they arnt going to treat him for it or put him on insilin or sugar checks, cause he is 85 at this point it wont prolong anything or make it better so he is just to live life. This could be where they are with your elder. Although I know it is hard. We have this internal thing where we want to fix them. And denial is part of grieving the loved one with alz. Its strange but I have seen this. Its so hard on the children of the patient. And yes dr. Rarely even now diagnose someone indefinatly with alz. In nurseing paperwork they still will call ity a probable ad. Because it can't really be confirmed until after death. Senile dementia is also what some dr. Call it when they refer to vascular demintia. Wich is much like alz. But differnt. The diarreah thing is defanatly a comfort issue and should be treated. Stay strong its not easy caring fof someone. Especially if you are sharing it with someone else. Then again it sucks doing it alone too. I pray you get the guidence you need on this situation.
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Please ask the doctor for a diet review, medication review to search for her routine and ALLOVER THE COUNTER MEDS she takes that together or by each that might cause this issue. There are stool cultures that are easy to obtain that can be done without ANY DISCOMFORT to her. But is she is poohing 3-5 times a day with puss and cramping there is something going on which would bring discomfort to anyone and it maybe simple to find a solution without any type of surgical or complex diagnostic testing. Start with the simple and move to the complex. In the big picture diet changes(done with the help of licencsed Dietician) are easy to do. A pharmacist can do a medication review, usually at no charge, for medications that could cause or contribute to this, and lab work up to include a stool culture for c-dif and maybe a blood draw might give some clear clues to the cause. In the mean time do not give high fiber foods routinely, some people are allergic to wheat etc or too much can cause this. At 98 let's be slow to do complex procedures. But to do nothing is hard on her emotionally, her sleep is obviously interrupted with constant leaking pooh and her overall health and discomfort is affected. So gently try to ask for minimal small changes one at a time.

This a common issue but it can have a simple fix in many cases.
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I would also agree - get her to hospital, or take her to the doctor yourself. This is NOT ok.
I have also seen Vaalia yoghurt used for baterial type diarrhea. It has Lactobacillus rhamnosus GG or LGG® is a strain of L. rhamnosus in it that seems to kill off nasty bateria.
If you can get it, it can't hurt.
Good luck.
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